Tech coordinator plans to keep it simple, add some new touches
In an attempt to make his presentation applicable for all listeners, Neal Brown went over three plays he said were easy to install in any offense from wishbone to spread.
It’s not as if his playbook is Webster’s Dictionary thick to begin with. Speaking Saturday at the 28th annual West Texas Football Clinic, the new Texas Tech offensive coordinator said next year’s Red Raiders might need to know as few as a dozen plays — three or four runs and six to eight pass routes.
“We’re not trying to recreate the wheel,’’ Brown said later. “We’ll decorate those plays up by motioning and doing some things like that, but we’re going to be pretty simple in our approach.’’
As philosophies go, it’s not a radical departure from former Tech coach Mike Leach, who believed in drilling his players in a small package of plays and then running them with ruthless efficiency on fall Saturdays.
Brown and new Tech coach Tommy Tuberville say they’re smart enough not to do away with what worked so well for Leach. Brown told a roomful of coaches at the Holiday Inn Park Plaza that his four-point philosophy includes playing fast, being simple and detail oriented, throwing to set up the run and getting the football to playmakers in space.
Differences?
-The Raiders will use some empty-backfield formations, something Leach almost never did. Brown said he used empty sets three to five plays a game in his last job — offensive coordinator at Troy University, which finished third in the nation in total offense last season.
“It wasn’t a deal where we got in it and stayed in it a bunch, but we definitely will utilize it some,’’ he said.
-There might be plays in which the Raiders line up with four receivers bunched to one side, with running back Baron Batch stationed in a pod behind three wideouts.
-Tech quarterbacks will be allowed to switch from one play to another at the line of scrimmage, but won’t have the broad latitude that Leach gave them.
“Part of (the reason), he was here a long time, and those guys were on the same mind frame,’’ Brown said. “The guys we have at quarterback are smart, but I want to be careful about putting too much on them. I want them to be playing and not thinking. I don’t think either way’s wrong. There’s just different ways to do it.’’
In what Brown described as “the triple option,’’ Taylor Potts or Steven Sheffield would come to the line with three possibilities: Throw a quick screen to the three- or four-wide side; throw a slant, an out route or a fly pattern if there’s one-on-one coverage to the other side; or — if the linebackers empty out — run a quarterback draw.
“Checking’’ will consist of choosing between one run play and one or two pass plays or vice versa.
“They’re not going to have the whole playbook to check to,’’ Brown said. “It’ll be, ‘You can check from play A to play B, but not to all of them.’ ’’
-Leach seldom used motion, but Brown will incorporate it a little bit more.
“We won’t be a huge motion team either,’’ he said, “but we’ll have a wrinkle or two of motion each week. It’s not going to be a deal where we’ll motion every play.. I don’t believe in that either.’’
-In the Leach era, announcers and opposing coaches made frequent reference to the offensive line’s wide splits. Brown said the usual line splits at Troy were about 3 feet, the ones Tech has used at about 4 feet.
Now he guesses they’ll be somewhere in between.
“We’re going to be as wide as we can and still be able to run the zone,’’ he said, referring to the Raiders’ bread-and-butter rushing play.
Brown said he hasn’t decided yet how to send in plays. Leach flashed hand signals to the quarterback, who then referenced a playlist in his wristband.
Brown said he won’t use a system that Troy used at times in which all 11 offensive players looked to the
sideline at the line of scrimmage.
“We won’t do that here,’’ he said. “The skill guys may, but the O-line won’t.’’
The decision has been made to keep the same terminology Leach used, partly because Brown started his playing career at Kentucky when Leach was offensive coordinator there. Brown said the terminology he learned then and calls the Raiders made last year were identical.
“I feel like I’m in a time warp and I’m 17 years old again learning this offense,’’ he said. “I may have a flashback every once in a while where I call (a play) what I did at Troy, but we’re going to keep the same terminology.’’
Some of Brown’s offensive goals include running at least 75 plays per game — he said Troy twice reached 100-plus snaps last season — and taking care of the football. To the latter end, the last thing the Raiders will work each practice will be ball security. And there’ll be reminders beyond that.
“You’ll see ball-security signs in every one of our meeting rooms,’’ Brown said.
A little more than 500 coaches registered for the annual clinic. It concludes today with presentations by Brady High School coach Glen Jones at 9 a.m. and Bushland coach David Flowers at 10:30 a.m. They led their teams to state semifinal and state final appearances, respectively, in 2009.
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Cant wait til spring training starts and we get to see more of this new staff in action. But really cant wait to beat the hell out of Texas in September!!!!!
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Execution. If this guy can teach them how to execute the offense, they’ll be okay! The Air Raid is really a simple offense; success like everything else is determined by execution and the play callers ability to have a feel for what needs to be done in the course of the game. Leach had the benefit of being around this offense since its inception into college football and was very good at teaching the execution of the offense and had a feel for it, probably even better then the orginal architect of the offense Hal Mumme….We’ll see what happens!
Enough Said
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NB said all the right things. Those who read my post two days ago might recall my comment that “good offenses use the pass or run to set up the other….”. Apparently NB agrees. I like the QB draw and always wanted Leach to use it. 1-2 QB draws and 1-2 QB keepers on the zone read per game will be very helpful any several ways. Let’s all pray TT doesn’t tinker with the offense and slowly drift it to a SEC game. For those gimmicky folks out there. let’s keep the gimmick offense and add a gimick defense so we can win a gimmick National Championship.
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I am excited about the ‘COACHES’ we have now. Can’t wait to see what this team/coaching staff can do!!!
Wreck ‘Em Tech!
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Gimmick Offense= Top Three In Nation Every Year.
gimmmick, gimmik, gimmick, gimik, and more gimmick
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top three against 3rd tire teams
agaisnt good teams his offensive looked like peewee team
maybe we could move to conference USA then we can have number 3 offense
except for bowl game he could not score anymore than 20 points against any winning team
comparing troys offense is like comparing UT to Boise state
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I can just imagine Potts running that third option he mentioned – a quarterback draw.
He he.
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Did Craig James approve this?
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Boy, Ken’s a real positive guy isn’t he.
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Can the Spring game get here any quicker?
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I have bad news for Texas Tech fans, Gilbert Garrett is a much better quarterback than colt mccoy. The longhorn team has a lot of critical players returning and had little drama during the off season. Mack Brown is a proven coach and the administration over there is supportive of his abilities. My prediction: Texas 62 Tech 9. Just remember I told you so. There was probably more people at the Leach rally then will be at the games. Meyers still has to go.
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39-33
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Uh, Neal, ever heard of Wally Pipp? He was taken out one day and replaced by Lou Gehrig. That’s the situation you’re in.
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Only you’re the Wally Pipp.
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Uh, Bernie: Do you plan to come to Lubbock for the bi-annual “L” for your ‘Whorns?
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Uh, Mr. Williams: I note with interest that Leach stories have been discontinued by you and the entire staff at the AJ. So what did the Good ‘Ole ‘Boys pay for that?
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what a joke!!! this guy is a stooge too. so are all the former Team Leach supporters!!!
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yesterdays victory of utt is only the beginning, there will be four more beat downs by the Horns on the rude raiders. 3 in baseball and one in september, be content that at least you all will have a real rivarly game against Baylor for the cellar of the big 12
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Wow.. tshirt texas fans are dumb….
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Tuberville said he wants speed.
Potts is slower than Gerald Meyers’ mind. It will be interesting to see what happens at the QB.
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Over the years I have followed the Tech recruiting process on various recruiting sites and under Leach…he would get five or six 4 star players that put Tech as a Team of interest. This year under Tubberville I see that at this point…four 5 star players have Tech as a team of interest and seventeen 4 star players.
Seems a few people don’t want to give the new Tech coaches a chance. I am excited about Tech football. Keeping the wide open offense. Plus, adding a SEC style of defense…and the quality of players is improving.
This team barely lost to Texas who played in the National Championship game. With the improvements all the way around…how can you not get excited about Tech Football?
Just the though of a defense at Tech…with that offense…it is going to be a very fun year watching Tech Football. Not to mention what “The Riverboat Gambler” throws in.
The biggest changes will come not this year because Tubberville only had the three weeks to bring in the kids Leach recruited plus the few he got. The biggest change will come in 2011 after his first full recruiting class. The difference is already visible.
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Most encouraging words I’ve seen in an article in awhile. Like the fact that the offensive coach is relearning the terminology for the kids’ benefit. Also sounds like the starting QB has been decided by default.
Special teams Coach TT, leave the kickers alone and concentrate your coaching on blowing up return men..
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I am not a longhorn fan, i do, however, live in the real world where i know that things will go back to the pre-leach era at Texas Tech. I am not laughing at you guys for being hopeful, but the truth of the matter is that we have a guy that i think is not a very good coach despite of his track record. I simply dont think that he can do at Tech what he has done elsewhere. I am also still really disgusted with the ouster of Mike Leach. (and please dont call me a team leacher.) I think that supporting the school means that you are in agreement with the way meyers and company run the school, specifically the athletic department . I do not wish to agree to anything that they do, including the hiring of tuberville.
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The only thing that scares me about the new season is that Hance, Bailey & Myers will be sitting up in the luxury boxes with the James family.
NONE of them deserve to be anywhere but disgraced, broke, and unemployed.
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HouRedRaider, FYI
The only teams in the country with 4 5-star players this year were USC & FL. I’m not sure where you get your info, but Tech did not have any 5-star recruits & had a class comparable to those recruited through the years by the Leach Administration.
How the Tommy Group Does…………
Time Will Tell
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bernie,
Leach didn’t have much of a track record when he came to Tech as a head coach. So to dog Brown is one thing, but to question Tuberville’s record is assinine and uneducated.
Remove your head and along with that crip new UT cap you bought from Wal-Mart out of Mack Brown’s backside and think about that for a second.
Tuberville’s history command’s respect. In fact, he has just as many skins on the wall as Mack. He understands how to run a program and ran it successfully in the best conference in college football. Do you have any evidence that would lead us to believe he would field an unsuccessful program?
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What tuberville did is old news, this is the new world with different characters, and different rules to live in it. I repeat again, i am not a longhorn fan. I own absolutely nothing with their logo on it and never will. I am simply gonna say that the way football is played in the big 12 is just weirdly different than the sec, and really dont know why, just know that tuberville is not the man to get the team to the next level and come september, you will see that i told you so.
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Tuberville took an Auburn team that was 3 – 8 in 1998 to SEC West champs in his 2nd season. They started off 3 – 0 in his first season, including a rout of LSU in Baton Rouge, but lost a close game in Oxford against Ole Miss, who he coached the previous year, and lost his quarterback to the physical defense he had built at Ole Miss. From there on they struggled, but they scored a huge upset rout of Georgia in Athens after their quarterback healed, and finished up the season with a close loss to SEC champ Alabama and Shaun Alexander. Auburn – LSU games from 2003 – 2007 were some of the most hard hitting college football games ever played in the SEC. I’m talking brutal.
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Ole Miss had a kid die this year from respiratory ailments, I suspect that is exactly what Adam James will be whining about during spring practice.
Soon having these poor kids run as part of practice will be against the rules.
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Hey Bernie- go tell somebody who cares… evidently your type of guy must be bannished from the whorn websites since you seem to be on ours. Go do something positive like flushing your face down a toilet!
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The ole Miss kid was a no-body.
The elite James family members are Somebodies,- & don;t you forget it or they’ll call the regent on you.
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Bernie dude! Oh, I get it now… actually you are an Aggie!! An Aggie posing as a Whorn posing as a Red Raider. The point is that when the Ags fire Sherman in 2 or 3 yrs they wouldve gone after Tuberville. However, the yr “Y’ALL ” hired Sherman you wanted Coach T then but he wouldnt even interview with you. So there it is. And you and all your anti-establishmt Obama type whorny faggie aggies can just go take a hike. Get outta the Jones! You could get hurt
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Hey, Bern – dont take it seriously but take it seriously! I am going to the driving range now for lil exercise and I’m gonna pretend your sad face is on the 300 your sign. It should be fun!!! And not only will our Raiders kick your step-brother Whorns in the Jones this year but we are gonna hang about 60 on you Ags in front of all your skinny mammas and fat little girl friends this year. Hope it is your Homecoming fella! A weekend at Bernies!! Ha Ha!
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I think Craig James is looking for a job right now, maybe Tubberville could hire him as the respiratory ailments coach.
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Mr James better try sticking with the announcers booth since it is a good “acting” job. It will keep him busy as son Adam will be an MIA as #13 on our wide receiver depth chart.
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the football team sure could use some of the aggression that is demonstrated here against me, just someone that knows that the upcoming football season will be dismal for red raider fans. I am not an aggie either. This is also one reason that many people say that tech has the worst disciplined fans in the nation. go ahead an prove it some more.
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Hey Ken and all the rest of you moronic Leach sympathizers,
Please tell me what Leachs “gimmick” offense got you over the past 10 years? Umm lets see only a couple of wins over UT and OU, um lots of passing yards with no defense, no wait a south division title? no thats not it a win in the cotton bowl or BSC bowl? no we went .500 in pointless bowl games, it must be a conference championship right? I mean we had the air raid! nope didnt get that either! Well I guess its back to the good ol days since the last 10 years were filled with many championship trophies, go back to your basement and play in your pirate gear, how about giving the new coaching staff some credit for what they have done given the time they have had!
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bernie, you’re clueless. tech takes a close one in lubbock w/ a sr. team.
thx anyway jr.
WRECK’EM TECH!!!
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Ok this is what leach gave us 10 winning seasons more bowl games than any other TT coach in history
how many swc or big 12 titles have TT ever had
how many times have TT beat UT I believe we have lost much more than we have won
fact is we can not compete with UT in recuiting thus we need to look at other ways to win
the sorry fact is that leach gave TT more real winning seasons than anyother coach
I like the deffensive changes my only problem is why the hell did we get this off. Cordnator from a bottom of college football
again this guy only proven he can score against loseing programs We could of gone to some Texas highschools and gotten a better coach
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TimeWillTell,
Go back and reread HouRedRaiders remarks. He is talking about the 5 and 4 star players that are showing interest in us for this next year’s recruiting class, not the one that we just signed.
Bernie,
By your comments it is obvious you are a closet horn fan or closet team leacher. No one in their right mind would predict a ut victory over us of 62-9 unless they belong to one of the 2 camps. To say Garrett Gilbert is a better qb than Colt McCoy is the second idiotic point. He will probably be a better passer but his opponents will not have to game plan against his running ability like they did McCoy and ut has not scared anyone with their running game the last 2 years. Also, Mack Brown is not a great head coach but is a great recruiter and is great at hiring assistant coaches but he has millions of dollars to throw at assistants. If you gave Mike Leach the 5 and 4 star recruits that mb has had every year and gave mb the 3 and 2 star recruits that ml has had at TT then Tech would have been playing for national championships and mb would be coaching high school football.
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How will Adam fit in on the offense?
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Here is how Adam James fits in:
He will be the same lazy, talentless, entitled punk that his daddy raised.
Tubberville will not have the balls to sit him on the bench or run him off.
So look for him to be taking up space on the field, while real players sit on the bench.
Daddy James will still be looking for work, because any political appointment would mean suicide for the politician giving him a job, and there is no possibilty that he could be elected to anything.
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“Hey Ken and all the rest of you moronic Leach sympathizers
Please tell me what Leachs “gimmick” offense got you over the past 10 years? Umm lets see only a couple of wins over UT and OU, um lots of passing yards with no defense, no wait a south division title? no thats not it a win in the cotton bowl or BSC bowl? no we went .500 in pointless bowl games, it must be a conference championship right? I mean we had the air raid! nope didnt get that either! Well I guess its back to the good ol days since the last 10 years were filled with many championship trophies, go back to your basement and play in your pirate gear.
What did Leach do for TTU football?
How about the most wins/national recognition/highest attendance/and best graduation rate in 80 yrs of football at Tech.
Yah ur right, we were world beaters being held back by Leach
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By his own admission Tubberville is not going to do much coaching. The OC and DC will pretty much handle those tasks and Tubby will handle special teams. Head coaches by rule can’t due much recruiting, so the other coaches will handle that as well. So what will Tubby do, the rubber chicken circuit glad handing donors and alums.
So where are we:
OC – definite downgrade- MIke Leach was really the OC, but Neal Brown would be a dowgrade even from Lincoln Riley.
DC – this looks to be a upgrade, but hard to tell since this will be his first year in the position.
Recruiting – none of these guys know how to recruit in Texas yet.
Tech is returning a fair amount of talent, so unless the new crew really screws things up, we should be ok for one year.
Beyond that, well it is hard to look much beyond that with the Bozos that are running the school.
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Burnt Orange,
Let me see if I have this correct. You feel Tech is the bottom dwellers of the Big 12 and you are on Tech’ s site? Is the OrangeBloods.com site too good for you??? Are you really a longhorn or are you an Adam James fan that got his feelings hurt?
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Burnt orange, what are the texas players going to do , when texas goes the 5yrs to get a degree plan.
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to all team stooge haters: UT student/athletes take real courses in real degrees, no history of the color book or study of black and white cartoon comic books!!
HOOK “EM HORNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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bernie said:
I have bad news for Texas Tech fans, Gilbert Garrett is a much better quarterback than colt mccoy. The longhorn team has a lot of critical players returning and had little drama during the off season. Mack Brown is a proven coach and the administration over there is supportive of his abilities. My prediction: Texas 62 Tech 9. Just remember I told you so. There was probably more people at the Leach rally then will be at the games. Meyers still has to go.
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Yep, Bernie is still dead except when the music is playing. And the music is not playing.
What a total idiot
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burnt_orange said:
to all team stooge haters: UT student/athletes take real courses in real degrees, no history of the color book or study of black and white cartoon comic books!!
HOOK “EM HORNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Do they take any courses in english composition?
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yal beter stop make fun of me. im got a rite to be on yure site as much as you.
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I hope this OC knows his stuff. You better know what your doing when you empty the backfield in the Big12 with the likes of Nebraska, oU, and TU. As for the QB playing instead of thinking, Id rather have him thinking while he is playing. Dont screw with the O line splits. If it is not broke, dont fix it. Im keeping a close eye on the OC. I hope to be pleasantly surprised, but you never know. I hope he is old enough to coach against Big12 caliber Coaches.
Wreckem Texas Tech
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hes not old enough
his statement of emptying the backfield in the big 12 says worlds
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you know that when we run the “empty” set, its going to be a quick out, or a screen off at the sideline. not many can stand in the pocket without a back for too long. i agree that the o-line should not be messed with, i mean even the heisman trophy finalist SUH had a difficult time getting to sheffield (much easier for suh against texas, i might add). i do think our qb should be able to run the ball a little more, especially if we run an “empty set, and run the linebackers out. all tech fans know how much that has hurt us in the past, now its time we started using it. i dont think potts would be the ideal choice for a runner though, but harrell was absolutely terrible at running the ball (just goes to show you can have a great qb without him having great running skills). i also like the idea of keeping it simpler for the qb at the line. having a choice of a few plays instead of the entire playbook (albeit its always been quite thin) would greatly impact audibles. i dont think the qb’s this year had a problem with it, but making something simpler sure cant hurt. and for using motion, i think it will be a nice, welcome change. the only motion weve seen in the past few years has been the rb coming out of the backfield, or crossing the field to get to the sidelines for the quick screen. it was almost a dead give away when we used motion in the past.
now, for the trollers and ut fans, get out. we all know that if mike leach had even a decent amount of 4 star recruits coming to tech consistently, we could have been competing on a much higher level. mack brown is not a players coach, urban meyer is not a players coach, nick saban is not a players coach. they all coach their coordinators, who in turn coach the players so dont give us any of that junk about tuberville not coaching. i do think his first year out will be a little conservative(8-4, 9-3), but in years 2 and 3 for us to be really competing for BCS bowls, and more.
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We are having vedy vedy many Wal Mart Burned Orange T-Shirt wearers today writing.
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Apparently the people here are really dumb and cant read or just dont believe me, i am not a longhorn fan. I am not an aggie. I am not a tech fan. I am not a team leacher. I cant post my comments on any website that i care to, including this one. I asked that the tech fans posting here to prove to me how really classless they are and they dont disappoint. One guy even called me an idiot simply for telling the truth, next, they will be correcting my spelling.
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One guy up there wants me to flush my face down the toilet, How do you do that? Another one is running me out of Jones stadium with threats that i might get hurt. So just to lighten you anger a little, i will change my prediction to Texas 62 Tech 17. Tech will get 10 points during garbage time.
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Sorry, I didn’t know we got all excited when a recruit calls us a school of interest. That really means less then diddly squat.
There’s roughly 25 5 stars each year and places like Texas, USC, Fl, are probably called a school of interest of about 20 at this time during the recruiting processnad if lucky will end up w/ 3 or 4. Some recruits have as many as 20-25 schools on their list at this point and some maybe even more. One that I was closely associated with a couple of years ago had a list of nearly 70 at this point of the recruiting process.
Until you get at least a verbal from someone it is hardly worth mentioning and as we painfully know the verbals aren’t very solid either.
I like reading posts of how we should give the guy a chance and judge him on his record, etc., but in the same post we read about being a school of interest for recruits in 2011 or 2012… Let’s not judge Tommy on that either until he has some 5 stars on the dotted line….
Time Will Tell
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I just have to assume many of you have never been off of the caprock. If you had, there wouldn’t be questions about 4 and 5 star recruits. If coaches did NOT recruit at all and NEVER said a word to high school players….the best players would go to UT before TT. In the eyes of an 18 year old, where is the most fun, most desireable place to live…it’s simple..Austin.As far as a quality education..both schools are comparable. It’s simply the fact that Austin is a more desireable place than Lubbock.
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Anyone who knows anything about Tech football since they joined the old SWC, knows Leach transformed the program and brought some level of respect to it. Without him, I assure you Tech would have been a .400-.500 program with a bowl appearance every 4-6 years. To deny such is comlplete ignorance.
I believe TT and staff can sustain 7-5 seasons +/- one game. I’m not sure they can achieve and sustain 10-2 seasons +/- one game. I’m no longer as concearned with the offense scheme, but am very concearned with the change in o-lineman recruiting. It appears we will recruit head-on with UT, OU, LSU, NU, etc. for those shorter more compact run blocking o-lineman. This, I believe, is a mistake. It will cause a gradual drift to a run focus and reduced o-line splits. We nned to keep recruiting those tall, long armed, HS basketball playing o-lineman with good footwork.
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Outsider,
The painful truth is that places like Texas, Fl, USC…pick who they want first and what is left is for the rest. You have to beat them in other ways then the recruiting battle and it can be done……
Time Will Tell
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The mighty No. 1-ranked Longhorn baseball team just lost two of three from New Mexico.
Heehee
“sippers could have all junior high players are they would be ranked No. 1 in the first poll … polls are a joke.
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Anyone thinking that TTU can compete head-on in recruiting and playing the same type of FB with the Big Boys is living in LA_LA Land!
Enough Said
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Hey Benie, I don’t know what it is you pretend to be, I don’t think you know what you are but I do know a real miserable loser when I see one. Guns Up STAMF!!!
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Don’t take any wooden nickels!
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I’m looking forward to seeing this new staff in action, however, one problem I would like to see addressed is all the penalties. I hope these new guys will instill some discipline into this team to cut out the all the ridiculous personal foul penalties that have cost us hundreds of yards a game in field postion.
And, beat the hell outta Thug U!!!!
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I came by to thank you again for not taking Ruffin. We are very happy with him here. Judging by the posts it looks like almost 50% of you are happy with Tommy. Keep in mind he may just be there for a few more million dollar years before he retires. If he doesn’t abandon much of what you had going with Ruffin and Leach and the rest, you should have a pretty good season next year, but after that you could be in trouble.
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Man, OL Bernie is taking the heat. I notice not much news from the Leach 500. I wonder if he sent them all thank you notes? I doubt the stands will be empty, I doubt Texas will run over Tech, and I doubt some naysayers know much of anything about football ;-)
Tech Alum
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HouRedRaider,
I would like to know where you’re getting your info about 4 & 5 star recruits for 2011…Rivals does not have stars attached yet to the 2011 recruits…has 1 verbal commit to Tech a 5-9, 165 lb receiver from Lakeland, Fl,…He is listed as a Top 250 which means he could be a 3-star or a 4-star, or a 5-star once he’s rated. For the record, according to rivals the early verbal commits in the Big 12 are like this Texas 13, Ok 5, K-State 5, Missouri 4, Neb, 3, Ok St 3, Baylor 2, Tech 1,A&m 1, Colorado 1, Iowa st 0, Kansas 0
I know this stuff doesn’t mean much period, but HouRedRaider said something about 5 5stars and 17 4 stars that Tech has a chance to land & I would first wonder where he got his info and second state that it means even less then the early commits according to Rivals.
The only thing we have so far to judge the performance of Tommy Tuberville is a #41 recruiting class. That is the only concrete thing we have. I know some will say he only had a few weeks and I think that is valid to a point, but would also point out new coaches at USC and Tenn with even less time maintained Top 10 recruiting classes.
I have stated before and will again, I am going to give this staff a chance and do support Tech FB 100%, but I and I think others need to hold them accountable.
We also know at least on paper that Tech has a pretty good nucleus coming back for 2010….We should be able to have a pretty good season…If we don’t this falls on Tommy T and noone else. There is absolutely nothing wrong with any of us expecting Big things in 2010 and if it doesn’t happen we can and should be critical of a million dollar plus Major College FB Coach. That is the reality of taking a position he has taken.
That is not “hate” that is not being negative that is just the least any of us should expect!
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Enough Said,
I agree with our outlook this fall is great and I believe this will be our year to win the Big 12 South. I also agree that if we have failure that Tommy T should shoulder the blame. But I also believe that if we have success that Tommy T should get the credit. I think for all that happened with the Leach fiasco that we have come out of this better than we could have hoped.
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It is amazing how many tu fans like to blog with us TECH fans. I would go blog on their sites, but talking about who from their new squad will end up in jail or prison for (rape, theft, drugs, DUI, crashing into buildings..leaving the scene and getting away with it….you get the idea) gets boring. Which makes me wonder why they waste their time because butter teeth brown always let them find their way back. Great program you have their…orange puke.
Also to TECH fans…baby adam will get booed anytime he is on the field trying to play football…hopefully to the point where it gets so bad he will go hide in the same shed himself.
Tubby will not be ignorant enough to let adam go because he knows the brat is not worth the trouble to cause more ruckus with that POS james family.
Tubby’s recipe for success in the B12 is sound. As a TECH fan, I just hope the program hits the ground running.
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Raider4Ever,
I agree w/ you 100%! He came in under tough circumstances and if they have a good year, he should get all the credit. It has to go both ways….that is only fair!
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Time Will Tell,
I was refering to 2011 prospects. Read my post again. If you go to the recruiting sites there are those players who have put down Tech as a team of interest. Tech is actually one 5 star players favorites.
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I think the pokies should get Leach next. Although I know Poke is not a poky. I lived in Stillwater and most pokes thought Leach and the Air Raid was a joke. I guess your history of Running the Ball is over. Thomas, Sanders, Bell …..
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If I re-call OSU never beat Spike. Poke should be sad leech is gone, atleast you were .500 against him.
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HouRedRaider,
Upon your suggestion I went to the 2 major recruting websites and what I found was Tech on the list of 3 5-stars for 2011 as a team of interest and the one commit I found on both service was a 3-star receiver that committed on 12/12/09, so prior to Leach and since he is from FL there is certainly a risk of losing….
Of the 3 5-stars where Tech was listed 2 of them from Texas had every D-1 school from Texas except SMU listed and the other one from LA had a total of 9 schools listed including LSU, AL, Tx….so if we are given equal opportunity for all three our chances are 1-16, 1-15, 1-9, giving us a fair chance of landing 1, which would not be bad, (that of course is being an optimist) At any rate you did raise an interesting topic, but what TTU ends up getting only….
Time Will Tell
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OK tinkered with the offense in a similar way when Leach left there and it worked out pretty good for them. I think they won the National Championship the year after Leach came here. It’s crazy, but wouldn’t it be something if the same thing happened again.
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I wanted to mention in my last post…ECU was discredited a few weeks back when I posted as being not as good of FB program as the mighty Texas Tech. I would like to remind you that ECU beat TTU 40-27 back in the Bowl at the end of the 2000 season. I believe that was leach’s first year. Of course with the help of Ruffin, Mr Leach did build your team into a pretty powerful outfit before you let him go. Give Ruffin 2 or 3 years and I would like to see us go up against you boys again because I think we would be able to take you again in a few years. Lobby on your end and I’ll lobby on mine. I think it would be interesting
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The Meerkat Air Raid is for retards.
I really hope we don’t ever see it here in Lubbock.
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Hey ECU have fun with the spread, oh yes and Ruffin was part of Tech durning the Houston bowl. “Houston Bowl” one reason why leech is gone. Maybe Ruffin can get you guys another toilet bowl.
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Bleeding Red,
ECU 40 TTU 27. The only time we met. Schedule us again if you have the courage!
Ruffin ended up at the better school. We’re happy to have him, from the looks of things alot of your people aren’t happy with your new coach
Good Luck & again please schedule us again
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It would need to be a pre-conference game. Maybe we can schedule you guys instead of East Washington State JV. Have fun with Ruffin and his top 70th worst Defense in the country. Which is why he did not get the job. As for the T-shirt fans on this site, go find another team. I was a Raider when we sucked and will always be.
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Check out this podcast of Mike Leach interview from Key West:
http://wqam.com/podcast/Mike%20Leech%20with%20Big%20Dog%202-19.mp3
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Bleeding Red,
You don’t seem to understand…the only time we played you we beat you 40-27 in a Bowl Game. granted that was at the end of Leach’s first year before he was able to build the team up like he did, that’s why I say give us a couple of years with Ruffin and your new guy taking your program in the other direction and I think we will be ready to beat you.
You are very arrogant toward a team you have never defeated. Based on head-to-head competition we are superior!
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Don’t matter who is coaching, Texas will beat tceh! Mack Brown was 3-2 in Lubbock against the drunken pie rat, and 5-0 in Austin! The 2 losses were by a total of 10 points! Mack Brown’s win in 2004 in Lubbock was a 30 point victory over a team that scored 70 on Nebraska. So dream on if you think leech owned Texas in Lubbock. He never had so much as a 2 game winning streak in Lubbock against UT! HOOK ‘EM HORNS!
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Good interview with Leach, he is all over the place, but you always know he is talking straight and not just saying what he thinks you want to hear. I miss him already.
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ECU, you don’t get it. Tech is moving in the right direction. ECU is on it’s way down. You should have tried to keep SKIP. He was the best thing to ever happen to you guys. I hope you guys like your swiss cheese “D”, giving up on avg 450 yard a game.
I hope we don’t meet again, it will mean Tech is playing in the toilet bowl. I guess your coach can eat ours. Let’s hope Ruff makes it through the first year.
By the way, I see you are a member of Team Leech. Good luck with that..
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What book did Leach talk about. You know he’s always got a good story.
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Bleeding Red,
It sounds like you are afraid to play us. We’ll see where the programs are at in 2-3 years. We are glad to have Ruffin & you’ll find out how you do with a coach that is thinking of retirement. Maybe, he’ll have one of his kids ready to take over in a few years. That type of set-up has worked well for your BB program. Bring in washed up daddy to coach and turn the program over to one of his sons in a few years. Before long they’ll start calling you “Sucker U” for falling for these washed up coaches who sell you into thinking there going to turn you into something.
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ECU,
It would be fun to play you and even up the score. I liked Ruffin and I am happy for him and wish him well! There are no hard feelings on my part. It looks like it worked out good for him and us both.
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I really cant believe that there are this many angry fans in lubbock. I have an idea, why dont you meanies take that mad energy, grab some sort of road repairing tool and head for 34th street. That frightening amount of energy could be used for the betterment of our fine city rather than trying to beat me down to the ground with a blunt instrument and proceeding to kick the life out of me and then setting my carcass on fire. Somebody needs anger management, and fast before you blow something out your bunghole.
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Bernie! Cut it out!!
We know you are actually Brian the dog on Family Man. Get back in your own space !!
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The commit from florida is the brother of one of this years WR recruits we signed (he might play DB or WR) and is more highly regarded than the older brother we signed tis year.
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44-14 series lead over tceh! 8-2 vs. drunken pie rat! 4 National Championships in football compared to ZERO for tceh!HOOK ‘EM HORNS!
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Red Raiders will spank the Longhorns in Lubbock this year. No doubt about it.
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