Texas Tech chooses Tuberville
Back in his childhood, Tommy Tuberville used to come to West Texas during the summer to spend some of his time off from school.
The mood won’t be nearly as relaxed and carefree this time around.
The veteran coach who not long ago led Auburn to five New Year’s Day bowl games was hired Saturday to take over at Texas Tech, where he’ll be asked to keep a winning program on the right track and unite a fan base bitter over the firing of Mike Leach.
Sept. 15, 2007--Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville watches his team play Mississippi State at Auburn in the first half. (Montgomery Advertiser, David Bundy)
“Coach Tuberville has got a proven record,” Tech athletic director Gerald Myers said. “He was highly successful over in the Southeastern Conference. We just feel he can come in and take our program and hopefully continue on the success we’ve had and even build it to a higher level.”
When reached Saturday afternoon on his cell phone, Tuberville said Tech officials had asked him not to discuss his hiring until the news conference. He made a few impromptu comments when he got to town, however.
“I’ve been out for a year, and I’m fired up to be in a new conference,’’ Tuberville said shortly after he arrived in Lubbock. “It’s exciting in our business when you’re at a new place.
“I’m excited about being here.’’
Tuberville, 55, will be given a five-year contract averaging $1.5 million a year, plus incentives, The Avalanche-Journal learned. Other contracts details are still being worked out.
Tech will hold a news conference to introduce Tuberville at 2 p.m. Sunday at United Spirit Arena, though it will be closed to the public, Tech officials said.
Last week, Tuberville told the A-J Tech would be a good place for him to resurface after a year out of coaching. He said he wouldn’t take just any offer.
“I’m going to get into one where they’ve got a chance to win and people are excited about it,’’ he said.
One of his first tasks will be to win over players who had their heart set on interim head coach Ruffin McNeill getting the job permanently. On Friday, quarterback Steven Sheffield said at least 90 percent of the team wanted McNeill.
“Some people might be wishing we would have Ruff more than coach Tuberville, but this might be the best thing for us,’’ quarterback Taylor Potts said. “I think everybody will make the most of this and play hard. All the young guys and the other guys coming back, all we want to do is win and play football and be surrounded by friends and families. I think coach Tuberville will do a good job of leading us in the right direction.’’
Another player who had lobbied for McNeill, middle linebacker Brian Duncan, said, “We can’t let it affect us.’’
“It’s time to get to work now,’’ Duncan said. “We’ve got a head coach, and we have to get to work and be able to adapt to whatever he brings in and play our game, play Red Raider football.’’
McNeill did not return phone messages or answer calls to his cell phone Saturday.
Tuberville was head coach at Mississippi from 1995 through 1998, where he went 25-20 with a program that was under NCAA sanctions. His Rebels teams never had a full allotment of scholarships.
From Ole Miss, he moved to Auburn from 1999 through 2008, his tenure highlighted by a run of eight consecutive winning seasons from 2000 through 2007. The Tigers won a Southeastern Conference championship and five SEC West Division titles or co-titles.
Though the Tigers went 13-0 in 2004, Tuberville’s tenure ended with a 5-7 season in 2008. He was forced out 13 months ago, with Auburn agreeing to pay the $5.1 million remaining on his contract.
Tuberville’s 10-year record at Auburn (85-40) was remarkably similar to Leach’s 10-year record at Tech (84-43). He has indicated he will try to strike a balance between doing what he knows and not upsetting the spread-passing offense that worked so well for Leach.
“It’d be crazy to change it,’’ Tuberville told the A-J last Sunday. “That’s a trademark of Texas Tech now. It’s helped put them on the map. It’s helped in recruiting, I’ve noticed.’’
Tuberville said he was first exposed to the spread passing game when Dennis Erickson went to Miami (Fla.) as head coach in 1989.
“Being a defensive guy, I really liked it,’’ Tuberville said. “It helps you on defense train your defensive backs.’’
Tuberville and his family flew in Saturday evening to Lubbock, which is not unfamiliar territory. Tuberville said his mother grew up in Seminole and he has an aunt and an uncle who went to Tech.
One of Tuberville’s first orders of business was to meet with Leach’s staff, none of whom had any assurance of retaining their jobs. The A-J learned late Saturday that the assistants weren’t immediately told who, if any, among them would be retained.
“I’ve built a relationship with all the coaches and get along well with all those coaches,’’ Potts said, “but that’s kind of the nature of the business. They come and go sometimes. It’s rare to be in one spot a long time. They know that, too.
“I wish they could all stay, but I understand that some of them might be headed a different way, onto a bigger move.’’
Staff writer Adam Zuvanich contributed to this report.
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Thank you for finally making a decision…………
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Welcome to boring football….hopefully he leaves Riley as the play caller and just stays a “decision” coach.
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Raider Nation lets move forward with Tommy Tuberville (TT) if he keeps the offense and with his defense it will make Texas Tech Football better.
Team Leach lets keep moving forward and get the 3 stooges out of here and make Texas Tech University the best.
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Hooray!
They aren’t as dumb as we thought.
Tub is a great choice!
His hometown paper today was saying he should go to USF and had a lot of good things to say about him.
See http://www2.oanow.com/oan/sports/college/article/szvetitz_column_tuberville_usf_match_made_in_heaven/121267/
Tech should be able to move up now.
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He has credentials. Strong recruiter. With the type of talent here, I don’t think he’ll try to reinvent the wheel. We will see.
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Hire whoever you want, the TEAM LEACH is not going to go away,the same people that started this fiasco are the same ones who fired Leach and started this fiasco in the same place, team ruff?
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I wash my hands of Tech. They no longer exist for me.
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Yes, thank you for finally making a decision. This is the best choice, Tuberville will be great, I really thought we was gonna let him slip away. Thank y’all for finally making a right decision for once.
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Good choice. Now Team Leach get the 3 stooges out of here!!!
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Finally a GOOD decision by the AD and administration. TT will be an excellent fit for Tech!
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Myers, you are a stupid man and disgraceful representative of our great Raider Nation. Tubbs is a mediocre coach at best but he will definitely fit into the good ole boy network that runs our university. Ruff had the players united and has made a noticable difference. Now all the chemistry has been disrupted and the rebuilding will take a few years. Myers, you have my upmost contempt.
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Although it wasnt my first choice, he is the best coach available thats willing to come to West Texas. Yes Mike Leach brought Tech to a new level here but he never took Tech to that next level (no big 12 championships and best bowl game the holiday bowl?) which is something Tubberville has done in the tough SEC conference. And yes I know if you look at the last years of his coaching at Auburn they were not good but coaches dont last long in the SEC. Hopefully he can build a strong sec type defense which is something Tech has always lacked. I think this will work as long as he keeps the spread offense here, otherwise we will be returning to the days of ol Spike D.
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Thank you Stooges for making the right choice, the better choice and for FINALLY making a choice. Tuberville is the man that can continue to keep Tech competitive an to ascend up the football food chain. I can’t tell you how excited I am for this move and I guarantee the Red Raider fandom that this is what needed to be done. You will not be disappointed. No more losses by lesser opponents. He will field a competitive team that will smack people in the mouth. And not to take anything away from Ruff, this defense that will be fielded next year will be even stronger and tougher. Have faith Lubbock, the winning tradition will continue under this leadership and we will all be better for it…
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Anyone connected with Leach or has stood up for him will be gone, coaches bring in their own staf and I quote, We will evaluate the current coaches the defense needs improvement and Im sure they will evaluate players as well. well see .,not to be negative but history does repeat itself!!
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LET’S HOPE TUBER IS SMART ENOUGH AND LEAVE THE OFFICE THE WAY IT IS, MAYBE GO AFTER U OF H OFFENSE COOR THAT WAS HE UNDER LEACH
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According to ESPN NEWS (for what that is worth) TUBERVILLE will keep staff in place, first item on the list is to talk to staff, players and to to keep recruits, Coaches conference next week that he will attend, probably pick up some staff to round things out, spoke of TUBERVILLE’s record, how he get along with everyone, team builder, will have mend fences, good with players and fans. a good diplomat etc
TECH to announce soon according toESPN
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Excellent choice, the same people that fired Leach, made this choice, insanity does rule without a doubt in Lubbock..!!
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I do not believe this will slow down TEAM LEACH they have their eye on the ball the bigger issue.
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What a shame! They screw up by firing the best coach in history and then can’t hire the man they need for the job. Once again, money talks! Who at TTU has the guts to stand up and do what’s right, apparently nobody.
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THE OLD SAYING “ONE BAD APPLE” — WHAT ABOUT THREE BAD APPLES!
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What do the recruits think about Tuberville? Will the offensive scheme change? How many of the staff will Tuberville replace? What was the decisive factor for this choice?
I like Ruff and really wanted him to get the HC job. Hopefully Tuberville will keep the key staff intact and build upon the base that Leach established.
I’m a loyal Tech Alum…not a Leach Alum…ready to move on!!
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Well….Suprise, Suprise! Another good Ol’boy for the administration to use as a puppet. I was mixed about who to hire but I always new Coach Ruff did not have a “fair” shot at getting this job despite the fact that he is what Red Raider Nation needed and would have settled for at this time. For PC sake I will leave it at that. Congrats Coach Tubbervile, welcome to Tech just remember that this is not the SEC.so please do not try to bring in that boring style of football to the most exciting football team in the country. Also, for recruting purposes you MUST keep the tech staff in place.
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So Chris, who was the right man?
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Now that a decision has finally been made, only time will tell if it was the correct decision. As it would have been had they hired Ruff.
Both had pros and cons to their resume and fit at Tech. I was going to be “satisfied” with either decision, since Leach was not coming back.
As regards, to Riley as OC, is he truly ready? He was the play caller at the Alamo Bowl, but that was just implementing the plan, system and preparation that Leach had put in place.
Why not go for Dana Holgerson? He may jump at a chance to come back to Tech and get into the Big XII and BCS conference, thereby improving his resume for further coaching positions, or the Tech HC if Tuberville doesn’t pan our or plays the stepping stone game.
I am a season ticket holder (qty 4) and am still debating on whether to renew. A lot will depend on what they do with the pricing. If it increases like last year, I can’t justify renewing. The price was increased by 30-50% depending on if you add in the Red Raider Club requirement to the cost.
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What a buch of morons! Recruiting just went down the tube. Current players were sold out for sure.
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Yes Leach never led Tech to any Big 12 championships but realize who Tech has to recruit against? Texas and OU get the best players out of Texas not to mention LSU and other schools who come to Texas and recruit. If Leach would have able to get the recruits Texas gets year in and year out then he would have won some Big XII Championships.
Leach did an AWESOME job for Tech for 10 years considering the recruits Tech is able to get although he was starting to change that in the last few years. Too bad the 3 stooges got rid of him. Now we move forward into the Tuberville era. As long as he keeps the current offense system I think we’ll be good. We really need to strengthen the defense to compete for the Big XII South Championship.
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What did you expect? This is the safe choice…..don’t forget he tried to go to the spread in his last season at Auburn. He abandoned it a few games in and threw his offensive co ordinator under the bus. He had not recruited the talent to run the spread but tried it anyway. He ended up with a losing season and he was forced out. I guess we will see if he stays with it here.
Now on to getting rid of the 3 stooges. This doesn’t make us forget how those idiots have screwed up something good.
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Leach to USC?
Hearing all kinds of crazy rumors about Leach out here on the west coast. One is Leach to USC, another is Leach to Oregon State…
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He has already said he is keeping high flying offense just making adjustments in d! I’m pumped becase with tt defense and the off that we already have thus team is just going to get better!
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Good one MMTT, Holgerson would be the perfect fit and head coach in waiting
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Tuberville must remember that this is BIG 12 footbal and not sec. THROW BABY THROW
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Great hire! The offense will stay in place and maybe well finally have a defense that can help us compete. I just removed myself from team Leach, its over, so move on. Leach was a good coach with a gimmick offense that produced no big 12 championships in 10 YEARS and best win being the Holiday Bowl, even Mangino got to a BCS game! Tubberville is a proven winner and has the chance to do very well, time to support the guy even though I dont like the administration either.
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Good choice! Now cut James from the team!
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What did everyone expect? Money talks and Tech is not going to shell out the green
to attract a coach Texas Tech deserves…….so as I’ve been saying, get used to mediocrity
Tech fans, it’s finally arrived.
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I am so “arse-whipped” by the whole, we can’t compete with the OU’s, the TU’s, and ATM’s in recruiting, blah, blah, blah………
We may never be able to do that folks. It is what it is. Accept it. We (Tech) will always be 3rd or 4th choice. But don’t let that rain on your parade. Look at Coach Patterson and TCU. He only wishes he could get the type of athletes Tech gets. Can you imagine how much better they would be? Very scary is all I can say. It is about getting the right athletes for the right system and having them believe in what your teaching.
It sucks what happened to Leach. No one was more hurt than me. I hate that this even developed and became national news. However, he’s NOT coming back. Your wounds will heal, I promise! Hell, if we win the Big 12, you guys may even forget who he was…..just kidding of course.
Let Tommy T do his thing in Lubbock. You guys may see a brand of boring football, but that’s only because Leach had the most outrageous of them all! It will work and you will see the wins come along with the bowl invitations.
We are Red Raider Nation and we ALL need to be united and stand behind our school despite what those 3 idiots did!
GO!…FIGHT!…WIN!
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same ol story i agree with you. Tech would have never hired a black HC becuz this town is still that redneck hick town that still feels like a black man is not smart enough to be a HC. They got what they wanted! Ruff had a team that would unite and play together. The players loved him. He had everything in place to make it better. Now changes will be made that’s not for the best interest of the team
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Same ol story & It figures, go play your sad little poor me story somewhere else. What an old tired worn out thing to use the race card in this.
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it figures
I would love to see a black head coach here, although Ruff was a great motivator, and thats all I ever hear about the man, Tech D was still mediocre at best. If motivation was the case then bring in Tony Robbins to coach the team, I like Ruff but as head coach? I also question Ruffins health and if hes healthy enough to make it through the rigourous seasons.
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ric ryan, what makes you think Tuberville comes cheap? Know any details?
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you idiots posting about not hiring a black man are foolish. Ruff was the head coach for the bowl game, and i saw TONS of support for him. Youre just still sore about Leach being fired. Get over it. The best coach for TTU is Mike Leach, but that aint happening. SO what now? WE MOVE ON. Tubs is a GREAT coach, one whom would have never looked at TTU withouth the contributions of Leach and CO.
This move will make TTU a threat for the BIG 12 south every year, mark my words.
GO TECH
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The people pulling for Ruff need to get over it. It had nothing to do with race – they got the best coach that we could. Ruff is pretty good but he’s not a proven HC whereas Tommy Tuberville is. I think Tech made the right decision.
Also quit calling for heads to roll in the administration. Gerald Meyers is the only one that needs to go. The rest of them have done so much for this university. It is time to move on and to embrace this change – its a good change.
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“They” (and we all know who “They” are) finally got rid of Coach Leach and “They” got rid of Coach Ruff before he could even get started. “They” now have their CEO/Head Coach who looks just like all the other CEO/Head Coaches. Under Leach, Tech had estabished a unique identity in college football. Young people are drawn to that. Tech football was different and had become something special. If “They” think that hiring Tuberville is going to turn Tech into Texas or OU or Alabama or Ohio State…”They” are nuts. Tech is a great school. Tech can be very competitive in all sports. They have become more than just competitive in football. But it will take a couple of generations of success (and National Titles) to put Tech up there with the perennial powers. Tech’s beat Nebraska the last four times they’ve played, but most people in this country (including blue-chip high school football players) still view Nebraska as having a superior football program. But, I don’t care.
Tech has carved out it’s own niche. Their greatest strength has been the fact they just seemed to be a little different than other teams. Coach Leach was different. Their crazy good offense was different. Their fans were different. Lurking out there on the High Plains waiting to ambush Longhorns and Sooners. It was fun while it lasted.
I’m not defending the way Coach Leach treated Adam James. Leach and everyone else involved should have been able to resolve this without Leach going away. Tuberville is a great coach and from everything I’ve heard, a fine gentleman. But Tech football, as we’ve known it, is gone. Maybe Tuberville and company can make it better. Odds are against it.
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TRO, I couldn’t have said it any better. You are right on.
Thanks a bunch to Mike Leach & all his coaches over the last 10 years. He put Tech on the national college football map. He added Tech to the national championship discussion. Hopefully, Tuberville can build on that and finish the job. Let’s go fill up Jones stadium. 3 Stoogies still need to go!
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As an outsider, who are the three stooges?? Meyers, Hance and ???
You guys should thank God a guy as prominent and capable as Tuberville was available AND accepted the job. I am sure Meyers low balled him. He is a proven winner, organizer and recruiter in the most difficult conference in the country. Ruff is a nice guy, but come on now…has he ever run a big time program successfully? You Ruffians are really being naive. Tuberville is a smart man and knows the modern programs run wide open offenses. Look for him to upgrade that leaky Tech defense and special teams. Incredible hire by Tech.
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I think it is a good hire for Tech. He is a good coach, could not beat the best teams much but a good solid coach. Question will be if the offense stays.
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ESPN is reporting a 5 yr contract at $2 million per year. But, no buy out (can you say Briles), and will keep the same offensive system in place (can you say recruits).
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Great long-term decision!! Tub brings soo much to our program! You can add Florida, Alabama and Louisiana, as just a few strong consistent recruiting states! This guy can take us to the next level.
Current players must buy in! Guys 2010 is your year!!! Your efforts, hard work and mental toughness will get you a Big 12 Title this year! Its on you fellas!!!!!
RAIDER!!!!!!!!…………POWER!!!!!!!
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I think this is excellent! Tub was 85-40 at Auburn in the toughest football conference in Div 1. A proven winner. He will bring a powerful D to the Big 12. He will interface well with the media and alums alike. Instant credibility with recruits and their parents. Whatever faults were exhibited by Myers, Bailey and Hance during the Leach negotiation last year and firing in recent weeks, they have made the best choice here. Well done.
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Great hire!
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Great Hire!!!!
This guy will take Tech to the next level. He is a great SEC defensive mind, and has alot of experience recruiting the southest. An increase in Tech’s defense will lead to future Big12 Championships and will allow Tech to contend for a National Championship. I believe that Tuberville was drawn to Tech because of this fact. The other Big12 schools (especially A&M) are quaking in their boots right now. Welcome aboard Tommy. I may just have to renew my season tickets after all. I will however withhold any future donations until the 3 stooges are gone.
Wreckem Texas Tech
Team Leach continue your efforts and oust the three stooges. Good luck in your case, and your future endevers Coach Leach. We will never forget that it was you that righted the ship, and pointed Tech football in the right direction.
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So when did Tubby push for this job? I bet he talked to James and fellow ESPN people prior to Christmas. The plot thickens the story will not end. Time for intermisson to go pee. Catch the second part of this horror/mystry flick latter….
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This is a great choice! Bailey & Myers definitely still need to go!
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I believe prejudicism is still strong in Lubbock Texas. There was nothing wrong with coach Ruff, but some big moneybag supporter (s) whispered into some panzy’s ear about how it better be. I read in some other commentary that it would play out this way and they were right. Texas Tech sucks. I hope coach Leach sues their pants off and wins. Texas Tech , you suck.
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How do you like me now, Lubbock? How do you like me know?
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He better not change the offense or he’s doomed for sure. If they pay him more than Leach wanted than it’s an outrage. Glad your out of the SEC for good Tubs. Have fun!
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Juan, grow up!
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Being an SEC fan and alum of Ole Miss, I can tell this much – Tuberville will bring instant credibility to Tech as he will (1) recruit good defensive players, and (2) allow your OC to run the offense.
As respects to your complaints about boring football, I’d rather be lulled to sleep and win than chunk the punkin and lose!
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Too bad that the good news wasnt the 3 stooges and the cockroaches resigned their positions,but toomany people from what im reading here are not concerned anymore because that is there mind set, they are more concerned about the new coach is and not what really matters, we got a new coach, good, I truly hope he does wellbut I will hold my judgement of him and see what he does first, will he keep the staff, well see, will he change the offense, well see, can he save the recruting this year well see,what kind of recruits will he get,? will he keep his word?is this going to cause bad feelings among the players? How much damage is done to Tech and its reputation and how soon will people forget how Leach was treated? how long will he stay? lots of unanswered questions , WE WILL SEE ONLY TIME WILL TELL..
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Ruff will be at the rally NOW. :-)
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I am torn on this hire. Part of me was really rooting for Ruffin, his a good man & deserved a chance. Those of you idiots who keep saying it was because of his race & Tech is in Lubbock name the other BIG 12 schools who have EVER hired a black head coach?
The only ones I can recall are ou & the awful John Blake years & K St & Prince. So “red neck” Lubbock would not accept Ruffin? BS. The bastion for liberal idiots is Austin & Boulder. Neither of those places have ever seen a black HC. You have no clue what you are talking about if you blame race. Ruffin had 2 years of DC experience had never been a Head Coach coach. That is what keep him from getting the job. I wish him well.
I have the feeling that Tuberville is not the answer either. If we were going to not hire Ruffin, Tech should have cast a much wider net. Another poor effort from a washed up basketball Coach & a dwi lawyer from Dimmitt. GET RID OF THEM NOW.
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Chris, your statement is entirely hypocritical. Ruffin would’ve been the safe and cheaper hire.
Great job by Tech and the administration by going with a proven Head Coach with notoriety and experience. Doesn’t hurt that he’s from the SEC and bringing in Alabama’s LB coach and top recruiter.
Will be interested to see who he keeps on staff, hopefully most of the offense.
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I can’t forget…THANKS, COACH LEACH, for getting our sputtering program to this level!!!!!!!
You will get redemption!! Team Leach…carry on!!!!!
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Grrrr…
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Now, to also make sure Craig James never gets elected to anything in the state of TX, except maybe dog catcher of Celina
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Hey Tim, our OC was Leach. I’d like to see him pull that hire off.
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Gerald M said:
“How do you like me now, Lubbock? How do you like me know? ”
LMAO…GM had to do it to save his job!!!! (…for the time being) Once Leach wins in court, he’ll have to resign or get fired!!!! Leach is the only reason Tub was interested. Do you really think he would have given TTU a second thought when Spike left…NOPE!!!
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Excellent choice! Bring in Holgerson as OC! Cu Go Red Raiders!
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Theres many on Team Leach that are just AGAINST everything (except ML)- ESPECIALLY TEXAS TECH.
Lets support our new coach and TECH !
Those that are against Tech………go with Leach, wherever that is to be
BE A REAL FAN- GUNS UP !!
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Why does everything have to be about race? This is a good hire of a coach with experience that has a name as well as a very wide recruiting base that includes the SEC and Big 12. I hope Ruffin stays on the staff but don’t think he will even if he is given the chance. Remember, Ruffin only has 2 years of experience at the coordinator level in D1/FBS football. Sure everyone loves him but does that make him qualified? I’m a nice guy, does that make me a qualified candidate to be the next head coach somewhere?
I seem to recall about 10 years ago when some guy named Leach came in and wanted to throw all the time and everyone was outraged and calling for his head! Give Tuberville a chance people, he has a lot of experience the we can benefit from.
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Hey – If all you Team Leach guys hate Tech so much just go support another team, and quit all this cry-babying. You sound like a bunch of old women.
(My apologies for insulting old women.)
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They weren’t dumb enough to hire Sonny Dykes, but they were dumb enough to hire a guy WHO HAS NO TIES TO TEXAS. Explain to me how this will help in recruiting Texas kids…anyone? Let’s hire a Big Southern Dummy with no ties to this state…another idiotic move from the Administration.
I knew Ruffin wouldn’t get the gig either…anyone who knows Gerald Myers knew that would happen.
Send Jim Sowell your thoughts about his part in the Leach firing: jsowell@sowellco.com
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1. Race had nothing to do with the hiring of the next coach.
2. New coach will have to clean house of coaching staff as they knew what Leach was doing and did nothing. Where is the ethics of the coaching staff??? Get rid of them.
3. The new coach will irgnore the winey leach babies.
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Just as long as he doesn’t hire Tony Franklin as the offensive coordinator things should be good.
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I split six season tickets with a group of guys…actually, let’s just say we USED TO split six season tickets.
We will not renew after Leach was run off. This hire is ridiculous (and expected).
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Goodbye Lubbock,
No ties to Texas huh? Why don’t you remind us where Tuberville coached in say… 1994.
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I hated it when Spike Dykes retired and Leach did a GREAT job upgrading the program! Now that Mike ihas lefty hopefully to USC or the Oakland Raiders! Tuberville will carry on and bring the Red Raiders to a higher level yet!
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The drawback to Tuberville is that he will jump when he thinks there is a better offer out there. Ask any Ole Miss fan. Tommy is not welcome in that state after he said he wasn’t leaving and the next day he was the Auburn coach.
I think he just wants to learn the spread offense the way Tech runs it and is then go back to the SEC.
If this happens, it is what Kent Hance and Geral Meyers deserves.
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Great choice.
Welcome to Lubbock Tommy Tuberville.
Facebook needs a new group: Team Tuberville – for those of us still supporting Tech Athletes and a New coach that is uninvolved in the current situation.
Wreck em
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MJ,
Where do you get your info on the Alabama LB coach coming here? James Willis? I see he used to be at Auburn under Tuberville.
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My family travels to Lubbock approximately two times a year for Tech games. We will no longer make those trips.
Boring hire…could care less about Tech football now.
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Bob Simmons at Okla. State was another black head coach in the BXII. And Leach had no head coaching experience either. Not saying that race played a part in this, but jkc was not entirely correct in his post. You know, Leach might not be the only one suing the university over this.
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AustinTTAlum…so bring in Holgerson for OC, if Tuberville jumps, Holgerson will be ready to step in.
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BIG SOUTHERN DUMMY.
If Tech does anything, he’ll bolt at a better opportunity.
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Red Raider ‘88…if you were referring to Ruffin possibly suing over not being hired. It will be too easy for Tech to show, on paper, where Tuberville is more qualified for the job.
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Time to move on as far as head coach, now it’s time to for Myers to retire!
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Mike Leach will be hired by Donald Trump to coach his team. Any bets?
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I think this will be a great fit for Tech! I’m excited & will always support the team. Supporting with other contributions is another story. The administrators still need to be replaced.
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If you’re a Team Leach fan, feel free to drop a line to person largely responsible for his firing (former Chairman of the Board of Regents Jim Sowell):
jsowell@sowellco.com
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It’s the White Southern Good Ol’ Boy Network showing Texas Tech’s true colors! I like to call it GOBNET!
Good ol’ fashion racism at it’s finest…sad to think its 2010 and this shee-ite is still happening!
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With this choice, I choose to dump my season tickets…
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W onder who made this choice?Craig James? Jim Sowell? The Regents? espn ? Spaeth communications? who ever it was there is a reason for it, wouldnt trust them making any choices, remember they are the same ones that Leach is suing and caused a big mess that should have stopped days ago, but Imwasting my time I can see , I wont forget Leach and what he did and what has happened to him,how soon we forget..
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don’t worry. he will be gone in two years as soon as another job in the SEC opens up.
is there anybody besides me wondering why he hasn’t been coaching?
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Tuberville spent the last year visiting other colleges that run the spread to learn about its nuances. He said he wanted to install a spread when he got back into coaching. Does that make you happy Raider Nation?
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Former Tech Fan said:
My family travels to Lubbock approximately two times a year for Tech games. We will no longer make those trips.
Boring hire…could care less about Tech football now.
I WISH I KNEW WHO YOU WERE SO THAT I COULD IDENTIFY YOU AND SHAKE YOUR HAND AT THE FIRST TECH HOME GAME.
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Who cares…………….I do i am split here because Ruff will be let go because Tubberville has already said the defense was terrible and needs to improve………..Yes Ruff may not have the experience but neither need Leach before he became head coach here…………And the way I see it is Leach is to blame for the defense because Ruffin had to work with the kids that Leach brought in recruting…Leach wasnt interested in the defense he always recruited offense players that could pad his stats and left the defense out to dry year in and year out…hoped his 50 points could beat the 50 he knew the defense was gonna allow. Also about Leach I could care less that he is gone…..BEST coach in Tech history…yes when u plat 4 games a year against Sisters of the Blind and Girl Scout Troop 241 u are gonna get your 5 wins a year….people will say yes thats what all big schools do know so they can get bowl eligible…..so before you start that look at the facts from this year…..Alabama played Virginia Tech week 1 and Florida plays Forida State year in and year out for nonconference..TAM played Arkansas, USC played Ohio State, Nebraska played Virginia Tech……Tech played North Dakota, Rice, Houston, New Mexico and has for the past 6 years played mainly no names….also i dont think leach was that much better than dykes….facts are facts…the last 6 years of dykes stay in lubbock he had a better win lose record against OU TAM and Texas than Leach and also Leach has only 3 more conference wins than Dykes did during his last 6 years….so i really dont see the great improvements stat wise that everyone thinks he has done for the team…I will have to wait and see what he new coach brings to the table but i may actually go watch a nonconference game that isnt against Florida International, North Dakota, Indiana State etc……….. Like I said i am split here but I will wait and see what happens and go from there give Tubberville and chance the same way i would have had Ruffin got the job……..Tubberville is a proven winner and we will see what he can do here…he may be the puppet in all this but can he win…we will all wait and see
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Great, great hire!!!!!!!
Now all the Team Leach memebers, he ain’t coming back, He is done.He ain’t going to USC, Orgeon St is not open. Get over your self and support Tommy. He stated he will keep the offense, now may our defense will be the same week in and week out. If the Leach supporters cannot back Tommy, go holler for someone else and be a pain in their a**.
Wreck em!!!!!!
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Hey, Upsidedown — the manager of my local Mcdonald’s was fired. Do you think that the good ol’ boy’s had somethng to do about it?
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I don’t understand why some people are so in love with a Leach? He could never win the big game on the road. He could never win a bowl game against a quality team. He almost always lost to teams they should have beat. Plus, Leach was always looking for another job at the end of every season. But people still love him. Grow up and get a life. For those who say they will not go to the games now. Good. More tickets for my friends and I. Some say they will lose recruits. Leach lost one several years ago that just won a national championship. I bet he is happy he changed his mind and did not have to deal with so many stupid fans in love with a coach who’s ego wrote a check his butt could not not cash.
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For those of you who think Tubes will stay at TT for 2-3 years to learn the spread and thn leave to go back to the SEC.
He is 55 years old, in three years he is 58 which is a little old to be jumping ship to go to another program. And which program would he go to? Ridiculous. He is here for the long run.
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I hope that the studio provides towels and rain jackets to everybody when Lou Holtz uses the phrase “Texas Tech’s Tommy Tuberville”. I’ll be trying to keep my flat screen dry.
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The Tech fans are going to look even more stupid at the January 14th rally to “save” Leach.
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Once you drop your tickets than don’t come back when they win the Big 12
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Tommy,
When you arrive into the Lubbock airport and walk outside, that smell isn’t the stockyards. It’s Gerald and Kent waiting to pick you up. Welcome to Texas Tech. We have no animosity toward you, just this horrendous decision our administration chose to make.
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I’ll miss Leach but fact of the matter is he’s gone and not coming back. Having said that, I attended Texas Tech and am a fan of Texas Tech (with the exception of Myers el al). Those of you cashing in your season tickets because you don’t like Tuberville can head down to the local Wal-Mart and buy a UT shirt because true Red Raiders fans will support the team no matter who’s running the show.
Thanks for everything Leach and welcome to the show Tubbs!!
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I have become embarrassed to be a Texas Tech alum. Tech must raise the standards on admissions because some real dummies have managed to attend Tech. A good list can be seen at Team Leach. The things that you folks believe and write ar mind boggling. It is so sad to see people who are blind to anything but winning.
Tech seriously considered Coach Ruff. This was no race decision. It was a no-brainer. It was a closer decision than it should have been. Hopefully Coach Ruff will stay. He is loved by all. He has become a great recruiter.
If tou are faced with the decision of whether to hire one person or another, and if you are really torn by that decision, what would be the very best decision? What if you could get BOTH? That’s what Tech hopes for.
The Leech tortured a boy needlessly and put his health and well-being in danger. The current players heaved a collective sigh of relief when The Leech was fired. This was communicated to the administration by team leaders. The Leech had become an uncontrollable egomaniac who was abusive to the team. He never praised in public and criticized in private. His interviews were a disgrace.
Coach Tubbs has the pedigree to absolutely take tech to the ne3xt level, and Coach Willis is a superstar. You will see that Coach Tubbs will welcome Coach Ruff, Lincoln Riley, Clay McGuire, and Sonny Cumbie with open arms for sure.
You folks bashing Tech need to wake up and smell the Tequila. Recruits read these message boards. You are damaging Tech.
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If you want to be a big program better not run off ANY fans. It take more than students, it takes more than students and alumni, it takes more than students, alumni and local community. It takes everyone to be a big time program!
Tubb has too many red flags that one should stop and ponder. Esp. his ESPN connections. We’ll just have to wait and seeig risk in my book. Ruff was safer bet and would have done more to heal the rift created…
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Since Tuberville is the new coach..let’s give him a chance..
Someone posted above that he has no ties to Texas..that’s not true
..somewhere he spoke of an “aunt” living in Seminole, either now
or past and that he visited there.
He also spoke of an uncle who graduated from Tech.
And coached for awhile at another school here in Texas..
Good gosh, I lived in Michigan for three years and I have a
lot less ties than that to Mich!!
RAIDER…………..POWER!!
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As an Auburn fan, I will tell you what you are getting with Tuberville.
Pros- Will not ever embarrass university.
Plays good defense.
Special teams are solid.
Will pull an upset over a better team every year. (Here it was an LSU or a Florida.There it will be a Texas, Oklahoma, Ok St.)
Cons- Got very lazy in recruiting.
Extremely conservative. (Has no problem winning a 17-13 game)
Will lose at least 1 game a year he shouldn’t. (At Auburn, he lost to South Florida, Miss st at home, Arkansas several times as a favorite.)
Verdict- He did go undefeated in 2004, 9-3 2005, 11-2 2006. Then he got very lazy in recruiting and finished up 8-4 and 5-7. By the way, that “boring style of football,” as one poster said has won 4 straight national titles so I would welcome it with open arms.
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Doesn’t change my opinion or my decision.
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Hey, WHOCARES, Before you trash Tech’s non-conference play, take a look at UT’s…UofH wasn’t a slouch this year, & had we played UT a little later in the season, with say, Sheffield, I bet we could’ve beat UT…
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He won in Lincoln which won against the #2 team. Oh wait McBrown found an extra second.
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1. McNeill has no grounds to sue Tech for not getting hired. No legal basis for it (yes, I am an attorney). 2. I believe Tuberville will keep much of the offense in place. He was trying to put in a spread offense in Auburn his last year there. Tech’s offensive coaches already know the spread better than anyone else, so it makes sense that he would keep many, if not all, of them I hope. Bring in Holgerson for OC! Not sure he would come, however. 3. Tuberville also has ties to West Texas – his mother is from Seminole. His sons are in 7th and 10th grades, so maybe he will not want to move at least until the younger one graduates from high school, giving Tech 5 years at least (if he is successful). All that being said, I am afraid this looks like the Tech hires of the 1970s – bring in someone from outside who will stay 3 years and be gone – see Jim Carlen, Steve Sloan….
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Those of you mourning the non-hiring of Ruff…he was NOT the best candidate of the 2
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Too all of you”former fans”, I loved having Leach here and he did wonderful things for our school, but he is gone and while it might not be right, it is fact. Having said this if we had to have new coach, then Tuberville was the best choice, regardless of color…for those of you trying to play that card. I am sure he is not dumb enough to want to take us to “smash mouth football”, so all of you worrying about that should just quit. To those of you declaring tech “dead” to them, and professing to “end your trips to Lubbock” I say good ridance. I have cheered for Tech football all of my life and I will continue to do so! I cheer for the kids, you know, the ones that nobody else wanted. I cheer for them to pull off the impossible and beat the “haves” from UT and everywhere else, and I will continue to do so!
Should Gerlad Meyers be fired? Of course he should for his part in embarrassing our University! Does that mean that we should turn our back on the kids that make up this program? NO!
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People who are saying that Ruffin wasnt hired because he is black are flat out wrong. THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WHY HE WASNT HIRED!!!!! Have you seen him or any of our other staff been mentioned for a HC job anywhere in the country i think not. Tech needed a guy who has been a HC and you can thank Leach for Tech having the ability of bringing TT to Tech. TT said he wants to keep the staff in place and not try to fix something that is not broke. The defense under Ruff was mediocre at BEST!!! I like Ruff and think he is a quality guy and could be a head coach for Tech or another D1 school one day but i dont think he fits what we need now. Ruff beat a MSU team that sucked and had eight starters out. We should have beaten them no matter what. TT gives our school instant creditability and he will help keep recruits… TT has ALWAYS had great Ds and as long as he keeps the offense the same I think he could take our program to another level…TT went undefeated in the SEC and has had SEVERAL NFL products that came out of his program…What can Leach or Spike say to that… WRECKEM and its time Raidernation unites….
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Its not about saving leach, its about right and wrong and doing what is right, something Im sure you and a lot of other people dont know about..
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@garyount Please shut the hell up and stay off these pages. I have read your ridiculous comments all week and you have been wrong every time your fingers hit the keyboard. Get your guns up or shut up!
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Great, now all parties settle, pay off Leach and get this behind for the sake of college football and TT’s future. I like Leach but if he will not take a reasonable pay out then he should be locked out.
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hope this is not the same mistake,that Tech made after Carlen left, another Steve Sloan? time will tell , you have to remember that this is Lubbock, not Austin or all those other nice places to go toor a big name university, we will see, pray for the best and expect the worst..
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Tubs? There goes the staff, the recruiting class, the next two years. This just proves the admin. had no plan beyond firing Leach beyond hiring Art Briles. Tubs is an ol’ smash-mouth guy who’s best days are behind him. TECH’S RUN IS OVER!
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Ruff is a good guy, but not a head coach. Tech was the only program looking at him in that light…tubbs will take this thing to the next level…for those of you screming for ruff, go do some gardenning or something as you probably know more about that than football…
Ask yourself this question…who would the other big 12 programs like to see tech hire? …ruff or tubberville?…the answer…ruff…
Tubberville poses more of a threat to UT and OU than Ruff
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Folks, everyone is looking for a better job. Yes, if he is successful, and I believe he will be, there will eventually be a power that hires him. That is the case with any coach that comes here, but it’s not like we are a bottom feeder. For those who don’t like the hire for that reason I have one question for you. Would you rather the new coach be unsuccessful? The only reason Leach stayed 10 years is because there was not interest in him from higher profile jobs. There probably should have been, but there wasn’t. I like Coach Ruffin, but in the end head coaching experience won out. I like the hire (that doesn’t mean I like the people who made the hire), as long as they keep relatively the same style offense. Now the hiring of the assistants becomes very important. Tubberville is a very good coach.
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Enough with the “I’m not supporting the Raiders anymore” crap.
If you bail on the student athletes who pour their heart and soul into the program, then you really were not worthy of being called a true fan in the first place Yes Leach was fired. He is gone and isn’t coming back. But the team is more than just Leach.
Protest, vent, pitch a hissy fit., then follow Leach to where ever he lands and cheer for him there. The good fans will still be here in Lubbock supporting the rest of the team when they are still playing football in Lubbock on Saturday afternoons without you.
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The Tech admin had a chance to heal the Raider Nation, keep continuity in the program, and maintain a very good recruiting class. Also had the opportunity to shatter a unfortunate Tech stereotype of racial prejudice in the process. It appears that the opinions of the alumni and players don’t count as much as Myers’ concerns that the other good ol boy West Texas Crackers of his generation wouldn’t want to play golf with Ruffin. I think Coach Ruff earned his shot, and has demonstrated his loyalty to TTU. Tuberville has demonstrated only his loyalty to himself, and if he (and/or his wife) didn’t like Oxford, Miss, then how long do you think they will last in Lubbock? And who couldn’t recruit to Auburn? Let’s see how he does recruiting as 4th banana against UT, A&M, and OK. The First DECENT season he has at TTU, he’s gone, I just pray that Gerald is gone by then for that hiring process. I guess the best we can hope for is he won’t quit in the middle of the season like Gerald’s last hire.
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too bad ,brent,now ill be on it even more!!
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How does he keep the same offense? – the best person (besides Leach) to game plan with the current offense and call the game is the offensive coordinator at the University of Houston (and previous TT offensive coordinator), Dana Holgorsen – refer to UHs offensive statistics this year as evidence.
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Tuberville is a good person. Good communicator for boosters. Average, conservatitve coach. I am happy he is not at Auburn. Very boring football. If he allows the current staff to stay you may be ok. If he brings in his BBQ buddies as we called them here in Auburn you are in trouble. Auburn did good with Tuberville when Alabama was down in their program(probation, bad coaching hires, etc.) He was able to recruit much better players during that time. After 2004 he didn’t recruit well and left Auburn in shambles. Hopefully for Texas Tech he has learned that it is better to be loyal to your employer than your BBQ buddies(assistant coaches) when you are not doing well on the field. Good Luck!
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@ garyount again: My apologies…….it appears that you did call for the heads of Myers, Hance & Baily, therefore my use of the words “wrong every time” would be incorrect. Now get on the ship or sail away, but the Raider Nation is heading forward with or without you. Wreck ‘em Tech!
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Excellent choice!! Was hoping he’d get selected. A proven winner! Will even be better if he keeps most of the current staff…especially McNeil & Riley.
Go Red Raiders!!!
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Mistakes that were made that might have made a real difference this year…….One. Leach getting in a war of words with Mike Sherman and running down A&M. Then, when A&M beat Texas Tech, Mike Leach went insane. Second, Ruff saying he was Mike Leach’s best friend told me that the higher ups wouldnt make a best friend of Leach head coach. And, I loved Coach Leach and I think Tommy is the right guy for the job. I love Ruff so pay Ruff well and make sure he stays. I still want Myers head on a platter….
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Coach Tuberville, Welcome aboard. We support you now…We, however, DO NOT support keeping little Adam on the team. He is a negative influence on the players, coaches & now fans…besides, he has no talent…please cut him.
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Hey ILUVPIRATES…i could care less about UT i dont support them….notice you brought them up so guess u were concerned about them…so since u brought them up i did a little research and lets see yes they played pansies this year i will give u that….but hmm last year they played Arkansas for nonconference…in 2007 they played TCU….2006 Ohio State…2005 Ohio State…2004 Arkansas……2003 Arkansas…2002 North Carolina…..tell me the main team Tech played the last 6-7 years in nonconference…wasnt trashing the team just the head coach that was afraid to step up to the plate and play anybody…i’ll give u that he was gonna play TCU next year b4 u start with that
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I like the hire. Hate to see Coach Ruffin go. Tuberville is a good coach.
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I hope Ruff doesn’t decide to leave as a result of not getting the job.
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well said mitchell!!
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I think you hire the person with the best qualifications. Ruffin simply doesn’t have the credentials (like sustained success as a defensive coordinator) to be a head coach at this level. Since Tommy T. wanted the job, he was the logical choice.
Winning breeds excitement; not wide-open offense. If the Raiders had been losing a lot of games like they lost the U of Houston game, I can assure you the excitement level among the TT fans would have gone down rapidly.
I think Tommy T. will have to stay with the current offensive system until he gets a few new recruits that might be more suitable to his preferred style (probably more than two years away). By then, hopefully we will have been so successful offensively that he will incorporate a lot of Leach’s system into his own system. But as the head coach, he certainly has the right to run the system that he believes in.
And even though I love what Mike Leach has done for Texas Tech these past 10 years, anyone that thinks USC or the Oakland Raiders would have any interest in Leach has a hugely inflated opinion of ML. USC gets superior players, so they don’t need to be unconventional. And trying to coach in the NFL with a playbook that was has about seven offensive plays would make him a complete laughing-stock.
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Tommy Tuberville “resigned” yesterday as the head coach at Auburn University. Unfortunately, no one bothered to tell his assistants, who were out on the road recruiting, completely unaware that they no longer had jobs. As you can imagine, their families are not too happy about that, so a couple of assistant’s wives did what anyone would do in that situation—call a sports talk radio show.
Donna Dunn, wife of d-line coach Don Dunn (Don and Donna Dunn?), called the local sports talk station to complain that her husband found out he had lost his job when the coach of a recruit he was visiting told him. Her son, who is a student at Auburn, found out when a classmate interrupted a presentation he was giving to tell him his dad was unemployed. All of the other coaches and their families found out from media reports or friends.
A sad, sad day for Texas Tech.
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Go to http://www.txgop.org & leave a message that we will NOT be supporting Craig James running for any office.
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Great Hire. A winner of the big games. It could be the next level. What a recruiter. Same old tech fans that want ruff, don’t be scared to go out and test the next level. Techs defense was mediocre, at best. The players will play hard for TT or they will sit and be replaced by better players.
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Folks, everyone is looking for a better job. Yes, if he is successful, and I believe he will be, there will eventually be a power that hires him. That is the case with any coach that comes here, but it’s not like we are a bottom feeder. For those who don’t like the hire for that reason I have one question for you. Would you rather the new coach be unsuccessful? The only reason Leach stayed 10 years is because there was not interest in him from higher profile jobs. There probably should have been, but there wasn’t. I like Coach Ruffin, but in the end head coaching experience won out. I like the hire (that doesn’t mean I like the people who made the hire), as long as they keep relatively the same style offense. Now the hiring of the assistants becomes very important. Tubberville is a very good coach.
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What about this one?
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Tuberville wasn’t my first choice, but I can get behind him. Let’s see what he can do with the recruits. Save 5 out of the 6 big time recruits, and it’s a win. Lose more than that, and it’s a failure. Anything short of 9 wins and the Cotton Bowl, and it’s a failure. I’m wiling to give Tuberville a chance, but I’m not going to expect less from him than I would from Leach. No honeymoon, in other words.
And if the AJ and/or Tuberville is looking for a positive impression, don’t talk about Bum Phillips. He never kicked the door in, remember???
It’s also funny that the public won’t be allowed at the press conference at United Spirit Arena. Gerald is a fraidy cat..
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garyount,
Let me say this so you will like and understand it better-
You are a loser and you should quit listening to that fat little wife of yours !
You are ONLY a suck up to the pirate. Continue to rant and root against Tech all you want- you arent a loyal Raider !!
Move on….and back to your hourly job !!
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I’m more a Red Raider than a lot of you on this post…this is a travesity what Hance, Bailey, Myer, and Sowell have done to my…Listen up you people who think because we are TEAM LEACH we are less a Red Raider…I’m a Red Raider. I grew up in the shadows of the Jones Stadium. I was there when Sloan took us to Florida, when Senor Sack was All-American, and when Dykes “hit it right on the nail”. I have been in the media booth covering the Texas Tech Football. I’ve walked the campus to make my classes in minus degree temps …I’ve paid my Tech dues.
I’m a Red Raider! And I will not stand for the disrespect the current Admin has shown to my school! I will continue to Strive for Honor Ever More!
I do not approve of the current decision to hire Tuberville. And I will NOT renew my season tickets or my contributions to the Alumni Association.
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You cannot play Tuberville “smash mouth” run the football at Tech against Oklahoma, Texas, and Texas A&M who will always have a notch bigger and faster athlete. Get ready to start losing 17-3, 24-10 etc.
Another DINOSAUR FOR JURRASIC PARK!
I am finished with Tech until Myers, Hance, and Board of Regents are replaced.
Lynn
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Who would give Ruff a better job? 1.5 years ago, he wasn’t even a DC.
“Same ‘ol Story’s” racist take is off-point.
I was NEVER in favor of Ruff. Has nothing to do w/ his being black. I would have supported the UofH coach, who is black, b/c he has good bloodlines (OU) and HC experience (UofH).
And Ruff’s D isn’t great. It’s so-so. Admittedly an improvement. But they gave up 31 to an avg MSU team missing players, 50+ to TAMU, UNM (UNM?) moved the ball, UofH passed ‘em silly. They held OU in check, although OU was missing everal players. Best D performance was against NEB, which has a pitiful (non-existent?) O.
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booster 32: You are my brother! Wreck ‘em!
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What a great hire!!!! Tuberville will shore up the defense and keep the offense going in its current scheme. Also…ppl need to move on from leach, he made a bonehead move, he is done
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Hello! Have you guys been watching tech defense since 2000? Coach Ruff has really changed the face of tech defense around. Their more of a swarming defense with the talent their working with. Brandon Sharp had a tremendous year for a player that didn’t get much playing time last year. It goes to show, that Coach Ruff has his players playing at their best and it was only getting better.
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My family and I prayed about it and God told us that Craig James is still scum and should be fired.
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I hope it has been made clear to him (Tubberville) that this is NOT a rebuilding effort – do not want to see/hear a news conference where he states ” that he needs to recruit a different type of player” or that it will take 3 years to implement his system. I believe Raider fans expect him to Win NOW
reference TAMU – they have been “rebuilding” for 6 years and they aren’t done……………
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Welcome back pedestrian offense.
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Since Briles was unavailable, sounds like the “suits” shifted to panic mode when they thought Tuberville might not be available if they waited and interviewed other candidates. And in typical fashion they will hold a “closed to the public” news conference tomorrow. Why the Spirit Arena? If the public isn’t invited, they could have it in one of the closets the James kid was in. Hope Tuberville does keep the offense. The Raiders under Leach brought excitement to the game. That will be sorely missed if a change is made.
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Some of us aren’t hung up on Leach, we just detest Myers that much. He needs to go, yesterday. Do you remember how he got hired. Most of the coaches at the time came out and publicly supported him, and the other guy withdrew. He was not fit for the job then, and is not now. I did find it amusing that he then had a hand in firing or running off almost all of those coaches, that is, he’s not too concerned about loyalty.
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You Tech fans that are still upset about Leach getting fired. GET OVER IT!!! You now have a much better coach in Tuberville. Educate yourself. Tuberville is going to bring in the SEC smashmouth football to Tech. I will now become a fan of the Red Raiders being Leach is gone. Nebraska has got a defense from h#ll and so will Tech.
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What y’all think?
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Good Luch Coach Tuberville!!! Welcome to Texas Tech! LONG LIVE THE MATADOR!!
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The defense was getting better under Ruff, and better players on the way. Hope he stays. Tuberville says he will keep the offense going. He tried it at Auburn and it was a disaster, but in fairness he did not have the players to run it. He does now.
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I’m quite surprised they didn’t hire Ruff— he would have been the cheaper choice. Re power: do the powers that be view TT as more “controllable” than Ruff?
Linc may very well be ready to be an OC.
What will Tubby bring? Better, more consistent defense; maybe we can play everyone as hard as we do Texas. Also, I’d like to see enough running game to be able to pound the ball from inside the 5 and to protect a small lead, and I think his SEC attitude will help there, too. The question, of course, is whether we can improve in these areas without falling off in others.
We are debating whether or not to renew our tickets; if the price jumps again, Tech will have made the decision for us.
We HAVE cut off our departmental donation, since the administration grabs OUR money, throws it into the general (slush)fund, and then THEY decide how to spend it, despite the fact that we earmark it for a particular department. Their contempt for us seems unbounded.
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Tuberville was 85-40 at Auburn. What was Texas Tech’s record during the same time frame?
Time to bury the Pirate “persona” and “mystique” forever. Can you imagine a first-class coach like Tuberville wearing that silly regalia?
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Kansas wasn’t duped by Tommy Tuberville, but it appears that Texas Tech was.
Tommy Tuberville has interest in Kansas job
December 11, 2009 by admin
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Former Auburn and Ole Miss football coach Tommy Tuberville would like to hear from Kansas athletic director Lew Perkins about the open KU job, Tuberville told The Star on Thursday. Tuberville, who led Auburn to a perfect season in 2004, said he had been contacted by some other schools about their vacancies but wasn’t interested. “Kansas is a good program,” said Tuberville, 55. “It’s in a conference that you can compete in. It’s really come leaps and bounds over the last few years, going to the Orange Bowl a couple years ago. Obviously, Kansas has made a reputation in basketball, and that’s great. But I think that can just help the football program. You can win in both sports.” – Kansas City Star
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Pete Carroll 59
Nick Saban 59
Mack Brown 59
Jim Tressel 57
Mike Sherman 54
Tommy Tuberville 55 is not a dinosaur.
Wreck ‘em Tech!
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People you have not seen what TT has said.. THE OFFENSE WILL STAY THE SAME!!!!!! this guy can make our Defense 10x better than what it is now… which is mediocre… This is a great hire who HAS TEXAS TIES!!! Get over Leach and the admin they both screwed up … Both of them made our school look like it was ran by a bunch of drunken teenagers and they both suck.. Leach NEVER CARED ABOUT TECH he only cared about himself… Everyone can come up with lists of things that he did which were not in the best interest of our school. The administration the same thing… Leach never won a Big 12 south or Big title or a National Championship.. He was an average coach at best and I am excited to have a top notch RESPECTABLE coach…
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Tommy Tuberville talk streaming live at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/streaming-sports-show
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As an Auburn Alum and former Tiger, I speak from experience in telling you that Coach T will bring very good teams to Tech and a work ethic that you will be very proud of. He has a very rigorous work ethic that, as you will see, will be contagious to his players. The 5-7 season Coach T had in 2008 came after academic issues as well as key injuries to offensive personnel. He chose not to coach in 2009….it wasn’t because of a lack of interest in him. The best advice I can give to the team is to hold on to your tails because you are going to experience extremely intense workouts!! Good Luck and Tech definately has the right person for this job.
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Enough with the “I’m not supporting the Raiders anymore” crap.
If you bail on the student athletes who pour their heart and soul into the program, then you really were not worthy of being called a true fan in the first place Yes Leach was fired. He is gone and isn’t coming back. But the team is more than just Leach.
Protest, vent, pitch a hissy fit., then follow Leach to where ever he lands and cheer for him there. The good fans will still be here in Lubbock supporting the rest of the team when they are still playing football in Lubbock on Saturday afternoons without you.
Mikey-Likes-it….I totally agree 100% with your above comment & couldn’t have said it better myself. I don’t like the way Coach Leach was fired but he’s gone and he’s not coming back. It’s time to support the Red Raiders on their upcoming football season. I’m not able to attend the games in person but I always watch them when the games are televised on TV and I will continue to do so. WRECK EM’ TECH!!
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Great hire. Anyone that keeps up with SEC football knows that even their worst teams of any given year could beat most of the best teams in any other conference. Ruffin may be a nice guy and that is why the players want him but do you really want a HC that could only get the defense he was in charge of to show up 2 out of 3 games??? I think I will stick with the guy who has led a team to an undefeated season in colleges premiere conference over a guy that is nice that the players want. When I was in the military nice superiors only accomplish getting you lazy or killed. I am glad I was in the units where hard nosed Commanders and NCO’s kept you alive and among the best the Army had to offer. US Army Rangers Lead The Way. Now let’s go get the damn Big XII Championship. Wreck ‘Em Tech.
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Tech gets a excellent coach and you people still complain!! His biggest challenge, fair weather fans!!!!!!!
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Good hire by TT. I think Tubbs will certainly make defense better because he is an excellent defensive coach. I watched
him coach here in SEC for years and he did an excellent job turning the Auburn and Ole Miss programs around. If Saban
does not come to Alabama, Tubs still at Auburn. The TT program is in pretty good shape now and Coach TT will make it better. I think Coach TT was waiting for the right situation to come along and I think Tech is a good fit for him.
I think there are a lot of other coaches in the Big 12 that did not want to see him at Tech. Word in Alabama is that James Willis who is presently linebackers coach at Alabama will follow Tubbs to Lubbock. I expect there will be other staff changes as well. I think he will pretty much keep your offense in place and let his OC run the show. He is a CEO type guy.
I hope Tech fans stay behind the program and support the hire. When you get an SEC type defense to go with that offense
Tech will be hard to handle. In my opinion a pretty good football program just got better.
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Tubberville is a good choice I would consider him a big time coach, with his defense background he can make our defense better. I hope Coach Ruff does not take it personal, Ruff is a great defensive coach, Ruff and Tubbs double teaming the defense, look out Big 12 !!!!!!
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If the public won’t be allowed at the press conference to introduce Tubby, why don’t they hold the intro in the electrical closet??
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Tuberville just wanted a job, he was trying to get that job at USF if he didnt land at tech! hes been unemployed, because no one wanted him!! He will fire Ruff, Its still a sad day for TTU!!!
Should have gave Ruff the chance, team was behind him Lubbock was behind him……like someone said early, they didnt hire Ruff because he is black!! Lets face it, the stooges are not looking out for ttu!!
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WHOCARES, I did a little checking my self about strength of schedules in the years you mentioned…seems like Tech does no worse than any of the “power” teams…just saying.
Strength of schedule rankings:
2002: Tech-8, UT-20, A&M-11, North Carolina-85
2003: Tech-25, UT-31, A&M-5, Arkansas=27
2004: Tech-5, UT-3, A&M-10, Arkansas-38
2005: Tech-79, UT-11. A&M-28, Ohio St-3
2006: Tech-18, UT-41, A&M-26, Ohio St-35
2007: Tech-66, UT-34, A&M-18, TCU-70
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Tuberville is the choice. I’m betting on him and hoping he will pay dividends!
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Way to go Mr Myers. Are you A relative of Obama and not listen to anyone. I hope they fire you next. Good luck Ruffin and I hope you go to a class school.
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Howard,
If that is the case Adam James better transfer now.
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Ruff knows know that he has to leave, after the way he humiliated himself for the administration and they spit in his face, he will be looking for a job.
It is hard not to like Ruff, but the fact that he was willing to sell out tells me he was not the right guy for the job.
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Excellent choice by Tech! Go Raiders and looking forward to some great football! 5 division titles, 1 conference title, 1 undefeated seaon and 8 bowl games in the last 10 years. What did Leach do in the last 10 years. Leach got us to the next level and Tuberville will continue the trend and take us to the next. Very excited about Tech Football.
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We’ll see how big time he is on September 18th. No excuses.
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I hope Ruff stays on. Tuberville can teach him a lot. Tuberville had some great defenses in the SEC. Ruff had no one to learn from under Leach. If he stick around I think in a few years…he will have the experience to move up to a head coaching job. He isn’t ready at this time.
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Tech got a coach. Why would a press conference by closed to the public. Is the administration afraid there will be protests. I know nothing about him, but the big thing now is that we need to work on the administration. We need to get the state government to look into the goings on around chancellor Kent (republican lobbyist) Hance, his good buddy that he hired Alberto (I can’t remember) Gonzales, Guy Bailey and AD Myers. Also , what is the relationship between Hance and Sowell.
Is it true that Craig James will be calling the plays next season, assuming he is not elected senator?
Has anybody heard whether Adam (cry baby) James is going to register next semester or if he will take the semester off because of his concussion?
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I like the hire. I like Ruff, too. I hope he stays. We need to try to keep the current recruits. I usually go to a few games a year. I will be there next year. I loved Leach and I think he was screwed. Myers needs to go, the sooner the better. I hope we can all pull together. I think if Myers resigned or was fired most of the problems would go away. Hance will not be leaving he has been to good a fundraiser. Bailey played a minimal part in the fiasco in my opinion. Good luck Tommy and welcome to Lubbock.
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Wonder how he puts up with slackers who don’t like to practice much & fake injuries?
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We’ll cover the Tuberville’s press conference tomorrow http://www.ustream.tv/channel/streaming-sports-show
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As much as I wanted Coach ruff, I’ll support Tech and Tuberville. but I absolutely HATE Myers and Craig James and his sissy son.I’m also sick of espn and their bs.
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Tuberville just might work here at Tech! I am a HUGE Mike Leach supporter, but at the same time I am also a HUGE Texas Tech sports fan! We need to come together and get ready for the excitement of the 2010 Red Raider football season! AWESOME Offense under Sheffield next season and a Tuberville Defense! Get your Guns up Red Radier fans!!
LONG LIVE THE MATADOR!!!
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Randy-
Ruff does NOT ‘have to leave” and he did NOT “sell out”.
Ruff led Tech AT THE BOWL GAME THAT TECH WON !
The ones that quit on Tech are those saying they wont support Tech in any manner……many of em TEAM LEACH MEMBERS
Leach had ten years to win a championship and could NOT. Meyers may not be a great A.D. but he gave Leach a sweet line up every year full of crap non conference teams with losing records. Dykes had to play against the USCs and Tenn. etc and his conference record the last 6 years he was at Tech were BETTER than Leach’s last 6 years,
Tuberville is the MAN and can lead us to a CHAMPIONSHIP…..not just get attention for himself. I NEVER liked this pirate crap or that Leach promoted himself over his players. Its been McCoy and his Longhorns, etc etc and when Tech was mentioned it was ALWAYS Leach’s Red Raiders. Leach had a P.R. guy that promoted him as one of the game’s greats….but he has never won a championship !
Tech is FINALLY getting there ……and so many of you Team Leach guys are going to continue to miss it !
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I wouldn’t imagine it to be a secure and hopeful position, coming into a situation where someone was robbed of their coaching position for clearly political and financial reasons. Just knowing that the top dogs of this university would do this to such a beloved coach or to any faculty member or TTU employee is enough to make Tubbs wonder if he’s just leaped into the snake pit in Lubbock, I’m sure… I imagine knowing that puppeteers of Tech have recruited you, is also not something sweet to swallow as you board the plane for Preston Intl’ Airport. It must be an unsettling acceptance for him to imagine looking up above the strings, behind the curtains as Gerald, Kent and a few others work the marionette strings…. Tubbs, I’m sure you’re a great guy but you are walking into a situation where high level administration abuse their employees and look the other way when there is wrong doing. This is a school that has not always been in bad shape, but is most certainly, in bad shape right now because of mismanagement of employees all across the board, from all departments, down all of the lines. Tech trains their lawyers to first deny wrong doing, instead of ethically looking at the evidence and for solutions. This infiltrates the integrity of the university. That matters. They look the other way to wrong doing and frankly, thousands of people are tired of it. Leach was the LAST STRAW in a large expanse of deeply buried, broken backs. If this happened to Leach, it could happen to you… It is happening to other employees who won’t carry the national headlines to get justice. Think about it. Do you really want to jump aboard such a poorly managed school that doesn’t care about it’s own employees? Leach found out the hard way. Think on it before you leap. I urge the school leaders to humble themselves and correct the mistakes they’ve made. Own up to it and show the students of the school what it’s like to admit fault when it’s due. Maybe they will too one day when it’s required. Tech execs didn’t give Leach a fair hearing. They don’t treat their employees fairly.
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IF his age does not make him a dinosaur than his offense will! His is a good solid coach but I think will fall flat on his face a TECH…..Then maybe the three stooges will have to do something that they have seemed to been immune to thus far…….BE ACCOUNTABLE!
Regards,
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This is a great hire. I am apalled by the negative comments about the team on this website. I am a Tech alumnus not a Mike Leach alumnus. His firing was justified. You know what. We have attorneys too! Tech will win in court . Leach is not going to be hired by a big time program. He carries too much baggage. Hire Sonny Dykes as a/c and keep Ruff as d/c. We can not wait for the season to start. WE are behind you Tech 100%.
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Texas Tech got it right! Tuberville is perfect. He’s not only a good coach, he’s HUNGRY to get back in the game! He’ll make it work! After all of the negative publicity, this is absolutely the right decision. For all you people who are turning in your tickets, there are hundreds more ready to purchase them.
I’m writing this from several hundred miles away from Lubbock, and I can tell you for sure that no matter how much you liked Mike Leach he was becoming a liability, not only because he thought he was above the administration, but because he was beginning to get just a little weird. All that pirate nonsense doesn’t play well everywhere. It was beginning to get really, really, really old.
Texas Tech needs not only the expertise that Tuberville will bring but it needs his image. I am glad to see his face on Texas Tech football.
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The ship of fools strikes again they had the perfect fit on staff but they could`nt see it. Say goodbye to this great recruiting class as they will flee like cockroaches when the light comes on.
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Well, this is an interesting decision. Tubs will take TT down to the depths of the conference, probably below Baylor, before he is rewarded with a contract extension. Good job getting a lap dog, Mr. Hance.
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As both a TTU and AU alumi I have to say that this is the best thing for TTU. I worked in the athletic department for both universities and very close with Tubs and he will bring class, which Leach NEVER had to TTU. He is not an ego maniac like Leach. I see a lot of comments on here saying ” remember this is the BIG XII and not the SEC but correct me if I am wrong but over the last 5 years the SEC has 4 BCS National Championships and back in 2005 he lead the TIGERS to and undefeated season. Yall need to compare apples to apples. Also, when TTU went up against the SEC in last years cotton bowl what was the score????? The SEC got the VICTORY!!!
If any of you that are making these negatitive remarks had any smarts you would think before you spoke.
Be a READY AIM FIRE kinda of person not a READY FIRE AIM
I am now glad to say ” GET YER GUNS UP”
All the best TUBS!!!
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No matter how good a man or coach Tubbs is…no matter the ticker tape parade…
FOREWARNED: SNAKE PIT. End of Story. TONS OF CASUALTIES, SOME BURIED, SOME STILL FIGHTIN FOR THEIR BASIC RIGHTS.
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Leach promoted himself more than his players? I’ve never seen a coach do more to try to help the national exposure of a player than Leach did Graham Harrell and Michael Crabtree. College coaches are often known better than most of the players because the players are gone after a short period of time. And Spike played some of the bigger schools because that was the only way we could draw a big crowd. People came to see the other team. It was also before the BCS. Leach certainly had some flaws, but most of what was just mentioned was not correct.
Let’s go Tubs and Tech. I expect a lot, and no excuses.
9 or 10 win regular season at least.
Graduation Rate leading the conference.
Not expecting anything more than I would have expected from Leach, or Ruffin for that matter.
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Imagine a Tech Defense improved by Tuberville, and it becomes one of the best in the Big XII.
Assume that the Offense is still the “Air Raid” – and impossible to stop. Where does that leave us ??
On top of the Big XII and a top 5 rated team in Div I football. Lets move onward & upward… GO TECH !!
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Jon, the web site tou gave us, this guy is a idiot
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Fire Gerald Myers with cause!
There were only two candidates? One of them was in-house.
Fire Kent Hance!
Fire Guy Bailey!
Then maybe Tech has a chance at success.
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We have a fantastic coach now. Tommy will take us to the next level. Great hire!
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Great Job Myers…… You did something right ……… I hope we can afford him and you arent planning on running away in may when you contract is up…… Tubbs can take us to the next level,….. he has the savvy that leach didnt have and he has a great defensive mind….. there is no need to score 30+ points a game when you have a defense that holds opposing offenses under 14 a game and scores a touchdown on their own!!!
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Could this had been the plan all along—before Leach was officially fired?
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Bob what are you smoking? Have you seen his record or do you understand football? or are you just chanting a rant because you were on the Brilles wagon?
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Tommy Tuberville talk live, http://www.ustream.tv/channel/streaming-sports-show
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I would love to see the offense stay the same and not skip a beat. However defense wins championships and Tubby knows defense. Smart hire.
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booster32
Ruff said he trusted the administration to make the right choice.
How did that work out for him?
They chose the only candidate that wasn’t him.
When he said he trusted the administration, he in essence said they did the right thing in firing his “best friend”.
When asked if he wanted his best fiend’s job, he said “yes double yes” .
He has to be humiliated by his actions, I know I would be.
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Great hire !
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You guys are on C-R-A-C-K if you think the weird Al Yankovich of College Coaches is gonna get snatched up by the likes of USC or the Oakland Raiders. LMAO……Team Leach may soon see how “The Nutty Professor” overplayed his hand when none of the Athletic Directors with decent D1 jobs don’t come knocking on his door. Dont’ get me wrong now…..I still hate how this all got started. I think the James Gang are sacks of $%#*! Lots of blame to be spread among several players in this little Hub City Drama. Good Luck TT and please bring a razor and some soap to clean that bunch of outlaws up.
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Can we afford to keep him his entire contract, or will they fire him before his bonus is due also?
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Will the new coach be able to finally cut Adam & daddy from the team?
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whats going to be funny is when all these bandwagon fans just off and then come back after TT turns TTU around to be an amazing football team. image a spread with a SEC D thats awesome!
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NO MORE RACE CARD…tubbs has experience and has been a part of two undefeated teams…ruff has 2+ years of DC experience…let him go to a smaller school to get HC experience..I dont want TTU to be the school where he cuts his teeth….Nobody else will consider Ruff for HC..that should tell you something….Seriously….Ruff is a good guy…he should stay on and learn from tubbs…get a life or move to california if you want to play race card..this isnt the 50’s
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I agree with Ron. I will support Tech and the Red Raiders. I hope Tuberville will keep the coaching staff and the incoming freshman will stay. If not we are in for a long few years, Good luck raiders and coach Tuberville, Fire Myers and the good ole boys club.
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One thing I can say for TT fans is that we are spirited! Too bad we take it out on each other.
I remember back when it was TT College and they tried to fill the stands by having all the local Jr and Sr High Schools bands come to a game. It didn’t work. Yet still everyone there yelled and screamed for our Red Raiders to win. They did. We need to support our team and cheer for them no matter the coach or how poorly Tech management has handled things.
For those who feel we have more to do than just complain about things, then we have to decide how we are going to handle it. I personally feel Leach should not have been fired, at least without due process. I feel the TTU admin handled this whole situation very poorly no matter the view of Leach. I feel this is indicative of how they handle all the schools and all the campuses including athletics. I feel there is a LOT more to be discovered regarding the James family; Spaeth Communications and political promises made. I feel I have only two ways to bring attention to the problems. 1) Support “Team Leach”, not from a get Leach back standpoint but to keep constant pressure on Hance, Bailey and Myer. 2) I have put my donations for Tech in escrow. Once things are settled I will then release them to the school. I will still attend games and wear my TT clothes (only ones I already own). I want the world to know what a great school Tech is and I want Tech to beat the world in ALL sports, not just football. I strongly believe the only way to achieve this is to replace at least Hance and Myers and ban Jim Sowell from any involvement in Tech management in any way.
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Please stay, Ruffin!
I would love to have Coach Tuberville, YOU, Lincoln Riley, Carlos Mainord, and Dana Holgersen all here on staff?
That would be great, wouldn’t it??
Enough with the Team Leach stuff.
Let’s support the team that’s in Scarlet & Black!
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TT is a great hire for Tech. Better than I thought they could do. Please remember, Leach never won the Big 12. Tuberville won the much tougher SEC and had an undefeated season. He is defensive minded, which will only help Tech. Coach Ruff seems like a great guy and good motivator. His defense though has never been better than mediocre. Hopefully Coach Tubbs keeps the offensive scheme in place. Hopefully Coach Leach gets a ton of money for the crap he has had heaped on him by the losers in the administration.
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LET’S GO TUBS!!! Hoorah, an adult is again in charge!!!
WRECK’EM TECH!!!
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Randy;
Ruff trusted Tech would make the right choice and they DID !
Ruff stepped up in San Antonio……he did the RIGHT thing ! So did the players- would you rather them all QUIT ?
I think its time to move on. If “TEAM LEACH” wants to continue…..focus on HELPING TECH WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP.
Leach threatened to leave every year for 10 years. Lets see now if anyone wants the pirate…..
This was a mess and could have been avoided except for ONE MANS INSANITY. This suit too could be settled except for ONE MANS INSANITY……THE PIRATE argggh
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After playing in front of 70,000 seat full stadiums regardless the opponent in the SEC for so many years Tubs is going to think he’s at a Thursday night JV game between Crosbyton and Ralls when the Raiders line up against South Toolshed State in September with all of about 30,000 loyal Raider Fans in the house.
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Welcome to Lubbock, Tommy T! I am very excited about the possiblities under your leadership! Let’s win the Big 12 Champ in 2010!
Wreck ‘em Tech!
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Truly , hope that this hire is a good choice and I hope it turns out well, but in the meantime we dont lose focus on the 3 stooges, I hope this hire is not a pr stunt to sweep all the garbage under the rug,if the offense stays the same and keep the current staff , that would be great, the recruits that are coming in were recruited for the system Leach employed, I hope we keep the continuity that we have now, I am a passonate fan , and I have always beena Red Raider and will continue ti be, good and bad but I do not like to see someone get railroaded that has done a lot for Tech and the people responsible for it get by with it, it sticks in my craw so to speak, hope it will turn out good in thend , the few days and weeks will tell. and by the way I dont have a fat wife and Iam retired..
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Tuberville is a great hire and he will make Tech a better football program, especially with the schedule he has in 2010.
The administration just has to be thankful that Tub was interested in Tech.
They were in no way ready to pay 2 mil per year, but they had to, that was the only way they could save face.
Tuberville is going to cost Tech twice as much and ticket prices will go up to pay for the difference.
The Leach process was handled terribly and without any thought on the administration and now it is going to cost all of us and the administration knows it, just like the govt stick it to the tax payers.
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Tommy Tuberville is an excellent choice for TTU. There are more than 30 former Aurburn players in the NFL, maybe 10 or 11 from TT – so much for Leach the recruiter. Prepare for bigger, faster, stronger teams.
Perhaps you watched the Alabama-Texas game. Defense won that game for Alabama. Auburn had defenses like that under Tuberville (beat Alabama SIX times in a row – equivalent to Tech or A&M beating UT 6 times in a row). It’s hard to say when the Big 12 quit playing defense, but TTU is going to have a defense. It will probably take a year or two, but you can forget about those 65-21 humiliations (when ranked #2 in the country).
Coaching staff is probably lucky Tuberville doesn’t have an intact staff. He would likely replace everybody, and he might anyway. You can also say goodbye to the cult of personality surrounding Leach. If you are a Leach lemming, just keep swimming – he’s already over the cliff.
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Have we asked craig james if okay or does his son get another playbook!!
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I would ask any young man considering playing football at Tech just one question.
Have you seen Lubbock in broad daylight while sober?
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booster32
I respectfully disagree:
There was no formal coaching search.
Tuberville would not have been on the list if he had not come begging for the job.
We hired the only candidate not named Ruffin McNeil.
The firing was handled very poorly.
Our administration looks like buffoons.
Think back to how this started- a misbehaving child was put in timeout, no other school in the country would fire or suspend a coach on the that basis.
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Golfwoody has a conscience and is very methodical and rational with his plan….I like that Golfwoody feels he or she has the power to stand against the establishment for what is unacceptable but the honor not to bail from the support of the school in some ways. That’s what I mean too. It’s not an attack on the school you love to not accept wrong doings that occur in it. It means you truly love and support it, in fact and are not a FAIR WEATHERED TECH FRIEND. If you support the school, you support the way the upper level establishment treats the employees and you protest wrong doings in an effort to make things better for others… that means the guy in the parking booth, the student interns, the students, the receptionists, the teachers the administration support people and historic great coaches deserve fair consideration. Every one of those souls and more deserve to be heard. They deserve fairness. If Tech is wrong, then they should go back and make it right. The Snake Pit Puppeteer Club has allowed many buried cases of poorly treated employees throughout the schools, in many departments. Many of these people have fallen by the wayside. No justice for them. The school’s leaders and legal teams have looked the other way when people with less clout have begged them to correct mistakes and do the right thing. Some are fighting for their rights, right now… like Leach. And some employees never had enough money or ability to fight TTU’s unethical lawyers, leaders and instant execution-style posse. Support your school. Fly your flags high. Welcome a new coach, if you like, but do everything you can think of to JUST SAY NO TO POOR TREATMENT OF TECH EMPLOYEES, no matter what position they hold. Tech is only as good as it’s people. If we allow people to be treated badly, then we don’t love our school.
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All of you that are saying smart hire, I am saving these posts can I can publish them again this time next year after Tech completes on of the worst years in Tech history…..
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Guy Bailey said they would hire who the players wanted. Yea right! Tuberville may be fine, but why not give Russ a chance.
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My biggest worry is that Ruffin McNeil ends up the big loser in this deal. He deserves to be kept on staff. Leach has screwed over his assistant coaches.
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The Leach is an attention whore. Tuberville will coach with dignity and I imagine considerable success. His past success will be attractive to recruits. He knows how to work with people rather than against them like The Leach was prone to.
Under The Leach, Tech ran up big scores and always lost enough games to never win a Championship. Folks, Tech has never, ever won an undisputed/unshared football championship. For the live of me, I cannot understand why this was good enough for the fans of The Leach. He grew fat and prosperous on a record that has “also ran” written all over it.
Other schools will regret that Tuberville went to Tech.
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If Tuberville is such a great comodity, why did he stay unemployed for so long?? 22 coaching changes in the NCAA last year and not one of those schools even interviewed Tuberville…Turberville fits in with the rest of the good ole boy WHITE establishment int he Tech athletic offices! It was definitely a RACIAL decision….
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for the love of god Tuberville….please start Sticks over Potts. Potts stands around with dumbface and slows the office down way too much. Sticks has an energy and a spark that the offense needs.
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Wow this reminds me of when Bobby Knight came to Tech…….I must have missed it when he took us to a Championship!!!
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I wish Tommy good luck. Has he gotten a direct phone line to Craig James’ house yet?
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I am SOOO TIRED of the black athletes being exploited for the good of the WHITE COACHES! DISGRACE…and no one can dispute it! Ruffin McNeill deserved a chance to coach this team. SAD DAY IN LUBBOCK, TEXAS! SAD DAY IN AMERICA!!!
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Maybe Tommy will hire Alberto (I can’t remember) Gonzales as an assistant coach next year and he can be Adam (cry baby) James’ personal assistant
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The administrators at USC are kicking themselves now because they don’t get a chance to interview and hire Tuberville!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
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Painfully Obvious -
The reason the last 10 years of at least going to bowls is so pleasing for so many is the previous decades of not even going to bowls. To win the Big 12 we have to beat UT and OK in the same year. We are now in a place they actually have to take us seriously, not so for so long. We have to beat the champions by playing like champions – with a powerful offense AND a rock solid defense. I liked Leach. He took over a team that did not have a winning attitude. The talent we had could not compete with the other Big 12 teams by just trying to do what they were doing. He gave us something different. Yeah, all offense all the time, but at least it was different. Now other teams are copying Tech’s offense. His shortcoming was he did not know what to do about defense. Until he turned it over to Ruffin, there was NO defense. If we can maintain our offensive power and Tuberville/Ruff give us a champion level defense then we may have been upgraded. The good point about your statement is that you are looking forward.
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Mike Leach & USC!!!! Better than any Aggie joke ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oh this article makes me feel good. Here’s dumb R.C. making these statements about what a great hire
this is and this comes from a man who recruited the best talent in Texas during his tenure and could never
compete for a national title because he tried to run the ball 50 times a game.
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This is a LOT like when Knight came to Lubbock & was introduced.
EXCEPT for the 10,000 cheering fans…..
PUBLIC NOT INVITED for Team Tuber.
This is an ELITE deal – invitation only.
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OK. I like Tubs but keep the Air Raid the same. As an American Indian, I sure wish we’d get hired for things like head coaching jobs, you know a real minority getting big time, big paying jobs.
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I heard from a reliable source that Gerald Myers has just signed a 3 year extension on his contract “under the radar”….And I thought nothing else the bone headed Tech Administration did in the STUPID category could surprise me!!! If true, this is pretty much a double middle finger from your leaders, Tech fans. And if they’re so proud of their new coach selection, why is it a CLOSED news conference tomorrow?? Only RATS (& the THREE STOOGES) continue to thrive in dark secrecy. Texas Tech students, alums & fans deserve to know the truth about ALL the current underhanded dealings going on.
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R C Slocum won more conference titles by himself than Tech has ever won in it’s history! Had #1 defense in the country several times.
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RC Slocum is a classy guy.
I remember one Tech game with A+M up 21 points and time running out, RC called a onside kick and then used his timeouts trying to score again.
He loves Texas Tech and only wants what is best for us.
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Eric Dickerson aint what he used to be; Magic Johnson aint what he used to be; Shaquille O’Neal aint what he used to be; Michael Jordan aint what he used to be; TOMMY TUBERVILLE – AINT WHAT HE USED TO BE….Tech messed up, again
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Hey genius Rob 1910:
why dont you go tell your boss to F off and see what happens to you…
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Some of y’all need to stop living in the past. The Leach is gone. Neither he nor Elvis are coming back. The future belongs to Tuberville.
Those of you wishing bad things for the university, its leaders, or any other part of the administration are about as sharp as a flour tortilla.
You support your school as a whole. Tech is not a cafeteria nor should its fans be treating her as such.
As for the Craigs. Damn, don’t y’all understand that Craig James is a celebrity and this continued mealy mouthing by the self-proclaimed loyal Tech followers only helps him. The old saying is: “Call me anything you want, but just make sure you call me by name.” Also: “There is no such thing as bad publicity in the entertainment business.”
In summation (as The Leach the Lawyer might say):
Tech: Love her or leave her.
The Administration: Grow up and move on. You are only hurting recruitment with your childish ranting.
The Leach: Yesterday’s News. The Leach is a marcisist. He never loved Tech….only himself.
Tuberville: The Present and the Future.
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shane:
yeah, youre right. i remember leach talking at length on 60 minutes about crabtree and harrell. On the cover of texas monthly, about these guys. Oops, no he didnt. He was just talking about him and his enormous ego.
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R.C. was a good coach at A &M but he couldn’t beat Tech that much…it’s amazing how no one can be satisfied…complaints about hiring Tubervile, if it had been Ruffin same thing…everyone grow up and support Tech and let’s see what happens. Leach wasn’t the savior of Tech football….just an innovative offense, still had trouble with recruiting and that is the name of the game.
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Players almost always will want someone they know & have played for.
TT will do a great job.
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Welcome Tubby. Now we must get rid of that stuff floating in the bowl….Meyers,Hance,Bailey,Regents, James baby and daddy,then we will see if you are the right choice to replace a pirate. First you have to create a situation where you don’t have to watch you back on every turn. Brent and booster 32 get a room you girls are silly……………
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RC Slocum is a cla$$y guy.
I remember one Tech game with A+M up 21 points and time running out, RC called a onside kick and then used his timeouts trying to score again.
He loves Texas Tech and only wants what is best for us.
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Hance and Myer does not want a question and answer time after the announcement. There would be questions about Ruffin, and the Leach situation, and Spaeth Communications, and the James’ and so much more. This would be way too much to Aw Shucks their way through it.
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it’s a closed news conferenc because they don’t want all the “team Leach” people disrupting the event….makes perfect sense and it’s their perogative…it’ll be live on TV.
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Randy,
Well-established that was a muffed kick. So off to your basement room and stop bothering the adults.
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You Texas Tech folks need to be VERY happy about this hire.. I am an AU alumnus, and was very disappointed with losing him here. Tuberville is a brilliant leader, recruits awesome defenses, and is a proven winner in the nation’s toughest conference (SEC).
You guys will have an amazaing future – and believe me, I’m pulling for you all. I love Coach Tubbs. I figure atleast a 10-win season or better next year for you all. But, the Texas Tech nation needs to get behind him. He is an awesome individual.
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You guys complaining about not having a public welcoming for Tommy:
ITS TEAM LEACH THAT TECH IS TRYING TO HIDE FROM THE NATIONAL MEDIA
AN EMBARRASSMENT !!
Hope you realize you guys arent helping TECH !
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I am an Auburn graduate and fan. I want to congratulate you on your choice of Tuberville. He is a good coach and a good man. Most Auburn fans (my guess is about 85%) were very upset when he was fired. When Tuverville had a good offensive coordinator his teams were very good. Most of the time when saddled by bad offensive coordinators he managed 8 -4 seasons. Congrats to Texas Tech and I now have a Big 12 team to pull for.
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PainfullyObvious
Now I understand, your are an Aggie!
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Good words Chris….funny how everyone is an expert isn’t it ? The future is bright and would have been with Ruffin as well. And Hance, Bailey, and Meyers ain’t going anywhere so drop the silliness and let’s move on.
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say, “painfully obvious”..
No one is really urging and crying for Leach to be replaced…. any complaints that involve his name are from those who do not accept “execution without fair trial.” No one here is harping for Leach to be returned. I doubt the guy would ever come back. what people who support Leach want now is justice. Like it or not. It’s coming. You can’t treat employees like that and walk away. It doesn’t matter what you think of him as a coach or person, you can’t treat EMPLOYEES of a STATE SUPPORTED UNIVERSITY LIKE THAT. You can’t hang someone-careerwise-without a fair trial or because a few cronies like playing chess with the lives of the sports coaches in their spare time. The terrible decisions will cost the school a lot of money and we care about that too. We hold the leaders responsible for their “shooting from the hip” actions, with school lawyers allowing it to happen. You can have your opinion about Leach and that’s fine, so can others. But when it’s all said and done… the man was shot at point-blank range careerwise without a fair hearing or even an unbiased look at the facts. And we don’t stand for that regarding LEACH, and any American… or any employee harmed by TTU out there past or present. The dysfunctional Tech mismanagement and legal dealings are going to have to answer now to the continued injustices of school employees and coaches. The problem is not going away. Wrong is wrong. And Tech supporters should get behind—- making the administration at the top —-answer to the classless, ruthless way they handled this and other employees who have been wronged. It is a NATIONAL SHAME. TECH SNAKEPIT: MAKE IT RIGHT FOR THOSE YOU’VE WRONGED. Don’t look away this time…
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No one is really urging and crying for Leach to be replaced…. any complaints that involve his name are from those who do not accept “execution without fair trial.” No one here is harping for Leach to be returned. I doubt the guy would ever come back. what people who support Leach want now is justice. Like it or not. It’s coming. You can’t treat employees like that and walk away. It doesn’t matter what you think of him as a coach or person, you can’t treat EMPLOYEES of a STATE SUPPORTED UNIVERSITY LIKE THAT. You can’t hang someone-careerwise-without a fair trial or because a few cronies like playing chess with the lives of the sports coaches in their spare time. The terrible decisions will cost the school a lot of money and we care about that too. We hold the leaders responsible for their “shooting from the hip” actions, with school lawyers allowing it to happen. You can have your opinion about Leach and that’s fine, so can others. But when it’s all said and done… the man was shot at point-blank range careerwise without a fair hearing or even an unbiased look at the facts. And we don’t stand for that regarding LEACH, and any American… or any employee harmed by TTU out there past or present.
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Ruff – good at defense? WTF are you people talking about!
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where can one buy a tshirt that says:
LOSE THE TTU SNAKEPIT.
I’d like a case or two of them.
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NEW STATEMENT FROM THE JAMES FAMILY:
WE WILL BE THERE WITH ALL THE TRUE ELITES ON THE FRONT ROW, TO SUPPORT OUR LITTLE TUBBY AND OUR BELOVED SON ADAM.
COACH TUBER HAS ADVISED THAT ADAM MAY JUST SIGNAL HIM WITH A WINK ANYTIME HE FEELS A CONCUSSION COMING ON & HE WILL BE ALLOWED TO BE WHERE EVER HE WANTS, AND DO WHATEVER HE WANTS, AND WEAR WHATEVER HE WANTS.
YES, & DADDY WILL CHECK IN EVERYDAY ON DIRECT LINE TO TUBBY.
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Scott……..maybe you should go somewhere because I assure you Hance, Bailey, Meyer, and a couple rejects (regents) are going to go………this ain’t over yet……buba
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Rob 1910:
do you work for the ACLU? i loved Leach more than the next guy, but bottom line, his ego exploded the last few years, he lost control of his team, and he didnt respect nor recognize that he had a boss(es).
Probably not a good idea to drop an f-bomb on your boss, then try and challenge them in court. I think the word for that is insubordination. that will get you run every time, whether you are a head coach or a grocery store checker.
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I think Tuberville is a great choice. Just LEAVE what Leach had going on the Offense……….AND treat Ruff right!!
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Tuberville will be an excellent choice. His style of defense will help take us to the next level. I just he keeps Leach’s offense and makes Lincoln Riley the new offensive coordinator. Adam James needs to be kicked off the team before he betrays our new coach.
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WHO THE @#$% CARES! It’s TTU for godsake….third to fifth year and year out in the Big 12 south. The best they could do is Ruff or Tubberville? Speaks volumes people.
I think Leach will go to USC and all those assistance, especially Ruff, will be without a job and end up with Leach at USC.
In the end it will all be good for Leach and company and all of us West Texas gobbers will going to one game per year like we did in the 80’s and 90’s which is UT or aTm. Otherwise the stadium is empty except for those stupid saddle tramps ringing their bells.
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sports nympho a real live putz
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Scot, What makes you so sure Hance, Bailey and Meyers aren’t goin’ anywhere? Are you associated with the snakepit yourself? No high level employees’ position is sealed and certain. Case and point: Leach. The eject button works just the same for the snakepit if policies are violated.
Being an American, I refuse to think that these people in the snakepit have immunity from getting fired for LOOKING THE OTHER WAY FROM EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE BEEN BLATANTLY WRONGED or playing a part in policy violations themselves— ouch, that would hurt. Could happen. Those guys can be removed or overthrown just the same as anyone. They should be fearful of their jobs right now as many Texas Tech fans of the school across the entire nation are disgusted with their mafia methods.
NEW SLOGAN:
LOSE THE SNAKEPIT!
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the moderation feature on here is making posters angry, AJ. It’s filter is turned up too high or something. Back off and let people blog or they will go away… it’s no fun to put a thought together and then have it delayed, then popped up hours later making no sense to anyone. ha… come on now.. let the blog flow and let us talk about the issues.
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going to be alot of 3 and outs…bet his top recruit is a punter
best wishes to the tech staff and coach leach
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Rob1910 im getting through just fine. maybe they just want YOU to go away. take a hint loser.
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TRO: No, actually, I don’t work for the ACLU, but I guess I’m flattered if you think that I’m just being fair to all people. I am one who thinks the school is more than one department, one sport or one snakepit. I look at what I know to have happened in the past to other people and to what is happening to Leach… and others here have also witnessed … it’s a long trail of tears for Tech’s upper level and legal inability to look carefully at the situations and make good judgments based on facts. If that deserves a backhanded ACLU compliment from TRO, then so be it. I stand proud… and I’d like the SNAKEPIT TO either reform or go away.
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Tuberville is a great Coach and will take us to the next l Tuberville is no softee he is tuff and runs a tight ship. He is good at discipliniing his players love him and respect him. He is great with the fans.
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Bandwagon fans go home! I want a coach/team/and recruits that are committed to the school not just one guy!
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No, actually, wrong again TRO… I was noticing others here angry that their posts were moderated. What’s your deal? Someone suggest fairness to all and you fall apart… what part of what I’ve said do you not like… maybe start there… instead of personal attacks… Man-UP and try to stick to the issues and not name calling for lack of an opinion.
LOSE THE SNAKEPIT!
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TRO do want to give AD, ADMIN and Regents a pass on all this?
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Adam James will probably sit out a year. This ensures he does not do anything to shame dad’s senate run. He will claim it was because he was so mentally hurt by this experience his doctor recommends he skip a year. Then he will show up at a different school once the election is over.
If he stays then Tuberville is in a no win situation. If he plays Adam it will seen as payback for a “favor” or he has caved into the hovering dad (now senate candidate). If he does not play him, Tommy will be asked why . If it is because Adam was still not putting out effort, Tuberville will get hit with so many questions that will not be helpful to the team. He could also be fired for cause. (Just cause.)
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great hire
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Pirate hat for sale!!!
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TRO: FACT: If you only knew how many Fbombs were dropped among high level point people in the school, back and forth… words exchanged far worse than that, mind you… and none of these people were shot point blank at gunpoint careerwise. That’s a scapegoat and a cop out. CURSING? Are you for real… that is your idea of the reason this coach should have gotten the boot? COME ON DUDE!!!!! or DUDETTE…whatever… CURSING is why he deserved an execution without trial…? unreal…
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With the way the student section liked Leach, I wouldn’t be surprised if James doesn’t transfer before the Spring semester begins. I might even recommend it. He could finally do the right thing for the Tech football program.
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This is two separate issues. One the firing and hiring of a HC. Second is the handling, fumbling, mis steps, the National PR nightmare, the National embarrassment that was bestowed on TTU by the leadership, and the unanswered questions. The emails, etc. do not bother you ???
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hahah… Randy, that’s funny. You figured it out.
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I wanted Ruffin, but I think Tuberville will work out fine-IF he keeps the spread offense. Hopefully he may prove to be a lot more professional than the goober Myers that hired him. Perhaps this may be good for Tech. I’ll support Tommy, but I’m STILL on Team Leach and I STILL want Myers FIRED!
Question: If Coach Tommy T. bought the North Pole Express, what would they rename the train?
Answer: The “Tuberville Trolley!” Nyuknyuknyuknyuknyuknyuknyuk….(I can’t resist a bad joke, but notice that it’s a clean one!)
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good call Golfwoody… prob very true… agreed.
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Regarding the moderation filter -
I found that you do not want to use words like As(s)ume, As(s)ist, As(s)ociate, etc. As soon as I started adding little tricks all my posts have gotten through with no problem.
Apparently you can say hate, call your fellow Red Raider fans terrible names, and threaten people, but just do not put an “a” next to two consecutive “s’”.
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Scot, Curious… What makes you so sure Hance, Bailey and Meyers aren’t goin’ anywhere? Are you associated with the snakepit yourself? No high level employees’ position is sealed and certain. Case and point: Leach. The eject button works just the same for the snakepit if policies are violated.
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I just hope Myers, Hance & Bailey will let this new coach actually coach, and MOST of all: let him bring in ALL the assistant coaches he wants to, and from where ever.
He has connections with quality coaches from all over the south. What a waste if he has to stick with who’s here now.
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Rob:
you still arent listening. see if you can follow me. I think the best coach for tech is mike leach. But he’s gone. Time to move forward. No conspiracy theories. I know that taking responsibility for your own actions has fallen out of favor in this country, but Leach has no one to blame but himself. Read my posts again. Now that he is gone, we must move on and pick a new coach.
Tubs will take what leach built and take us to the next level. We have a top 5 offense and a top 50 defense. Get ready for a top 5 offense and a top 20 defense.
and yes i think adam james is a douche bag and should leave our university pronto.
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TT is keeping the spread at TTU……he has said that time and time again. thats why he got fired at AU. he wanted to put the spread in.
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Randi, let’s try it this way.
I can teach you about the Second World War, but that does not make me a veteran.
I can teach you about physics (I am a teacher), but that does not make me a physicist.
I can teach you about the cattle business, but I am not a cowboy.
I can teach you about football (I’ve been following Texas football for nearly half a century) and that does not make me an Aggie.
So your a$$umption is baseless.
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HAVE YOU EVER FORCED YOUR BOSS TO GIVE YOU MORE THAN HE BELIEVED YOU WERE WORTH? AFTER THAT DID YOU FIND YOURSELF LOOKING OVER YOUR SHOULDER? DID YOU EVER LET YOUR TEMPER OVERCOME YOUR BETTER JUDGEMENT AND YOU WERE TOO BULLHEADED TO LET IT GO?
MEET MIKE LEACH
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Scot, I’m teasing with you about the snakepit of course. Tho– I don’t understand how you could think with the meltdown right now, how those three leaders are immune from policy violations they’ve been a part of themselves… and curious as to why you’d say that they aren’t going anywhere with such confidence. Seriously, anyone can get fired. Those guys are in the hot seat. Many people are NOT HAPPY right now.
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The administration seems to have made a decent decision, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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Bob, just because someone makes a lot of money as a coach, doesn’t make them devious… if it does, then we can expect TUBBS to also be a greedy, devious character… right? The bottom line is Tech doesn’t have the right to EXECUTE EMPLOYEES without hearing the facts… not with Leach or any other employee situation they are dealing with. They can’t turn away and hope the mess just goes away. Mess has to be cleaned up. The good news is… when the messes are swept up, confidence can be restored. But not until then.
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Rob1910…
just keep it to sports…dont play the race card…life isnt fair…I am a pretty good guy…would love to run the 10000 person company I work for…but it isn’t going to happen…too many people, with much more experience than I have….with much more skins on the wall..ruff will get his shot…he didnt lose out b/c of his race…he isnt qualified to coach a big 12 team withthe success that tech has had..he needs to get experience elsewhere…tubbs is by far more experienced and by far a more decorated and qualified coach
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Rob1910
Your concern for TTU employees is perhaps well founded. But at a University the students come first.
I think it is a fact that Adam James was diagnosed with a concussion. I know Mike Leach called him lazy on national TV, because I saw that. I don’t think any college anywhere will ever hire LEach again, and I think TTU will win this lawsuit easily.
The TTU admistration made a big mistake keeping Leach, but maybe they did not know how big a mistake, or the real reason it was a mistake.
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I am reading many of these comments and see a lot of mixed reactions. I am an Alumnus, Athletic Donor, Former Player and season ticket holder at Auburn University. What Tommy Tubberville did for Auburn is remarkable. When he took over the AU program he was faced with TERRIBLE talent left from Terry Bowden. He immediately made a drastic impact in recruiting bringing in classes that were ranked consistently in the top 10. He is amazing scout for talent – Jason Campbell, Brandon Jacobs, Ronnie Brown, Cadillac Williams, Devin Aromashodu just to name a few. These are just some of the current players that you hear about every Sunday. Also under Tubberville, AU had the #1 ranked defenses in the SEC and Nation almost his entire tenure with the Tigers. He is also a remarkable scout for assistant coaches. He did make 2 bad hires, but those 2 can’t out weight the good. He introduced the nation to AMAZING coaches and developed these coaches into major names in the college football world. Names like -Bobby Petrino, Gene Chizick, Paul Rhoades, Will Muschap, Al Borges and Eddie Gran.
To say Tubbs is a 2nd tier coach is crazy. 1993 National Coach of the Year says alot. Tubbs was an outstanding D coordinator under Jimmy Johnson at Miami and RC Slocum at A&M.
But one of the most amazing stats from Tubberville ….6 straight wins over Bama and yep 4-1 against The Mighty Nick Saban.
The AU Nation has missed Tubbs, but we had to move on and support our new leader. I can understand the Texas Tech Nation’s anger towards the athletic department and they way Leach was fired. However, if you are truly a Red Raider and it’s in your heart, you will embrace this change.
Just wanted to let you guys know, you have a winner about to take the lead. A leader that you will be happy to have represent Texas Tech University.
GOOD LUCK RED RAIDERS and GOOD LUCK TUBBS!!!
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I think the admin did a great job on the hiring of Tubberville! He will able to take us where Leach could not.
And just out of mere curiousity, if/when the “truth comes out” after the trial, is Team Leach going to disband or perhaps say that the judge was in the pocket of “The three?” Or that whatever insubordination was done by Leach was excusable because he was such a great coach?
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Spit, are you confusing me with someone else? I’ve never played a race card…??? check back, I’ve never said anything race related in my posts. Unless of course, you see my labeling the top dogs behind the Leach firing as being a part of a snakepit imagery. But I don’t think that’s race related. lol Btw— I think you can run the company you work for and everyone has the right to rise up,… but you may not want to. A lot of responsibility comes when you are a leader over a huge entity, especially like TTU. That’s why I and others are upset with what I call the snakepit… the inner core of Tech that has the power to make decisions like… — firing Leach without a fair hearing and without facts. As a leader, you have to treat employees fairly and not violate policies just the same…. and when one steps forward and proves that they were wronged— it must be addressed if you CARE ABOUT THE SCHOOL/BUSINESS– whatever. — I’m keeping it to SPORTS, but I am also agreeing with several others on here that the lapse in personnel management is seen in other entities of the school, not just sports. I think it’s very fair to make that analogy because what happened to Leach and what happened to many other employees under the label “TECH” is relevant… and as#ociated with the inner core management of the school. IF Tech leaders and legal point persons are not caring to listen to facts or reason and are not repairing any brokenness laid out before them, then it’s no surprise that the Leach thing is one part of a greater systemic issue…
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PainfullyObvious
With the name calling and personal attacks, I have to believe that you are an Aggie.
I didn’t see a denial.
Yeah, right it was a muff, why call the timeouts then?
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Get your Guns UP and support the Red Raiders. I didn’t like what they did to Leach either, but what’s done is done! We have to move on and support the team. You can voice your dislike for the administration and still support the players!
And I don’t believe you people who say you are going to give up your season tickets. Come next Fall you will be at the games if you are a TRUE RED RAIDER FAN.
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Yes Spit, i think you confused Rob with someone else. Rob only champions the employees at TTU at the expense of our student athletes, and he rarely does it under 10,000 words…
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sorry rob i mistook you for another post…just too bullish on the new hire and perhaps my vision gave way to my excitement for 2010
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Thank god he is leaving AU country, you guys can have him, Just remember, he don’t like for the admins to tell him what to do.
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and– that short post took TRO about 50 minutes to articulate. I champion fairness. You decided that I seemed pro-leach and about fairness before firing… and you labeled me ACLU employed and names like “Loser”. Isn’t there a dance competition that you are missing on the tv right now. Run along now… your not here to add much, just to bully people. I’m sorry that asking for Leach to have a fair trial brings you to a full rage.
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rob:
lol, you are such a tool. you crack me up. now go watch the local news by yourself and go to bed. you are completely clueless to football, business, and life.
you are so predictable, you will rage on and write the equivalent of war and peace in your next blog. Like everyone cares what you think.
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oh and btw, in TRO’s post, it seems that what he was trying so hard for 50 minutes to get out… was that Adam’s sweet, cushy, sad-face feelings… were far more important than a longtime coach’s fair trial. I disagree… I think both Adam and Leach’s concerns and observations deserved the respect of TECH LEADERS and LEGAL.
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I will wait and see how Tuberville does this time around. Keep in mind he was the only candidate not named Ruffin McNeil in this deal. So no professional search was done and we picked Tuberville because he was available quickly. This is not the way a major university hires people, I don’t remember seeing the job posting that I believe has to be up 10 days before the hire can be made . Look for another restraining order.
Any other coaching changes will happen after Feb 3, and the GOBs will laugh and say we fooled em again.
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whatever, TRO….. and if I do write War and Peace in my next post, I’m sure you’ll have to purchase the CLIFF NOTES… hurry… hurry run along, run along… now… Dancing with the Stars is on…
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whatever, TRO…..I’m sorry I’m not JOCK enough for you. And if I do write War and Peace in my next post, I’m sure you’ll have to purchase the CLIFF NOTES… hurry… hurry run along, run along… now… Dancing with the Stars is on…
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Tro
You don’t need to kick him out, just put him back in timeout!
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yeah, Randy… anybody got a good shed… hahah LOL
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I am an Odessa native and an ‘86 alumni. I have lived in Birmingham, Alabama – for professional reasons – since 1996. Coach Tuberville is a perfect choice, and I am quite excited. Auburn and TTU are very similar schools. They are both terribly underrated academically. Both schools have certain programs – engineering, architecture, ag sciences, ect. -that are the very finest in their respective states. Coach Tuberville will be something of a pain in our backsides – West Texas may be the only part of the country large enough to contain his ego. But what he will bring to the Red Raider table is this – speed on defense. Say what you want about Tebow and Ingram, the reason that the SEC has been so dominant the past several years is speed on defense – it intimidates other teams from all other parts of the country. If he will leave the offense in place, give him 2 years to recruit, and Texas, Texas A&M, and Oklahoma will wonder when they are on offense “where are all these guys coming from.” Guns Up – National Championship (our first) in 2013.
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Lee, I agree with you that at a university the students should come first. I also agree with Rob1910 that our administration is inadequate in handling many things and situations including the Leach fiasco.
For discussion sake let’s make Leach 100% wrong about everything and has been his entire life. The administration had their chance last year and failed. Maybe they could not get anyone good in February and Leach would not sign a one year contract, so they plotted a “give him whatever he wants, then fire him next year” plan. That is wrong. If they do this to Leach they will do it to the head of the English department, or the music department, or the engineering department, etc. In every case, it is wrong. There is question about whether they kept within the guidlines of their own contract. There should be no question. Either they approved a flawed contract or they abused it. In either case, this is not good. They rushed through due diligence to obviously save $800K and now has Tech in court. Wrong. Based on Craig James’ statement that he and Hance were in business together there is question about conflict of interest. (I do not trust James so this may have just been talk on his part.) If true, they again are wrong. Now dial up the possibility that Leach is 10% right, everything amplifies. If he is 50% right then the Tech admin has put us in a terrible position.
Of course if Leach had just let James stand around instead of walk (a privilege no one else gets) we would not be here. If Adam James applied himself then there would not have been a problem between he and the coach. If Craig James, when he heard his little boy was lazy and had a bad attitude back last year (or before) had been a dad and straightened out his kid, we would not have this problem. If the administration let Leach have the $800K he was due, let him coach the Alamo Bowl and did a complete investigation, then we would not be in this situation. Either he would still be coach (like it or not) or Tech would have had solid information to terminate him with cause, and no lawsuit.
Now if any of the rumors are true about this whole James thing being a setup to get rid of Leach and promote Craig James’ senate race by showing what a family man he is, then someone may be showing up wiht handcuffs. If Spaeth Communications is a part of a master plan and Hance and others knew about it, we will not have to woryy about them being fired, the state will take care of it for us. Sorry for ranting, but just these few things so upset me about the inabilities of Hance, Bailey and Myer.
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You’re Right – Wallace Wayne Watkins
If the Raider Defense could shut teams down – the way the Tech offense rolls over them…. we would be on top of the Big XII, and a top ranked team nationally. Speed, and a mean SEC style defense, would be a killer combination..
Onward & Upward Tech.
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I don’t think you could do better than Tuberville. At least we’ll have a coach that is respectable and shows respect to others. The university, Lubbock and the area needs this. I’m excited.
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Anybody hearing anything from recruits on this hire? I hope it works out. I think when it finally came down to RM and TT, it was about track record and nothing else. Not that that means anything just look at General Motors. Lets hope that it goes well. I know this ordeal has been a bitter pill to swallow, but those of us that are proud of this university and what it stands for academically and athletically need to support these young men that suit up for our university. I am not proud of the three ring circus but will support our teams as they are the public face of our university.
GO TECH!
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Good post, Golfwoody…
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FORE! Golfwoody… you think like a logic master… I like that. I say, let’s put Golfwoody in the driver’s seat. Hypothetically, then, maybe things would be sorted out fairly.
I especially agree with your a$uming Leach is 100 percent wrong… and deducing this:
“Either they approved a flawed contract or they abused it. In either case, this is not good. They rushed through due diligence to obviously save $800K and now has Tech in court. Wrong. Based on Craig James’ statement that he and Hance were in business together there is question about conflict of interest.”– Golfwoody.
Very well put… totally agree with every word. Fairness is what we want the school to be as$ociated with, right, … not anything less…. not anything less… The school leaders have an obligation to be fair– to people, to contracts… to policies… to hearings… etc.
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Randy said: “PainfullyObvious, with the name calling and personal attacks, I have to believe that you are an Aggie.
I didn’t see a denial.
Yeah, right it was a muff, why call the timeouts then?”
What on earth are you talking about???
I’m talking about Tech’s future as a legitimate contender rather than the perpetual spoiler. The posters who are fixated on the Craig/Leach are living dangerously in the past. The longer the malcontents at Tech harp and whine and urinate and moan about the departure of The Leach (a man who never gave a tinkerer’s dang about Tech other than the paycheck), the more they make Tech unattractive to quality recruits……..or are you going to be satisfied with more recruits like Adam James?
Well, are you?
If I am who you think I am (and you are way off base), I would be stirring the pot and trying to keep Tech looking as unattractive as possible. The ranting a raving by the infantile whiners hurts Tech. What is so dang hard to understand about that.
Maybe, Randy, your real enemy are the folks who continue to pick the James/Leach/Hance/Meyers scab? Wise up, kid. It will do you some good.
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OMG! OMG! somebody actually said that Ruffin wasn’t hired because he was black! I am ashamed that person is associated with my school for even going there. Yes, Ruffy is just the lowly HEAD defensive coordinator. I normally try not to make personal attacks on this thing but you sir “Same Ol’ Story” are an ignorant blight on alumni. Grow up. Ruffin was a serious candidate…but did not have the credentials over Tubby. Simple as that. Whitey didn’t bring the black man down doofus.
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Without the brains behind the Tech offense, it will quickly become stale and out date.
Tuberville certainly had top defensive units but his offense was not a thing of beauty. His offense was good enough when he had Campbell, Williams, and Brown(see NFL), but without them it was just aweful. Riley will likely be run off soon and that leaves only Sonny Cumby. Then what we bring in somebody to try and imitate our scheme, Tuberville tried that at Auburn his last season employed there.
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And on the picking the scab note… (fight bell rings) Painfully Obvious goes to his corner and Randy to his… Round three in five.
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Randy,
Are you throwing in the towel so soon? You are already kicking dirt into the face of the Tuberville era by a$$uming that Tech won’t be able to recruit because he is now the head honcho?
Tech followers remind me of a bucket full of crabs. Whenever one of them tries to take his existence to a higher level, the others grab him and drag him back down into the bucket.
If The Leach had cared about Tech, he wouldn’t have been making unfathomable demands during his salary negotiations nor would he be bringing bad publicity and legal bills to the school. The Leach never cared about ANYBODY other than himself. All those good players who worked hard under him were simply The Leach’s blood supply.
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To AUBURNGRAD: “he don’t like”…is that auburnkindergartengrad?
To RedRaiderAlumni(alumnus?): Tub didn’t get fired because he WANTED to put in the spread..he DID put the spread offense in,during ‘08. He didn’t have the personnel to execute it properly..Auburn couldn’t score worth a dime..he canned the OC halfway through the season but offense still struggled; tough to change back in midseason.
Tub says he is committed to Tech spread…we will see…maybe with the personnel Tech has & Lincoln, it will work…hope so!
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PainfullyObvious said:
Randy,
Well-established that was a muffed kick. So off to your basement room and stop bothering the adults.
Randi, let’s try it this way.
I can teach you about football.
So what you said about me so far is that I am childish and girl.
infantile whiners
I would think that qualifies.
And I don’t think you are anybody, am I right?
Still no denial of being an Aggie, I am not an Aggie, is that hard?
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People will more readily support tech again when meyers, bailey, hance, and james are gone. Why is this so hard to understand? Booster32 you are just annoying.
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How did James really get the concussion?
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Golfwoody… say it ain’t so though.. can you imagine… that type of premeditation… if possible.. and I’m afraid it’s possible… sadly. And no prob on the rants. Rants welcomed. Seriously though… the last paragraph of your post is turning this whole debacle into another possible Oliver Stone flick, including Hance…. again… — wouldn’t that be incredibly tragic… longterm scars from a sports movie scandle blockbuster…. sigh….. let’s hope it’s not the case. I almost don’t even want to look now…
Protocol in employee matters is so important. This is why I am shocked that Tech Lawyers could allow this to even come close to happening.. and maybe they are “hands-tied” in some respects… however, I know from my own observations that some high level lawyers operate with a cavalier attitude to cases placed on their desk with no concern for Tech funds… NOT ALL LAWYERS, BUT SOME. I’ve seen the inept actions of some firsthand. Those who act before having facts. So, it would be no surprise to me that some looked the other way on this or didn’t look into it at all — putting the university in great risk… if it is so. And I repeat… if policy violation on the part of the administration is FAIRLY PROVEN OUT… And I hope for fairness on all sides…. Leach and Tech…. Let’s let the justice system sort through the details. It’s just something that could have been avoided, I feel. Just having to defend the university in this colossal mess is going to cost the university a fortune. Money that was raised with diligence and a lot of hard work… in various capacities…
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Well, Tubby out-pokered Tech. He used the USF opening to pressure the administration. Remember GM’s passive comment about calling Tubby after he spoke with RM. TT told GM he would take the USF job if they offered before Tech. For those who believe Myers is a lame duck AD with no power, wrong. For fear of losing one of only two candidates and looking as if he had no choices because no one wanted to work under these gurus, he pursuaded the decision makers to hire him immediately. Another premature trigger pull predicated on ego and perception. How embarrassing it would be for the administration to lose a candidate to lowly USF! Interesting thing is there was significant support for RM from one person in particular. Some believe that person will ensure Myers retirement after Tech settles the ML lawsuit. Can’t let him go before for fear of creating the perception he bumbled the ML incident. If TT keeps the current staff, Tech has a chance to sustain success. Did anyone note TT’s comment about not changing the air raid “much”. He destroyed three offensive schemes at AU by not changing them “much”. I hope he learned something.
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same ol’ story:
I am an African-American (AA) and to be honest, Coach McNeill is a fine man coordinator, but this is not the opportunity for him. Look at what happened to John Blake when he was hired at Oklahoma in 1995, he was quickly in over his head and was fired in 1998 to be replaced with Bob Stoops; the rest is history. I was pulling for Coach McNeill to get the job but,
1) His lack of an offensive grasp (THAT’S WHAT SELLS THE TICKETS, NOT HARD HITTING DEFENSE ALONE!!); Tech would have taken a “GIANT” step backward and they would be right here again next year hiring someone else, Coach McNeill’s rep would be ruined and any chance to get a HC position where he could succeed.
2) When you have a Top 25 program, this is not OTJ training. In college ranks, other than Turner Gill (Kansas) and Kevin Sumlin (Houston) most of the AA coaches are defensive specialists. Having a firm offensive grasp and philosophy is the way to go.
3) You can not argue against the Tuberville hire. Mcneill vs. Tuberville is comparing apples to oranges. He has a tremendous track record and at his last stop he had the misfortune of being the coach of a program with unrealistic expectations. He has the experience of running a big time program, Coach McNeill does not. Please don’t make this a racial issue. I believe Coach McNeill will get an opportunity that is appropriate for him. He handled the team and himself well through this ordeal (that speaks volumes for him), gave good intgerviews, was very articulate (
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same ol’ story:
I am an African-American (AA) and to be honest, Coach McNeill is a fine man coordinator, but this is not the opportunity for him. Look at what happened to John Blake when he was hired at Oklahoma in 1995, he was quickly in over his head and was fired in 1998 to be replaced with Bob Stoops; the rest is history. I was pulling for Coach McNeill to get the job but,
1) His lack of an overall offensive grasp (THAT’S WHAT SELLS THE TICKETS, NOT HARD HITTING DEFENSE ALONE!!); Tech would have taken a “GIANT” step backward and they would be right here again next year hiring someone else, Coach McNeill’s rep would be ruined and any chance to get a HC position where he could succeed.
2) When you have a Top 25 program, this is not OTJ training. In college ranks, other than Turner Gill (Kansas) and Kevin Sumlin (Houston) most of the AA coaches are defensive specialists. Having a firm offensive grasp and philosophy is the way to go.
3) You can not argue against the Tuberville hire. Mcneill vs. Tuberville is comparing apples to oranges. He has a tremendous track record and at his last stop he had the misfortune of being the coach of a program with unrealistic expectations. He has the experience of running a big time program, Coach McNeill does not.
Please don’t make this a racial issue. I believe Coach McNeill will get an opportunity that is appropriate for him. He handled the team and himself well through this ordeal (that speaks volumes for him), gave good interviews, was very articulate (even the networks and other Head Coaches were impressed with him). Trust me he we get a shot in the near to lead a program.
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The money they’re giving Tubs isnt that much less then Mike Leach’s contract. The the good ole boys felt intimidated by Mike so they moved him out. Don’t expect Tubs to keep the offense the same for that long. He can’t run the spread, unless he gets a offensive coordinator who really knows the system. Tubs runs the ball..That’s what he does. But he’ll fit right in with the good ole boy administration. We’ll see how he does…
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No more fun 4th down either. No more “no guts no glory”….
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Rob1910
To not be an insult to the fine legal minds on the Tech campus (not a sarcastic remark, I think the law school has many great lawyers), it is my guess there is either an outside firm that specializes in sports contracts who did the Leach contract, or they took a basic boiler plate and ‘told’ legal what to put in it no matter the advice legal gave them.
Of course there is the possibility – just conjecture – that Sowell, located in Dallas, after having lunch with Craig James, located in Dallas, contacted Spaeth, in Dallas, about the best way to handle this Leach problem. They devised a possibility and gave it to Sowell. He then takes it to Hance, Bailey and Myer who giggle and say “lets do it!” and Spaeth got a law firm of their choice to write it up. Now add in the side stories, such as Craig James’ timing for announcing his possible senate run and you get a lot of connection with all the same players. Or how it was Spaeth who released the Adam James cell video. A video that was NOT the room he was in, but they made sure they released it. Much like political people do when they want to insinuate something. And the story goes on and on.
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Tubby was known as the Riverboat Gambler. He always goes for it on 4th down.
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90% OF THE PLAYERS WANTED THE INTERIM COACH…WHY WOULDNT YOU HIRE THE GUY YOURPLAYERS WANT TO PLAY FOR…? A FEW YEARS BACK…MOST NEBRASKA PLAYERS WANTED BO…BUT THE AD DECIDED NOT TO GO WITH THE PLAYERS AND HIRED CALAHAN…AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED…”THEIR” CHOICE SET THE HUSKERS BACK10 YEARS…AND THEN NEBRASKA ENDS UP HIRING BO AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENNED! ALWAYS SIDEWITH YOUR PLAYERS, THATS WHAT YOU HAVE…DONT HIRE A COACH AND SET YOUR PROGRAM BACK 10 YEARS…NOTHING IS BETTER FOR RECRUITING THAN A TEAM THAT IS BEHIND THEIR COACH…….POOR TEXAS TECH…GOOD LUCK
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Golfwoody
If TTU officials had known a year ago what they know now, they would not have extended Leach’s contract. So they made a mistake. If Leach had still been their employee when he made that ESPN national interview where he called Adam James lazy and other things as well, then they would really be in trouble.
If Leach believed those things about Adam James, then why did he not throw him off the team? Why did Leach sue to coach in a game while he was suspended? I don’t think his contract gives him a right to coach – it’s an employment contract. The University suspended him because he had been accused of what might be considered abuse of one of his students. They could not continue to let him coach in the interrim. Such administrative paid leave during investigations is common, and it is possible he would have been cleared in such an investigation. Again why did he sue to coach that game? He’s a lawyer; maybe he knew TTU would be forced to fire him
From a distance it looks like he was 100% wrong in handling the Adam James concussion issue (I know nothing about other Leach issues). I believe he would have been fired after an investigation, but while the investigation was ongoing, I think a settlement of some sort would likely have been reached. His suit to overturn the suspension while under investigation forced the hand of the administration. They had to fire him. It looks to me like they would not have fired him before the bowl game, and he would have collected his extra $800,000 had he watched the game from the stands.
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Charles, you are way off the mark with choosing what the players want. It’s good that they are comfortable with Ruffin but players are always going to side with a guy they like on the staff. They are comfortable with him and don’t want change. Everyone prefers that. And that is certainly how they would voice it. Tunes will change soon enough.
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Just wanted to add a little information to this ongoing lunacy. Have just spent the weekend in Dallas at a convention with people from all over the country and world. Numerous people asked me where I was from and i told them I lived in Lubbock, Texas. NO ONE said anything to me or asked me about Mike Leach, TTU, Adam James, TTU football, Elmer Fudd, Porky Pig, Lady GaGa, or any other superficial topic. There was no ongoing coverage of the life upheaval that Mike Leach’s firing is believed to have caused to the universe. There are no protestors in the streets clamoring for his reinstatement, nor pictures of TTU administrators being burned along with chants of “”death to the tyrants.” The only acknowledgment of TTU football I saw was the running line on ESPN indicating Tuberville would be named the next coach. The bigger college football story seems to be Pete Carroll.
So, get some perspective and let’s go back to the things that are important in living our everyday lives. Unfortuantely, there will be plenty of stories about lawsuits over the next year or two to keep you from thinking about your own lives and responsibilities.
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Wayne, I think you are right on about 2013. And I assume you meant the 2012 season. We just stepped it up a notch, and we had better in the Big Twelve South. Gun’s up!
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I dont want Tuberville I will say it again I agree with some of those on here why not go for the person the players wanted?? They should have given Ruffin a chance I feel, he wouldve been the better choice. Tuberville is an SEC coach what does he know about Big 12 football. This is just sad I want to support my team I have lived in Lubbock all of my life but this decision has me conflicted!! Thank you Tech admin. for ruining college football for me!!
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Tuberville is certainly competent, seasoned, etc. but the problem is, as AustinTTAlum was the first to point out, if he is successful quickly, he is gone. If not, who wants him. Tales you win, heads I lose. Never a fan of Leach (same winning percentage in Big 12 play as Spike) but he finally seemed resigned to ride it out with us, and I believe as a direct result was beginning to recruit like a viable alternative to UT and OU. So yeah, still bitter at Myers.
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Lee, see my responses below.
If TTU officials had known a year ago what they know now, they would not have extended Leach’s contract. So they made a mistake. If Leach had still been their employee when he made that ESPN national interview where he called Adam James lazy and other things as well, then they would really be in trouble.
>>>>> If they were so unhappy withLeach why would they have not just left the existing contract in place? Yes, Leach may have left but it would have taken care of their plan. Again as you said, a mistake.
>>>>> Just one of many reports about Adam James being lazy – Texas Monthly reported that last March the reporter sat in on a coaching session and the discussion amoung all the coaches discussed James lack of effort and laziness. Why did they keep him – all I can figure is for either political reasons or maybe he was waiting until the end of the season.
If Leach believed those things about Adam James, then why did he not throw him off the team? Why did Leach sue to coach in a game while he was suspended?
>>>>> $800K and he truly felt he had done nothing wrong (whether he did or not)
I don’t think his contract gives him a right to coach – it’s an employment contract. The University suspended him because he had been accused of what might be considered abuse of one of his students. They could not continue to let him coach in the interrim. Such administrative paid leave during investigations is common, and it is possible he would have been cleared in such an investigation. Again why did he sue to coach that game? He’s a lawyer; maybe he knew TTU would be forced to fire him
>>>>> The coach at South Florida hit a player in November and they investigated it until this past week. He finished the season and coached them in their bowl. There is little question whether they had fully investigated it or not. In Leach’s case it was so quick there is question whether there was time for everything to surface.
From a distance it looks like he was 100% wrong in handling the Adam James concussion issue (I know nothing about other Leach issues). I believe he would have been fired after an investigation, but while the investigation was ongoing, I think a settlement of some sort would likely have been reached. His suit to overturn the suspension while under investigation forced the hand of the administration. They had to fire him. It looks to me like they would not have fired him before the bowl game, and he would have collected his extra $800,000 had he watched the game from the stands.
>>>>> To save $800K they may have to pay millions. A rush to judgement.
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Finally the announcement before Sunday. Looks like I will finally be able to get some season tickets from all the nay sayers. I have been trying for several years. As I stated in other post, Red Raider until the day I die, no matter who the coach is. I support TTU education and sports. I still think Myers will be gone way before anyone thinks he will.
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Intelligent Observer -
I live in the Southeastern US and I have had numerous conversations about the Leach situation. I have had phone conversations with friends in New York, DC and Seattle about Leach and Texas Tech.
If your child was run over by a drunk driver your local news would cover the story for a day and then never mention it again. But you and your family and friends would be devastated for years. Our family – Texas Tech – got ran over and if it is not important to people at your convention thats okay, but it is devastating to us.
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Ashley said:
I dont want Tuberville I will say it again I agree with some of those on here why not go for the person the players wanted?? They should have given Ruffin a chance I feel, he wouldve been the better choice. Tuberville is an SEC coach what does he know about Big 12 football. This is just sad I want to support my team I have lived in Lubbock all of my life but this decision has me conflicted!! Thank you Tech admin. for ruining college football for me!!
You are a total idiot. “He coached in the SEC, what does he know about the Big12″. The SEC has owned the Big12 in recent years. They play a brand of defense that the Big12 can not handle. Tuberville will beef the defense up. Good defense wins Championships. Tell me Ashley, Have we won any Championships lately?
Go back to watching your soap operas girl.
Welcome Tommy. Good luck Leach
Wreckem Texas Tech
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Good Luck .. Could be the best of a bad situation—— What’s this man’s grad rate?– I would hate to see us return to knuckle draggers and street punks..
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Adam James was placed in timeout for misbehaving.
Adam James was placed in timeout for misbehaving.
Adam James was placed in timeout for misbehaving.
Adam James was placed in timeout for misbehaving.
I can say it a few more times, but some will continue to bring up the concussion issue.
Adam James was placed in timeout for misbehaving.
Adam James was placed in timeout for misbehaving.
If that is mistreatment of a student then I think most teachers are at risk.
God help us in the new Obamaworld.
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Ask alumnae of Ole Miss what they think of Tuberville and you won’t get a positive reaction. He told them he would never leave there and 2 days later he was out the door without looking back! Can only wish he will do that to Myers and his gang of incompetents.
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Randy,
Let’s be clear.
All teachers who put students in timeout for misbehaving when they have a concussion are at risk. Particularly if they shut them up in dark rooms.
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Tuberville is good choice. How many of you had ever even heard of Leach before he became our head coach? Leach built our program to the point that we were at least able to get a coach that has experience being a head coach in a big conference. The last time that Tech hired a coach with any significant head coaching experience was Steve Sloan—too long ago for many of you unloyal bellyachers to remember, that was the last time until last year that we were in the national limelight. After Sloan left, we suffered through Dockery, Moore, McWilliams and the early years with Spike before he learned that a football team needed to have an offense and not just all defense. I loved Leach while he was here, but he’s gone so get over it, get on board with coach Tuberville, or jump ship, we don’t need or want you. My diplomas & rings have a double T on them, not a Jolly Roger. All the pirate stuff was fun, but it’s time to get move on. GET YOUR GUNS UP & WRECK’EM TEXAS TECH!!!!!
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You mean you hope he does that to Tech. Go to the Shorthorn or Okie website.
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Will Team Leach finally win a championship?
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All of you Gerald and Kent bashers, look up some history on Tech. These two over the long haul have done much for Tech and are loyal to Tech, which can not be said of the Leach man. Leach thought he was bigger than the university and his ego finally caught up with him. Great hire in Tuberville. How many of this years players were sorry to see Leach go, never read or heard any of them say they were sorry to see him go. Ex players yes. Yes they liked Ruff and wanted him, but Ruff had no head coaching expierence. Go Tech thanks to all of you who are giving up theirtickets, I am sure I will get some great seats.
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What a (bad) move. Support your coach, he put you on the MAP. As a Nebraska grad I hated to compete with Leach. He is truley a GREAT offensive coach. I have never seen anyone do what he has done!!!!!!!!! You TOTALLY screwed up letting him go!!! What a terrrible decision. What a terrible decision. What were you thinking?? Looks like something Obama would do. You will lose. You will lose. You will lose. You had the best you could get and did not realize it. You blew it for some punk Kid.
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Did Craig James ok this hire. When is Adam going to SMU. Give me a break on Craig James for senate. Your crazy as hell.. Good luck Tubbs and keep the staff in order. Go Raiders and fire the three stoges
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Charlie, you should be ashamed.
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Just a thought. I have been told James and Hance are partners on a wind farm. That came from a former Tech player. Imagine that.
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With Tuberville, James will be begging for his old coach, not from a shed but from his knees. “Please put me in the shed, I’ll actually stand in the closet I lied about.”
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Hope that wind farm is on my land. I’ll be rich. Then I can afford the season tickets all of you don’t want anymore. I’ll take them.
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I’m not a Tech grad … so some unbiased outsider thoughts …
Tech should be proud now since they have something in common with ‘Bama (the FCS champs with a BIG FAT ASTERISK because Texas lost its best player very early and ‘Bama still had to hang on to win).
What is the thing in common – Tech is just as RACIST as ‘Bama. Few years back, Sylvester Croom (played at ‘Bama under Bear Bryant; coached under Bryant) had the pedigree that a ‘Bama coach needed … but he is BLACK so he didn’t even get a sniff. Ruff should have gotten the job … but he is BLACK. Don’t kid yourselves. Do you think Ruff would have been passed over if he was WHITE?
And what a class act Tuberville is. When he skipped out on Ole Miss for Auburn, he didn’t even have the class to say goodbye to the kids he recruited to play for him!
That is something else Tech and ‘Bama has in common now. Saban is a LIAR and Tuberbill is a JERK. Yes two really “classy” coaches. A couple of guys you can really “believe” when they open their mouths.
If Tuberville succeeds and a better opportunity comes calling, maybe then he will at least say good-bye to the kids he recruited before he skips town.
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CLASS….CLASS….QUIET DOWN CLASS
Your required reading for today is GOLFWOODY post: Jan 9 / 9:29PM
THANK YOU GW
I have always enjoyed your posts. Keep it up. I ran out of words about 4 days ago,
but I enjoy reading well thought out posts no matter how long.
If these TROLLS in support of the 3 STOOGES keep showing up, in attack mode, I’ll
get fired up again. I could almost feel it coming on before you piped up tonight.
Thanks again & as always I remind you,
KENT HANCE IS A SNAKE IN THE GRASS & ALWAYS HAS BEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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First of all, James Beard… I think I busted out, laughing at your post… I don’t know why, but the dry, randomness of that thought was cla$sic.
Secondly, Golfwoody, once again.. I bow down to the details and thoughts you explore. Your observations based on facts and then others based on possibilities is informative and interesting to think about. I hope the reporters are picking up on some of your ideas. There’s a site that maps political figures and who they are connected to in work, organizations and philanthropies. And it’s very interesting to see the relationships of people and their interests. Your last post reminds me of that site’s purpose. The connecting of the dots here in the Leach firing timeline of events and people involved, just from an exploratory angle, is fascinating. You know when things don’t make sense to us… and departures are abrupt and without warning, or without fairness… or seem to leave a trail of tears behind… this is what happens…. Human nature tends to want to explore the scenarios and rightly so. It’s only natural to wonder why and how things went so wrong. If things were handled with protocol and common sense regarding Leach, there would not be so many unanswered questions and mysterious aspects here worth probing. There are politically fueled things going on here and to what extent, I can only hope that we are allowed to get to the bottom of it. But the mere fact that we quest to get to the bottom of it at all is because of how senseless and ambushing things actually were when Leach was fired before Tech officials and lawyers cruised off for the holidays. It was downright trashy, to be frank. I’ve seen Tech strike a match and run on several shameful issues. But I believe this particular situation has detonated a much larger-targeted, nastier, career-killing bomb that will have shrapnel flying for months ahead, taking all out in the strike zone, legally speaking. And all of this… could have been avoided if people in very fortunate places of power could have simply made… a fair and just decision, not a decision that shot from the hip or more tragically, one that was layered in premeditation.
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it’ll be interesting to see -personally I hope they do run the ball more-more play action etc…under leach too one dimensional imo. Execution-no matter what the system is key. Leach was successful because he was able to recruit good players to execute and believe in his system. Football is about beating the guy across from you whether its wishbone, spread, razorback or whatever. Hopefully the defense will improve- it will have to to beat the big boys
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This reminds me of when OU won the National Championship with Leach’s offense (after Leach was gone) and Bob Stoops defense. The spread system is in place here and is the best in the country. Mix that with Tuberville giving us a strong defense and we should be contenders for a while. I think our recruiting will improve by leaps and bounds now too.
We were #2 in the country last year and then had the #25 recruiting class. That has to change.
Coach Tuberville: The formula for packing the stands and winning over the alumni is to win the Big 12 conference and go to a BCS game. We have never been to a BCS game because we have never had an elite defense. An elite defense would give this team the National Championship.
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Jayess, too late to apologioze to old women. Maybe you meant to say “sounds like a cry baby boy who can’t stop suckling on his Mama’s tit!”
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Charlie, you should not be ashamed! You are right!!!!!
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From a neutral point of view(OK I’m a bit off I am a Notre Dame fan in Oklahoma……I know dumb moves) this really seems like a lateral hire. Your defense should get better. Your offense should decline. I don’t care what TT says about running the offense. In the end the puppet master is gone and every time a little change is made it will be away from what you do now.
TT had ONE great year at Auburn and the rest not quite there….as is normal for them. Don’t think he will just run circles around others recruiting. He recruited as well as he did at Auburn because…..He was at SEC Auburn. He will not recruit as well in Lubbock because he is at Big XII Texas Tech (no offense), Most kids chose other Texas schools or OU first.
That said you had a chance to hire a FORMER SEC coach with experience. Most schools would have done the same whether its right or wrong. You will hopefully stay about where you are. Age withstanding I do think he is on the market right now he could move in a couple of years. Keep him for four or more and you might have him for the long haul (be careful what you wish for.
But here is the rub……Can’t go to the press conference and you are upset. How much do you love your school and hate what happened. Forget the cold show up outside tomrrow. Show up in droves. Show up with outrage and yell at the door. Let them know how you feel . Its your last chance before its time to shut up and support the kids. As administrators these guys apparently create a partial vacumn with their oral cavity. Don’t go quietly into that good nite……..Or just whine on here
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“They’ll have to carry me out of here in a pine box,” Tommy Tuberville quote about his commitment to Ole Miss…..Two days later he left for a conference rival……now he is the our captain Arrrrrrrrrrr………still not sure if im going to renew my season tickets or just put team leach on it and return to sender…..
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hey u guys that are still saying TEAM LEACH, forget it, mike leach is not the coach anymore, u guys got a new coach and MOVE ON, if you are a true tech fans then u will give Tuberville 100% support and look to the future
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Dan.. the last paragraph you wrote… action speaks louder than blog words… yes… true… indeed! People are upset…
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Rob I have felt that way about other issues and did show up sometimes alone. If 100 fans show up screaming at the door tomorrow….whats the lead…..You betcha. I’d go but its a 5 hour drive for me and I am under state ordered therapy for being and Irish fan.
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I went to the Alamo bowl and saw more people wearing Team Leach stuff than team TEXAS TECH. Thats dumb. No matter how stupid it was that he got fired, im not gonna not be a Tech fan just cause Mike is gone. Im not saying tech handled the Leach thing like they should of, im just saying people Should be showing support for Tech if they are Tech fans. He’s gone. Go Tuberville. Go TECH.
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message to “same ol story” and “it figures” .. hey I’m a G.O.B and I voted for “Obama”, does that make you feel better.?? this had nothing to do with what color your a$$ is when you put on your pants on in the morning.. it’s time that you two get your head out of your a$$
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Dan,
Respectfully I must take issue with your comments about recruiting top kids to Tech. Have you checked the Rivals.com list lately? True , those committments may not stand up now but the point is…….if this debacle hadn’t happened it WOULD have. Kids will go where they can be successful and win; on that list are several outstanding recruits from the state of Florida……..I’m so sick of hearing how we can’t recruit and that College Station and Austin are nirvana. Christ have you ever BEEN to College Station? True Austin is pretty but