Dallas lineman switches from Tech to Oklahoma State
Dallas Madison offensive lineman Javius Townsend, who committed to Texas Tech in early September, said he changed his pledge to Oklahoma State on Monday after a weekend campus visit.
Townsend said Tech’s recent coaching change and the departures of several staff members, including head coach Mike Leach and assistant Brian Mitchell, influenced his decision.
“I had a special relationship with every one of those coaches — coach (Matt) Moore, coach Mitchell and coach Leach,’’ Townsend said. “It wouldn’t be the same as it would if they were all still there.’’
Townsend, a 6-foot-4, 297-pound tackle, said the new staff had continued to recruit him, but he decided OSU suited him better.
“Oklahoma State coaches, over this short time, I formed a bond with them,’’ he said.
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Now there’s a loss. Part of the consequence of a coaching change.
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just more to come but i guess we can be happy with a 2 star linbacker thats great is it not
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Hmmm….
Didn’t we tell him we’re getting a much better coach than Leach? Where’s the salesman? Didn’t we tell him he’d get to play with baby james? Good job, Tech…
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I don’t see why this surprises anybody. i’m surprised anybody would want to come here to play.
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$100 says he get’s another defensive player in this guys place
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Maybe we should have told him that he gets to tackle baby james, oh but that would probably be considered abusive to allow such a prima donna to get tackled. Thanks Gerald and Kent for looking out for the best interest of Texas Tech – NOT. Tubervile won’t be any better than Steve Sloan, who played with Carlen’s players then left before his bad recruiting showed up.
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Tech will be fine people.
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let’s see, this guy doesn’t even know that coach moore is still at tech. sounds like a flake. besides, i’ve seen film on him andits not that big of a loss. he projects as a guard in college, an undersized guard at that.
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hey it just another player not coming here……………………..move on.
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Maybe Adam can play guard…….wait, he’ll be starting at wide out, i forgot.
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You cannot blame him or any of these kids. He is making a decision that will affect 5 years of his life.
Look at it from his football point of view: 1) Turnover at every Coaching Position at the tech program, except 1, 2) Unproven (at Tech) new group of Coaches, 3) Major Bad Publicity, 4) Fan base in turmoil, 5) Limited time to evaluate. Versus looking for a school that is stable, stand behinds and supports their coaches, coaches appear that they will be there in 5 years, no recent bad publicity or stigmas. (I am not focusing on OSU here, it could be any school). New facilities are great and all, but a 300 lb weight set is the same in lubbock as in every other city in the USA.
Personally, If I were a freshman or sophomore, I would consider transferring just to get away from this life long stigma that was created. For a football player that may mean losing a year of eligibility. And I hate to say it, I am a tech alum. Tech is a great school, however, the reality is there are lots of great schools that will not have the current stigma, especially for a football player. Why jump into this mess when you dont have too?
Before this debacle, my A&M friends had essentially stopped talking to me about football because they were embarassed. My UT friends were always cautious when the water cooler talk was about the Tech v UT game. Unfortunately, after this recent debacle, that is no longer the case.
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The dude got cold sweat when he saw some of the bigger and faster dudes commiting to Tech. He will have a much better chance to play at Okie Lite than start at Raiderland.
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don’t let the door hit you on the a** on the way out
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That would have to be a pretty big door!
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Rob you are such a whinny baby!! He aint comin cause he finally checked out our roster and other recruits that will play ahead of him for a long time. And, if Coach Gundy doesnt show more wins in bowls really fast with his new offense (even tho he aint got the athletes yet) the Okie Lite oil/wind billionaire of fame is gonna can his rear!!! The writing is on the wall at Okie State, so blah blah blah.
Dont know where you live or even if you actually graduated from Tech, but one things for sure:
YOU DONT BELONG SO BEAT IT WHIMP!!!
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The thing that is much more worrisome than these players turning away is the student body. How many parents are going to send their kids to a different school because of this stigma. What does this do to the student population. Fewer students translates to less money. Could be much more damaging than just to the team.
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so what. his loss. he’s just some guy.
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I think Tech needs to just cancel the football program for a year or two and just …”move on “
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Who gives a rats behind where all those wimps may want to go or not to go to school . And that includes all their “fat little girl friends”. Geeze!! I am sick of all the winnie babies on this site. Better not be sitting around me at the games being a cry-baby or we will kick you outta the Jones !! RaiderNation is for the long haul fans – WINNERS!!!
Losers!!! Get with the program or get out.
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Bennie ….bring on the name calling I can handle it. The reality of the situation is that Tech was a threat. Right now, though, Tech really doesnt know what it has. Everyone is speculating. You are free to belittle another school’s coach (only weakens your argument and makes the school look bad), the athletic prowess of a student athlete as compared to other members on the roster (only weakens your argument and makes the school look bad), or even me (I dont care…so its pointless). Coaches select kids to fit their system, he may not have fit in this one but i doubt that was the case. And to answer your question, I did graduate from tech… a couple of times, was even an employee at one time…Not that any of that matters in this discussion. What your really upset about is that you feel rejected…because this young man rejected Tech. Be positive, there is now one more spot open that this coach gets to fill into his system. The only problem that I see from coaches perspective ….is the limited time and opportunity for the coaches to play the recruiting game.
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If he does not want to get his education at Tech then it is best for him to be elsewhere. I have full confidence Tuberville. I am not worried about semicommitted, possible players jumping ship. (It happened with Leach as well.)
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Adam could always fill that guys slot?
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oh wait, Adam will be starting receiver…my bad.
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Bennie …Also, I am not trying to imply that Tech’s Football team will be any better or worse than it has been in the past. I was only pointing out, why would you…as potential football player… want to walk into a problem? Riddle me that. Tom T will have his opportunity to succeed or fail. If the Coach comes out this season and knocks it out of the park, then next year this will not matter as much, but if he fails it will linger. That is the reality of situation.
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I honestly wouldn’t be surprised to see some 3 and 4 year players quit.
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OK OK Rob – point made. You’re making me wanna cry , man! But if we lose a couple of recruits this yr no matter cause recruiting is won over a five yr period and not just one. We will be better to sit back and get the kids we REALLY need and want next year instead of taking a few more second teamers just for the numbers this yr. Besides, we can always go with a few jc boys if we want to and the right ones are there.
And, me, belittle coach Gundy? Man he is 40! So why pick on him? The Okie State writing is already on the wall for him….
Rejection? Oooooh… that’s a stinger! The way we like to handle rejection is when Colby Whitlock smacks a UT def lineman in the mouth so hard it knocks him 3 or 4 yards deep and then he tackles the running back for a safety! Rejection? Also as in Mike Crabtree catching a rocket throw spinning a dude out of his jock and nearly knocking a head gear of the other would be tackler! We all need a little rejection now and then to just stay focused…..
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Whitlock? Crabtree? hey! …those were a couple of guys who played for coach Leach, right? and those plays you described, those were when Coach Leach was here, right? Yeah, i remember them!…..jc? yeah i’ve been thinking the same…we’er going to be a junior college when this is all said and done
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You know it is a miserable existence. First, we have to attend this second rate junior college. Second, we’re never appreciated as people. I mean, I’m 21 and I deserve more than this.
Mike Leach is my hero. He’s the most amazing person ever to walk the ramp at the Jones.
Why couldn’t we just secede from TTU and declare ourselves independent.
Noooo. Instead we have to listen to the sniveling “move oners” and long for the day when men were men and sheep were scared in Lubbock.
What’s the world coming to? I just can’t go on!
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I’m a man!! I’m 21!!! Talk to me!!! I’m a man.
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nice disguise nancy
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I’m a man, I love sheep and goats. And I really LOVE Mike Leach.
Long live the Captain.
Captain, my Captain.
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Nancy? Techster? I AM Techster!!! Do not doubt me!!
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I am Nancy = Adam James
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Hey, let’s gather 500 of our closest friends and we’ll march on the Adminstration Building and demand that the cockroaches leave the building!!! Maybe they can take a mosquito and a boll weevil under each arm.
That’ll make Lubbock a much better place to live!!!
Long live the Matadors!
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Techster = Goat Lover
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It’s been great techster. You, gary/srv, wazoo, and the twatch are fun.
Maybe if you apply your self, you’ll be the baiter twatch is one day. Wait, you’re probably a master already!!
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Hey Adam, lets get your mommy and daddy
and go outside before its dark
cause we are afraid of the dark then we can just….. ” Move On “
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Rob, I am with ya.
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the sky is falling, the sky is falling. we’re a junior college. a tier 3 school with worthless diplomas. we’ll never have a winner in football, basketball (mens or womens), and we’re the laughing stock of the south plains.
whoa is me. whoa is me. i’m destined to live my life in a whatburger fry line.
but, thus is life.
techster, one day you’ll grow up. probably not soon, but when your cognitive brain develops (if it ever does with the amount of alcohol and dope you must use), you’ll see how childish you really are.
but for now, long live the pierats.
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Aren’t the coaches telling these recruits that if they suck up well, daddy james will announce their names a LOT on tv?
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relationships are fickle. everyone has out-kicked their coverage at some point with a significant other. when it didn’t work out your buddies asked what in the world you were thinking. maybe the current tech staff didn’t care for him. maybe t boone pays better than sowel. maybe he likes okie state better than tech. who cares. disd recruits tend to be a little hit and miss anyway.
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Good point, gogotech, but OSU instead of Tech? Really?! Stillwater sucks much worse than Lubbock….
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Just as predicted. You can knock Gundy all you want, but Okie State will consume Tech’s market share regarding the air raid in the years to come. Sad-very sad!! Having a personal understanding of how recruiting works, don’t think for a moment that this kid’s HS coach didn’t have an influence. Much of recruiting is built on coach to coach relationships. This shows a chink in the armor and only the beginning. We’ll be 2-3 years behind OSU before those relationships are firm.
It is the beginning of mediocrity inching its way back to Tech. Oh, so you all know what Scotty Young’s plan B was-you guessed it-Okie State. There are a number of former players PO’d at Tech and feel no allegiance to their Alma Mater. In fact, you might see another Tech former player joining GH on the OSU staff real soon.
This is going down like Patton defeating Rommel in North Africa. When asked how he did it: Patton stated that he read and studied Rommel’s book on armor warfare.
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I’m a salesman, thats what I do.
Then I run twice, pass once, and punt.
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Wow, the James Gang has a whole bunch of new names. You guys are pathetic.
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Again, you Tubby fans, you want the Leach crowd to shut up? Tubbs has to AT LEAST win the amount of games Leach won last year. No back peddling. No “well with the change and all, it may be 2,3,5years”. None of that crap. The talent is there. Either this guy is as good as some of you contend, or he sucks. We will see in about 7 or 8 months. I hope he succeeds, but hes following an awfully good coach. I hope he succeeds for the kids, not for him, not for a-hole Myers. Its about those guys who walk the campus and wear the red and black on Saturdays. Leach is gone. I sat thru one miserable season after another when I went to Tech, and before, and after. I want a winner. I dont care if he shoots Hance the finger every day. Success always comes at a price. Now is the time for Tubbs to step up and make the Tubby fan – fan base look like they knew what they were talking about. Wreck ‘em baby!!
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HOOK ‘EM HORNS!
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Since some on this board seem to know everything, we need your help on health care.
Get over it folks!
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Honestly, nobody is surprised with these guys not coming to Tech are they?
If you were parents, would you want your kids coming into an environment like this? Honestly, would you? i don’t think so!
I mean with a crooked chancellor and athletic director? There is a good chance your child would be stolen from or something,
Honestly, Ranger junior college is looking much much more attractive.
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Basketball-been in the toilet for a while now
Football-being flushed down the toilet
Baseball-maybe we can compete there….Naw!
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Time to move on………..to the walk-ons !!
Surely Tubby can rustle-up some of those.
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Wow Tubs has it rough. I read one post that said if Tech wins in the fall it will be all because of what Leach left, but if he loses it is because he is a bad coach. Seems to be painting a lose/lose scenario for the new coach. Just to update the reference to Ranger Junior College, they dropped the Junior a few years back as did Cisco Junior College last year.
As to this player not coming to Tech, I would have thought his first and foremost bond would have been with the offensive line coach rather than the head coach and one of the defensive coaches. But the changing of oral commitments happens often even where there are not coaching changes.
I think we will have a great football season this fall no matter who gets the credit. Go Tech!
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raider4ever said: “Tubervile won’t be any better than Steve Sloan, who played with Carlen’s players then left before his bad recruiting showed up.”
I keep seeing statements like this with nothing to back them up. Tuberville had to rebuild at both Ole Miss and Auburn and did a fine job. Like it or not, Tuberville is our coach now and it can only help to be supportive of his program. Remember, recruits (at least Texas Tech recruits) can read and do read comments on these websites.
I’m as unhappy as the next guy the way this all unfolded but hating on Tuberville doesn’t help.
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This is definitely a coup by OSU. Their recruiting class has improved and I think they are now out recruiting us. It has always been a close race between Tech and OSU with Tech having the lead. That may be changing.
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Raider Backer……………75% of these negative comments you are so worried about would disappear with
a couple of resignations in the Administration …………I’m just sayin’……………
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Raider Backer,
It is obvious from these people’s comments that they don’t care if anything they say hurts the Tech football program. As a matter of fact most of them would just wet themselves a little if Tech has a miserable season this fall. There is no way they can continue to claim to be Tech fans and supporters with the stuff they post. I think we will win the Big 12 South and maybe even the entire Big 12 this fall.
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Okie State just had the most underachieving year in an underachieving Big 12. Gundy’s never gonna get it (BIG 12 TITLE) done at Okie State. Just like Leach was never gonna get it done at Tech. Make no mistake, Mike Leach has already joined Hal Mumme in obscurity and did it to HIMSELF!!
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One must still use a knife to cut out the cancer. It’s not pleasant, but if used and situation is dealt with quickly the recovery can be made and improvement happen.
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Otherwise the cancer will grow and infection will occur throughout the system and death will follow.
Take your pick which one would be best for Tech…
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Raider4ever
On the contrary….The TRUE Tech fans want the corruption Gone so we CAN have a football program!
So we CAN build a tradition
So we CAN keep a coach and let him be allowed to COACH
It’s really plain and simple…join forces and let a majority rule…oust the corrupt administrators and THEN ….”move on ”
Wreck Em….when we can
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I don’t usually post on these message boards, but I have to say to ALL OF YOU who resort to name calling and bashing other people’s opinions is childish. I enjoy coming on here to read what others think and maybe to gain a little perspective, but 95% of the posts are insults and trash talking back and forth which is disrespectful to Tech students, fans and alumni, so I ask, please STOP, Thanks, cause I’m tired of sifting through the bs to read something worth a cent.
But to my real opinions, as an ’02 grad I watched the football transition from less than mediocre to selling out games and beating UT and OU on a regular basis…what I hate now is that our recruiting class was in the top 25 and now, i’d bet we barely break the top 50. I don’t blame this all on Tuberville, i believe he’s just the pawn for the admin and craig james. However, Tubbs has made his share of mistakes, IMO, by passing on Holgorsen for OC (possibly the best OC in the country) but probably did so due to the admin telling him the didn’t want anything that looked like leach, smelled like leach, played for leach, or supported leach in any way (Cumbie kept his mouth shut, smartly and he’s a GA, it would’ve been pretty sad if Tubbs let him go), Moreso, we allowed Holgorsen to go to a division rival who just got thru beating us, what makes us think that they won’t do it again next yr? And now we are not only losing recruits because of the coaching change but our alumni and players don’t even want to come back here…I think that says a lot for the state of our program!
Last, I would like to challenge Myers to schedule ECU, not only so that Ruffin and Riley can get a chance to prove what they are really worth, but also so the fans can show R and R how much we appreciate what they did for us and wish them the best of luck. I bet, tho Myers would not even dare think about this…afraid we’d actually lose!
I will ALWAYS support TECH, but the admin has to go
P.S. can someone repost the link for the govenors office so that I may voice my opinion there, thank you!
Brandon, Class of ’02
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Oh, and Leach was great with taking the overlooked recruits from UT and OU and competing with them, and before he left he was getting top notch athletes from across the country….we’ll see how good a coach Tubbs really is when he starts seeing how hard it is to recruit with UT and OU as we begin to lose our identity and become the red headed stepchild once again.
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Brandon
Govenor’s director of governmental appointments
512-463-1800
This is the office that appoints Tech Regents
P.S. Republican Govenor Rick perry IS one of the ” good ole boys”
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I know it is third hand, but a friend of a friend that knows TT said that Tuberville was desperate to get back in D-1 and was applying everywhere and was disappointed he jumped at the Tech job after Tennessee came open. He wishes he would have stayed available since he thought that would have been ideal for him and even entertained interviewing there, but thought it would totally destroy his rep. Person also said at best Tuberville will be here 3 years and would not be surprised if he would pull a Kiffin and bolt after 1 year.
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At this point the cancer that needs to be removed are posters like Watchdog113, Techster, and others that continue to pull Tech down with their negative comments. I liked Leach too, but he is gone. Some of the blame has to land squarely on Leach’s shoulders. Apparently some must have been hopelessly in love with Leach with a “man crush”and can’t move on to the reality of now.
Even if the administration is cancerous evil the bottom line that is indisputable is this:
IF LEACH HAD NOT TRIED TO HUMILIATE ADAM JAMES(even though he is a class A jerk) THEN LEACH WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN SUSPENDED AND WOULD STILL BE OUR COACH TODAY! FOR THIS IMMATURE CHILDISH ACTION LEACH STARTED THE ENTIRE INCIDENT THAT ENDED WITH HIS FIRING.
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Raider4ever
That is hearsay……NOBODY knows for sure what happened expect the people who were there!!!
SEE, this is where the problem is!!
THIS is what hance is counting on!!
THEY actually wanted this to be gone by now and KNEW that the only thing that would be heard was THEIR side!!!
THEY are so desperately counting on Sowder applying sovereign immunity to this case so that we will NEVER know the truth!!
OVER half the players are supporting Leach but you’ve heard NOTHING from them because of the impending law suit
Hance and company were counting on this being LONG DONE by now and thought by using Craig James’ celebrity, that it would be!!
Do you not even CARE to know?
If Leach in fact DIDN’T mistreat James and this was PROVED….would it make a difference in your wanting changes in administration?
IF it was proved that this was a FULL BLOWN conspiracy would it waiver your indifference?
Can we NOT support the team and yet strive to get the truth from administraion at the same time?
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techster, i’m thinking you must’ve slept through all of your english and composition classes.
you really may want to go to SPC and step up to a second rate junior college.
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Techster
What if the truth comes out that everything happened just the way it has been reported, that Pirate boy did mistreat baby James, did tell Hance to kiss his a double s that he was not going to sign a formal repremand letter and the admin can go to hell. Are you going to get on this site and recant everything you been spewing? The problem is both sides of this argument need to shut the hell up until the truth comes out.
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BIG TRUCK
I will and i would hope if Leach is innocent then people will ( while still supporting the team) band together and try to get changes made in admin………..heck, who knows, maybe it will get them fired and we can all unite!
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As I recall I saw video of Leach saying that he ordered Adam put somewhere dark. I think he also stated in this video that he cussed him out. Unless this was a doctored video or Leach was coerced to lie I would not dismiss this as here say. The video interview of Leach stating all this is what makes me say that Leach in fact started the chain of events that led to his firing.
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I have a hard time believing that Tech or the Administration acted inappropriately considering all the legal staff at their dispose. Leach got a big head and got what he deserved. I don’t think a good coach that was actually winning championships would have gotten a way with that. Mangino at least won an Orange bowl and even he was fixing to get the boot. Sorry pirate boy.
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Big Truck:
You are too naive. Wake up and get an injection of reality. Leach did not get “what he deserved”… unless you follow the panty-waist philosophy of “NEVER MAKE ME CRY.”
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Please allow me to introduce the new masters of the “Air Raid” offense…Oklahoma State!!! With Holgorsen as OC and Graham Harrell on board they’re going to start stealing our recruits and perfecting our offense. Beating us on and off the field. Look for OSU to be the team to watch out for in the near future. It was nice while it lasted wasn’t it??
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iheartnancy go back to Adams house and have your dessert
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ATX_Raider
I know it won’t happen but how awesome would it be if Coach got the head coaching job at OSU when Gundy leaves!
And he came back here to take on the running game of hance, tubbs and craig!
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Ha! I would like to see that Techster. I only hope Hance and his band of merry men aren’t here any longer to see it except from their TV’s. Technically though…with Holgorsen as OC he basically will be. So we’ll be seeing it soon enough.
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Yes, it was fun while it lasted. I’ve never been to any kind of event where the crowd was more into the game than UT @ TTU 2008. The old boring grind it out offense just won’t be as much fun. Oh well. It was a long drive from Dallas to Lubbock. Maybe Leach will land somewhere that gets decent TV exposure.
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Recruits dropping like flies because they were going to be on bad chit…when will it end…maybe never if the stoogies and the regents are stillin office. Pathetic!
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@Iheartchickenlittle
Careful what you say. I know several people taking prereqs to get into nursing and/or radiology school over there in Levelland who took chemistry, anatomy and microbiology at TTU because SPC was “too damn hard”. You run your mouth, or, in this case, fingers with alot of arrogance, and ignorance. Fire Myers….Wreck ‘em, daddy-o!! By the way, let me save you the trouble. I went all 5, yeah I said 5, years at TTU. What hallowed institution did you grace with your matriculation?
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i hate iheart. he/she is an evil, cynical, hateful person.
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Raider4ever said: “Raider Backer, It is obvious from these people’s comments that they don’t care if anything they say hurts the Tech football program. As a matter of fact most of them would just wet themselves a little if Tech has a miserable season this fall. There is no way they can continue to claim to be Tech fans and supporters with the stuff they post. I think we will win the Big 12 South and maybe even the entire Big 12 this fall. “
Agreed.
Techster said: “Raider4ever On the contrary….The TRUE Tech fans want the corruption Gone so we CAN have a football program! So we CAN build a tradition So we CAN keep a coach and let him be allowed to COACH It’s really plain and simple…join forces and let a majority rule…oust the corrupt administrators and THEN ….”move on ” Wreck Em….when we can ”
We do have a football program and we do have traditions. Honor does not mean you get to put down the football team to further your other goals. You can support the football team while moving to “oust the corrupt administrators”. Or at least if you’re smart, you can. As far as a majority, your opinion is at best part of the vocal minority. Even Team Leach says they do not support bashing of the existing coach or program. Raider4ever nailed you perfectly in his comments above.
“Brandon said: . . .However, Tubbs has made his share of mistakes, IMO, by passing on Holgorsen for OC. . .And now we are not only losing recruits because of the coaching change but our alumni and players don’t even want to come back here…I think that says a lot for the state of our program!”
FYI, there was a lot of interest in bringing Holgerson back to Tech but after his letter in support of Coach Leach, it wasn’t going to happen. Same with Harrell. Not Tuberville’s fault, unfortunately just the way it is. We may be losing some recruits because of the coaching change but some of that is due to the coaches re-evaluating. For example, some of the recruits who have de-committed are not even being pursued by the current staff. One that is still wanted by the current coaches is the recruit who switched to OSU. But these types of things happen every year regardless of coaching changes so no one can really say for sure Leach would have kept the entire class together. Appreciate your comments.
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“Raider4ever” wrote:
Even if the administration is cancerous evil the bottom line that is indisputable is this:
IF LEACH HAD NOT TRIED TO HUMILIATE ADAM JAMES(even though he is a class A jerk) THEN LEACH WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN SUSPENDED AND WOULD STILL BE OUR COACH TODAY! FOR THIS IMMATURE CHILDISH ACTION LEACH STARTED THE ENTIRE INCIDENT THAT ENDED WITH HIS FIRING.
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While I agree there were things Coach Leach could have done differently, it’s doubtful in my mind that any discipline toward Adam James would have been below the radar. Craig James had an agenda … you don’t hire a nationally prominent PR firm to file complaints against a coach.
I accept Coach Leach is gone … that’s simply the truth. What is also the truth is that there is much left unknown. Permitting a possible “cancerous evil” to remain in the administration is a disservice to the University, its students, and alumni. I really have no care regarding the financial payouts that may or may not be awarded, but any (if any) underlying deals, secret handshakes, improper application of contract terms, and agendas need to be exposed. If Tech can’t be 100% positive that its leadership is above reproach, then it’s time for new leadership.
The Coach Leach firing is just the platform … the integrity of Texas Tech is the subject. Mediation with a “closed settlement” may qualify in legal circles as an expression of justice but I find such a deal to be far from the best result when it comes to improving the quality of the institution.
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I’m opposed to doing this, but RaiderBacker…if you hadn’t …ed my words you would have understood that I hold relatively similar beliefs to what you stated because what you omitted stated that I didn’t think the hiring or lack thereof was not all of Tubbs fault cause he
“probably did so due to the admin telling him they didn’t want anything that looked like leach, smelled like leach, played for leach, or supported leach in any way”
My point which you point out very well…is that the state of the program is in trouble if we have our admin directing who we should and shouldn’t hire as coaches because of their affiliations or beliefs as opposed to the quality of the personnel…whats next, are they going to be dictating who he is recruiting to his team??? Who really has control in this situation? I’m sure this wont get read however, bc i’m a couple days behind sorry….maybe i can make my point elsewhere for you.
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ENOUGH OF THIS NEGATIVISM! You people who claim that you are going to jerk your season tickets and pull your support for the program – ____ YOU and GO TO HELL! You never were a Red Raider and you must have just bought a Tech T-shirt at Wal-Mart. This program has never been mediocre and never will be. The idiots around here who think so are both ignorant and unintelligent. What are you going to do? Become a damned OSU Aggie or transfer your loyalty to Baylor or TCU? GOOD RIDDANCE!!! The reason why our program has risen to the level that the 2 words “National Championship” can even be mentioned is due to the overwhelming support that the program has increasingly received from all Red Raiders. More money for facilities. More money for recruiting. More money for – yes – COACHES. We have continued to beautify and update our campus. We are on the verge of becoming a Tier One Research Institution. Yes, there is controversy, but now is the time to re-dedicate our support for a football program that needs solidarity among fans. Every time you say something negative, you can blame yourself for the loss of a recruit. This doom and gloom is making me sick to my stomach. The fact is, our football team was less affected by all the happenings than the fans were. They went out and won a bowl game while all of you idiots were yelling about how you were through buying seats at Jones! Keep your sad B.S. to yourself! You are only hurting the program and the University. This program is top flight. Just ask Spike Dykes if he would have been able to use all this extra support and cash. He took us to bowls and beat Texas and A&M on a regular basis with good ol’ West Texas boys and worn out facilities. He would have loved to make the kind of money the present day coaches are making. Speaking of money, you have to give Kent Hance credit for at least two things no matter what else you say about him. He has set records for fund raising every year he’s been in office. Our enrollment, even with increased admission standards, has also set records under his watch. Like Baron Batch said after we won the Alamo Bowl, Mike Leach is gone and it matters not why anymore. Either back this new coach and back our program GUNG HO or haul ass and shut up!
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To TTruth: you don’t know squat about our history. Our old “grind it out offense” produced two Doak Walker award winners. You weren’t in the stands back in 1976 when we beat Texas(obviously). How about that A&M game when Zach Thomas picked off a pass and ran in for a touchdown to win the game? You obviously weren’t there. I went to my first Tech game in 1965. I’ll never forget it. I was in the first grade. We beat Arkansas on the last game of the season. They came in here #6 in the nation. They had finished #2 in the nation the year before. It was that game that inspired me to learn all about the game of football. My parents started taking me regularly in 1968 as long as my grades in school were kept up to a level that they felt was representative of my abilities. Except for a few years when I lived in Dallas after graduating from Tech in 1982, I have rarely missed a game. We have had some awesome crowds and games through the years. TTruth, maybe you should take some classes at North Texas and become a Mean Green fan. They could use a few uninformed fair weather people like you. We don’t want your ass around here.
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Rarely post but this crap needs to stop…Crap from the Admin…Crap from the fans….Crap from the crybabies. If anyone was here in the 60′s and I was…Tech was mediocre….the stadium might be full but by the beginning of 2nd half…after the band marched…the stands were largely empty….Tech has been the “Red Faiders” not Red Raiders on many occasions through the years…an embarrassment to all for their failure to show up in the last quarter or at all against ranked teams. Be that as it may, Tech deserves better…better from their administration, better from their coaches, better from their fans! So, Lead…Follow…or Get Out of the Way, so someone else can. As for Leach…what he did may have crossed the line but not to the extent of what I or others experienced as a players. Adam James is an adult and he and his father should act like adults…if they don’t like what’s going on…pack your bag, get in your car, get on the plane, bus or hitch hike like I did in the 60′s and go where every you want to…there are lot of roads out of the south plains and Tech….take your pick and don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!!! PS…take anyone else that doesn’t want to support Tech with you…I am tired of seeing and hearing from them!!! What was the song the Mac Davis sung….”Happiness is Lubbock Texas in your rear view mirror…post that on your bulletin board Greg, Adam, Kent, Gerald and anyone else that thinks they can second guess the coach or coach better than the head coach, who ever they are!
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Techster, Please shoot yourself. Oh, if you don’t want to do that, just go down to I-27 at fourth street and run out in front of an 18 wheeler. The university will be grateful for your actions and you will be duly noted. Thank You.
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Rob Van Stavern, Go to the official Athletic Site and download the history. The facts speak against you. When you have winning records you are not mediocre. Your heart is in the right place though because people need to back the program or hit the trail. Trivia question: What school has been to the most Sun Bowls since its inception? look through our history Rob and you will see that we are an above average football program and have been since Pete Cawthon.
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For all those who want to get a dose of reality: Go to work Monday morning and cuss out your boss. Tell him that you aren’t going to sign the agreement he wants you to sign regarding future procedures concerning your subordinates. Then take off for Arizona to play golf at the end of the day. I’ll bet you a million dollars you won’t have a job the next morning. You won’t have the luxury of a suspension. If you get a suspension and you don’t have enough sense to sit down with your boss and humble yourself a little bit, but you file suit against the company….well you don’t have anyone to blame but yourself. Leach wasn’t fired for the way he handled Adamette James. He was fired for defying the Chancellor by not agreeing to sign a statement regarding future procedures. He got suspended when anyone else in the real world would have already been fired. Even then he could have sat down with Hance and worked things out but he filed suit against Tech instead. Anyone who has ever tried to make a deal in the business world knows he is not going to be successful at closing a deal when he starts talking about attorneys and filing suit to the people he is trying to make a deal with. Much less actually filing suit. I don’t care what school a coach wants to work for he’s always going to have to have respect for the Chancellor and a little bit of humility when he is dealing with that Chancellor. And why not? Who among those who is reading my comments feels that they don’t have to show proper respect where it is due in this world in order to accomplish their goals? I’m saying that they are either only 21 years old and destined to get a bloody nose real soon or they are a person who has never succeeded in this world. That said let’s drop the Leach thing and get behind Tommy Tuberville now!
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RedRaiderEveryYear
YOU move on…YOU move on out of town
A REAL tech fan can NOT move on until the corruption in andministration is cleaned out!!
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