Hire Ruff- Zach Thomas-defensive coordinator? Why not!

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Ruff’s Raiders I love it. We need you Ruff. Guns Up Go Raiders

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I’ll tell you why, Raider P. Because it would be ridiculous. We need a coach who can take us to the next level (if one is available). It’s not McNeill. He is a great guy and a great recruiter. Also a good DC who gets along well with the players. That doesn’t mean he is head coach material.

Tuberville is the best of all the names out there. He’s shown he can win in a tough conference over a 10-year period. And surprise, surprise! Tech hasn’t even contacted him.

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I’m sorry ….. I’m missing the talks and reports on the firing of Gerald Myers. That should be a slam-dunk, regardless of how this all shakes out with Leach and Ruff. Why does this loser still have a job?!?!?

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Go Ruff! He has earned a shot at head coach. Go Tech!

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Enough about Tuberville……..the unemployment line is probably not the best place to go shopping for a new coach.

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Tommy T is looking for a place to hang out until he get’s a coaching job in the SEC. Hire him if you are only looking for a 2-3 year man. I also don’t like the idea of hiring away from Baylor. Keep Ruf.

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Gerald Myers said he wanted McNeill to meet with Tech President Guy Bailey to become better acquainted.

Some investigation the President did….

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That’s a good point WatchDog. LOL

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I am sure some are from former friend Mike.

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To RGM:

Agreed. Mr. Don Williams, follow up on that one for us with some good investigative journalism. Thanks!

Caleb

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I’m not sure the administration’s motives are right, but I think Ruffin is the best opportunity to continue the momentum we have going. Every head coach, no matter how smart or charismatic, was inexperienced when they got their first head coaching job. I also know experience is not a substitute for ability. If it was, Gerald Myers would be quality AD.

I had a friend who was the head coach at a Texas high school, his first head coaching job. At the annual sports banquet he got up and thanked the superintendant for giving him his first head job. True story.

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I’m still looking to get rid of Myers and even more HANCE; he couldn’t even keep a politcal ELECTED position and then figures out he can get a cush job in higher ed; then he can hire and fire as he pleases, PLUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzz.

I’m so sick of those guys and they have no accountability. PERIOD. Sort of like the Federal Government.

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Tuberville is a great guy and Coach. He did wonders for Auburn and is great at recruiting. A very good mentor for young men. It is a National name and I have no doubt he would take us to the next level. I hope that the powers at be are truly doing a National Search and not playing games. My real fear is they will settle, take Ruff (will give him a cheap contract which is not fair to him) and in a couple of years they will make another move for someone they really want now but can not get. Someone that has a big buy out now but in 2 years will not. They can give Ruff a 5 or 10 year contract but after what has happen it will not be worth anything. They have demonstrated how they value contracts with Leach.

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Is Ruffs health good enough to take on a head coach job and to stress of Myers et al?

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I like Ruff. It’s time for Ruff to be head coach.

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Ride Raider Ride, you are so correct. Hiring McNeill without conducting a true search would be compounding the mistake of firing Leach by having the wrong person come in behind him. Again, McNeill has many attributes and is a fine person, but it does not make him a head coach.

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Pres Bailey and Chance Hance will likely hire whomever Gerald selects. We don’t want to offend Ruff, but since he has never had to deal with the head job stress of a D-1 school, man……I dunno. I’d want to pass that responsibility around too. His salary of $330,000 for a DC is pretty nice and not near as much stress as the HC job would bring. Plus the top teams normally seem to have a HC that has been an OC. Not always, but in college the offensive background seems to work better for the HC at this level.

No further word out of Waco is deafening!!!!!! Briles ain’t said anything – just been rather evasive in two sentences. Their paper ain’t said one thing cause they know we are “talking” and they are scared of losing coach Briles. They’ll get over it. Personally I think Coach Briles will come from what I’m hearing if we get the buy out done. He wants to come HOME! So come on Gerald . Find the buyout money with the alums and put this puppy to bed so we can save those recruits!!!!!

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TRUST ME!

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Go Ruff!

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Trust me. Is that from the three stooges?

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Coming home isn’t always what it’s cracked up to be, just ask Dennis Franchione. Not sold on Briles as a college coach. This isn’t Stephenville, and OU isn’t Brownwood. I don’t think you can judge him by the Baylor experience. They were in such a whole. Houston has done even better since he left, which you take as a positive or negative. He’s really an unknown quantity as well. I just can’t see running off one coach for largely financial reasons, and they buying out another for several million dollars — unless the booster calling the shots is willing to write the check for it.

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Willie B – I agree well said

“McNeill has many attributes and is a fine person, but it does not make him a head coach.”

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McNeill and Riley will keep the bus rolling for awhile. Riley can drive it and McNeill can maintain it a bit, but it will become outdated and fall apart without the architect Leach.

The players love McNeill for the same reason students love a substitute teacher (hint: it’s not because they learn more).

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Why do you think McNeill is not head coaching material? Why do you think we have to have someone with HC experience? Our last 3 coaches did not have HC experience on the college level when they were hired, and all were successful. Of course, the two before that did not have HC experience on the college level when they were hired and were disasters. I think McNeill has been around long enough to manage a team. He needs to hire a good OC and maybe a DC, but I think those are doable. If he is not the one, then I hope we can get Briles. McNeill or Briles, both would stay for a long time and would get along with the administration and players and fans very well. And both can recruit.

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So after going through everyones negative points…people are missing that the fact is Leach wasn’t so bad afterall.

Re-hire Leach!

We ran away a genius that was under contract to be here. Stupid stupid stupid. They teach that in business school?

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Dont worry raidernation!!! Your in good hands as I know what is best for Texas Tech both now and in the future. I am also a bad tipper when I go out to eat!!! So you have no need to worry when I expect something for nothing!! No doubt the next contract will be written that way!!!

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Don’t forget, Tech still has to factor in the money they are going to pay Leach. If we bought out Briles, we would essentially be paying three head coaches. Leach, Briles, and Briles’ replacement at Baylor. Wouldn’t it be a hoot if that was Leach. We pay Leach a settlement, then we pay Baylor to pay Leach. Longshot, but very ironic if it happened.

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Houston’s success is due to the 5 yr program Briles built including 3 bowl trips and a Conf USA champ. Most all 99% of the starters were recruited by Briles. Remember the qb kid named Kevin Cobb (spelling ??) He is doing great in the NFL now. UH was a doormat when he took it over.

Money?? Really the buyout is no big deal for our athletic dept andor alums . The big deal is hiring the right guy with the right stuff cause it is the admin’s job to manage those type of hires. They are responsible and will make hopefully a good decision for Raiderland!

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Baylor wants no part of Leach!!! His arrogance and overall awkwardness would be weird for the Baptists… And the fact that leach is Mormon…

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Gerald Myers = God.

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Have you read some of the rumors that the Oakland Raiders may hire Leach? That would be a real hoot!

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or is it devil? If he needs protection from his own ….

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Wouldn’t it be a hoot if that was Leach.

You paying?

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I just wish there was a website devoted to me like the tim tebowisms and the chick norris website…. I am just as untouchable as they are…..

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Team Leach up to 51,239 members. Hows that Gerald Myers. Can you compete? And don’t count your security detail.

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Briles did a good job at Houston, I’ll agree to that. Kolb was the QB and was from Stephenville. It just seems like his main attraction to everyone is that he has ties to Tech. Ask yourself this, if he had no ties to Tech, would he even be under consideration? He may very well be. I’m just not ready to jump on the bandwaggon without asking a lot of questions.

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watchdog113

It is not MYERS. It is the REGENTS they called the shot on this, they created the mess. There is a big difference between the THE REGENTS, THE ADMIN and THE AD OFFICE. It is three different groups. Myers and Bailey were out numbered by the THE REGENTS and THE CHANCELLOR. Give credit where credit is due THE REGENTS!!!!! Do your homework.

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it dont matter who you all hire, UT is getting even richer. UT received another commitment from the a manchild 5 star WR out of Ft. Worth. Keep bickering…Lubbock sure likes making headlines for all the wrong reasons.

I be in Lubbock next year…I think you all have a better chance pitting Friendship against the ‘horns!!!

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BRILES IS STAYING PUT – GET OVER IT!

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Hire Ruff

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The story has been updated a little if you haven’t checked it in a while. Bailey says Ruff was phenomenal. Gives him credit for success last couple of years. I felt like the decision had already been made when I heard Bailey talking about the players’ opinions. I think he’s as good a choice as anyone else. He will be under a tremendous amount of pressure. An early season win over UT could help ease a lot of bad feelings, but a couple of early losses will increase the discontent greatly. It’s not really fair to the next coach, but that’s the atmosphere he will be stepping into, and doing so willingly. Good luck.

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ut_prospector

Don’t worry about us. We are from west TEXAS we know how to pull ourselves up by the boot straps and kick up some dust. If I were I would be worry about Alabama !!!!! Why aren’t you at the ROSE Bowl supporting your team.

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Yeah… dont blame me…. Blame Jim Sowell… he can be reached @ jsowell@sowellco.com…. You better make sure he opens his big checkbook for a buyout or to make seats less expensive for everyone at the stadium since the stands will be empty next season if we raise them the 13 percent we had planned on raising them…..

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The Regents didn’t sign the letters, and they don’t have that authority. Nice try to save Myers, but no one is buying that.

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He loves to swing a big stick….. but lets see him pay as loud as he talks……

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Your right… I dont answer to anyone….. I am Gerald Myers…. the Pres and chancellor both answer to the regents…. I do what I want…. although i was outvoted 3-1 to fire My buddy leach…

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Very funny Gerald. Now you need to create an alter ego Don Williams and pretend you are a real journalist.

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Nice guys don’t necessarily make good head coaches. I though Spike Dykes was an outstanding man…but please, compare his bowl record with Mike Leach. No on even heard of the Red Raiders until Leach got here. If Ruff is so good, let him stay at DC for a few more years. Has he really even proven himself there yet? I wouldn’t call this season a break-out season for Tech and I did not think Saturday’s game was a real defensive show for Tech either. Who knows if he can coach with the big boys? I think he will be cheap so the CHEAP TECH ADMINISTRATION will hire him. Remember, though, you get what you pay for…..

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Did I miss something or is Bailey no longer part of the problem? Who cares what he says!

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thanks pa bear…. that don williams(donny-boy as i call him) is a good man… he just hates conflict…. You wont find him swimming upstream any time soon….

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I am getting sick reading this. I know everyone means well for Tech, but many of us have been through this before when Rex Dockery was hired in 1978. I do not want to be the door mat again. I am grateful for Ruff’s loyalty and I hope he gets a HC job somewhere. But what schools would have McNeil on there short list???? We are on the cusp of greatness. History always repeats itself, please don’t do this to us again. Memo to Hance and Bailey; do not try to put this money saving move on Myer’s because everyone knows he can’t tie his shoe laces. This is on you. If you do not form a real search committee and look at proven HC performers you better do it with your job and legacy on the line. I am not a large money donor but I am a consistent one and I will not pay for tickets or donate anymore money if you do not take this serious.

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Let’s get a few things straight. The Board of Regents can’t fire the janitor at Tech, they don’t have the authority. The BOR are in place for policies and hiring/firing the Chancellor. Certain BOR members can influence the AD but ultimately it’s the job of the AD to fire the head coach. The AD reports to the President who reports to the Chancellor who reports to the BOR. The President and Chancellor will back up the decision of the AD. Sources are leaking out Sowell (former BOR chair) and Scovell influenced or offered protection to Myers to pull the trigger.

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Myers and Hance have Tech ties too. Look how that turned out!

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ruff, no thanks. he’s small time to the bone.

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No one has answered my question yet. Why do you think McNeill would not make a good HC? Yes, Dockery and Moore were disasters, but Leach had no HC experience either when we hired him. No one was sure he would work out when he came. McNeill’s defense has improved each year since he was named the DC. The last 3 years, Tech has won at least 9 games, all since he was named DC. What exactly is it that you believe disqualifies him to be a successful HC? I doubt you can name anything specifically.

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http://southfloridalawyers.blogspot.com/2009/08/guy-bailey-jr-disbarred.html

any idea if guy bailey has kids…… interesting article if this is his son…..

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I love this quote by Tech President Guy Bailey…he’s admitting the admin did NOT handle the situation well. Okay, what’s next? Apology? Fire Myers? Your own resignation? You took the first step…keep going…

“We want their voice heard,’’ Bailey said of Tech players. “Our team handled this situation in a phenomenal way. They did a lot better than any of the rest of us did. We’re real proud of them. We have a lot of great leaders there. We wanted to make sure their voice was heard.’’

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Sonny Dykes article
http://www.redraiders.com/2010/01/04/sonny-dykes-says-hes-interested-in-tech-job/

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Donors carry a bigger stick than most of you think!!! Just ask Jim Sowell… You can email him @ jsowell@sowellco.com . Ruffin WILL be our next Head Coach…. It is the only way I can save face!!!! Any more changes will greatly disrupt the team and recruiting beyond repair. So what if I fired one the most influential coaches in the history of College Football. I want everyone to concentrate on our basketball teams now and go support them!!!! I didnt build that biga$$ arena to teach in!!!!

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Rumor down here in the Austin area is that they are looking at Major Applewhite for the Tech Head Coach position

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Of course Guy Bailey wants players’ voices heard now that he has heard they want the cheap-way-out…. Would you expect anything less????

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I will not hire a Mack Brown Prodigy!!! He will want more money than Ruffin!!!

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Tommy Tuberville would be the absolute worst decision. Wrong system, wrong focus and won’t succeed at Tech. Don’t forget he was fired from Auburn. I lived in AL when he coached there. Tech does not recruit (and cannot recruit) the type of athlete his system would require. In addition…BORING!

Hire Ruff and go get Dana Holgerson from Houston for OC. Forget Briles…do we really want to go to Baylor for a head coach?

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Let me be clear, I am not disparaging McNeil or his possible HC ability. We got lucky with Leach at a time when we could not get a top coaching prospect. We were in that position because of previous bad decisions relating to money and probably (like now) ego. But now, thanks to what Leach has done we are in a position to interview some proven performers. We had this chance once before and blew it. That doesn’t gaurantee anything but it keeps us on the national map as a contender. The current players of course want Ruff, he represents not having any change. But I am concerned about future recruits. Good coaching is one thing, great players are another. I would not consider Mack Brown a great coach but he is a great recruiter. I am asking for a legitimate search committee. Tech has earned it, don’t blow it.

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Ruff’s loyalty??!! Good grief! He is just the new pet at Tech. Roll over Ruff. Sit Ruff. Stay Ruff. Good boy, Ruff!! They know he will do whatever they ask. That is all they want. Someone they can control, and Leach is a bigger and better man than that!

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Tuberville would hire an OC that would help keep current O system in place. Read it on line

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the pirate is in down in the forty acres…seeking an entry level job at the UT factory otherwise known as the ‘HORNS!!!

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techex83 – Interested in who you think an available, strong prospect would be? I’ve been through it and can’t come up with any.

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Very funny and smart Watchdog113!!! They just had a thorough investigation and now the Defensive Coordinator has a meeting to meet the Dean? So what they are saying is they didn’t need to talk to the DC about the James situation during the investigation? Obviously the Dean is just going on what the AD told him happened. Also it really reaks that the medical staff changed their statements the day of the game even though they still admitted that nothing done would have endangered James. In fact James was safer in the “shed” than on the field as he could have been accidently hit by a thrown ball or another player. Plus James said he shouldn’t have his eyes exposed to the sun.

I am also tired of everyone saying James was “locked in a electrical closet”. He was never “locked” in any room especially the electrical closet and the “Medical staff” choose where he was not the coach. At least that was “one” of “sworn” statement by the medical aid.

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What’s bad is Ruffin is either the next HC or he’s out of a job. If Tech goes ‘out of house’ and brings in somebody else, no way they keep Leach’s right hand man…doesn’t work like that. The entire staff is pulling for Ruffin.

Ruffin as HC and then he gets to hire a DC, OC and possible a QBs coach.

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I admit it was a great game but don’t any of you realize why? Not because of Ruff. This was Leach’s team playing!

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techex83 DITTO

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McNeill will probably be hired, because this school wants the cheap solution. McNeill is not qualified…he needs to prove himself on recruits & defense. His defense has improved, but they aren’t great by any means. This is a terrible choice.

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Your beating a dead horse….. Ruffin is the next coach…. The decision will be annouced soon to not affect recruiting…. Cheap, obeys, and increases the % of minority coaches in NCAA…. Why do you think we haven’t contacted anyone else about the job!!!

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Jill – Agree…got it…this was a Leach team. That said, Leach is not coming back…no way in hell. The good ole boy network that controls TT have decided. So, we have to move on.

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And BTW…. Bennie Wylie is one of the biggest reasons leach was so successful!!! He is one of the best strength and conditioning coaches in the nation…. and that is why Leach did more with less!!!!

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iINSANITY RULES , THE SAME PEOPLE THAT FIRED LEACH ARE GOING TO HAVE THE SAY SO OF WHO THE NEXT COACH IS AND PEOPLE ARE JUST GOING TO SIT BACK AND DO NOTHING ABOUT IT, THEY THINK THAT BY HIRING RUFF THIS IS GOING TO SAVE FACE, WHAT A LAUGH THAT IS,THE SAME PEOPLE THAT ISSUED STATEMENTS RIGHT BEFORE THE ALAMO BOWL GAME SO THEY COULD GET NATIONAL EXPOSURE ON CRAIG JAMES NETWORK AND TRY AND CONVICT A NATIONALLY RESPECTED COACH INSTEAD OF CALLING THE PLAYS AND DO NOT SHOW THE TECH FANS IN THE STANDS THATSUPPORT LEACH, THEY COULD HAVE WAITED TO THE NEXT DAY TO ISSUE THOSE STATEMENTS, ALL OF THIS IS SO UNBELIVABLE, LIKE I SAID INSANITY RULES IN LUBBOCK TEXAS NO WONDER THE AALIENS CAME HERE IN1953, LUBBOCK LIGHTS, ONLY IN LUBBOCK TEXAS WHERE THE GUTLESS COWARDS AND BOOTLICKERS LIVE..

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As for HC prospcts; to start with you have Tuberville lobbying for the job. Whether you like him (as a HC) or not, with a 13-0 season in the SEC under his belt you are crazy not to have him on your short list.. I have not been tracking coaches to hire but if I were I would be looking at successful coaches in non BCS conferences. TCU and Boise Stae seemed locked up but how about BYU? Utah? … start your list. But if you settle on a “good guy” and you have a couple of bad games to start the season. Our stock will drop fast. Reality.

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Ruffin’s Red Raiders cheered on by Ruffin’s Rowdies!!

Wreck Em……………………

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Why is it that one of the focuses in the emails we’re about Coach Leach’s loyalty. Then the Stooges that cried about it tried to take Coach Briles from Baylor. Isnt this a little contradiction in TTU admins words?

Anyone heard that Gary Patterson might be up for the job?

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Techgrad90, I realize this as well, but I cannot and will not support this university in any way as long as these poor excuses for men are calling the shots! I just can’t. If they do this to Leach, they will do it to anyone. They want a whipping boy and that is disgusting!

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Gerald is treating the hiring of the next head coach as if this is a DIII football program. Leach has made TTU a top notch program and therefore the program deserves a nation wide coach for the best possible coach so that TTU can maintain there status as one of the top programs in the country. If they hire Ruffin, it will be a decision made with the heart because he is a nice guy and maybe he has a place at TTU, just not as a head coach. What does he bring offensively? West Virginia did this very thing a couple of years ago and hired Stewart because the players liked him and he won a bowl game, but he does not have the ability to keep WVU a top program. Coaching a major college program is not a popularity contest, but maybe Gerald wants someone he doesn’t have to pay a good salary – you get what you pay for.

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How about June Jones? He practically invented the spread offense. Oh. never mind that might hurt SMWho and Craig James would never approve of that. I’m thinking of taking myers and hance to small claims court to recover the cost of my tickets, hotel, fuel etc. I was already in San Antonio when they fired Mike and I purchased my tickets under the pretense that I would see a Mike Leach coached team. Isn’t that false advertising like bait and switch? At least if I don’t win, they have to appear and I’ll tie them up for a day or two! Anyone care to join me? Google small claims court texas to see how to do this.

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Look at Tuberville’s 4-year record at Ole Miss…very unimpressive. Yes, he was successful at Auburn…but it’s Auburn. Much like Texas, they just reload with top athletes every year. There are certain places where it’s just easy to recruit…Tech isn’t one of them. Tommy T is a bad choice. And, if he’s just gonna hire an OC to run the show then what’s the point.

Gary Patterson…I’d be all for it; but he ain’t available. Not saying there’s not better choices than Ruff…just saying not any available. Boise State coach would be good fit. So would Utah and BYU…doubt it would happen. Not sure anyone worth a dang would want to come to Tech after seeing the love one gets from the administration and regents.

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INSANITY RULES IN LUBBOCK TEXAS, THE SAME PEOPLE FIRED MIKE LEACH ARE GOING TO BE IN CHARGE OF HIRING THE NEW COACH UNBELIVABLE,ONLY INLUBBOCK TEXAS, SICKENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND GET BY WITH IT BECAUSE NOONE WILL STAND UP TO THESE GODS LET A PUNK KID AND HIS DAD DESTROY A HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM, HIRING MC NEILL WILL SAVE FACE, NOW THATS A JOKE, WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND…

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Didnt you read the emails between Hance and Sowell? This is about money and Ruffin will cost the least amount of money. I cant believe any idiot would not already know who these dumfuchs are gonna hire.

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Ruff went in and did some boot licking and came out repeating the “insubordination and a lack of cooperation toward resolving a complaint of improper treatment of a player” non-sense. Lets face it, Leach was fired for sending an unruley child to timeout.

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Mitchell is the only one with common sense!!! We cant afford Gary Patterson!!!! That is Laughable!!!!! Ruffin Will be our next coach and you can blame the firing on Jim Sowell… He can be reached @ jsowell@sowellco.com . email away!!!!

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BRING BACK THE CAPTAIN OR WALK THE PLANK , THE 3 STOOGES NEED TO SHUFFLE OFF TO BUFFALO AND THE COCKROACHES NEED A NEW SEWER TO GO TO ,CUT OFF THE MONEY AND YOU WILL BE HEARD,

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One bowl game won does not make a head coach! I also think Gerald Myers needs to be fired & run out of town along with Hance close behind him. I hope that Tech will take time and talk with & interview other candidates before just choosing Ruff for the job without giving someone else the chance to be Texas Tech’s next head football coach.

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hey gerald, the first 5 posts were funny, the last 5 arent…getting old….we get it..you are a funny man!

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Myers and Bailey aren’t going any where this year. THEY will hire a new coach.

The “system” is in place, the “system” continues to be successful, proof Alamo Bowl.

Let’s face it Ruff’s going to get the chance to keep the “system” pointed in a positive direction. These other bozos mentioned don’t have what it takes to keep the “system” going. If Ruff can’t take it to the next level in a couple years, time to blow up the “system” and head another direction.

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CUT OFF THE MONEY AND YOU WILL BE HEARD

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come on people….. leach is gone!!!! I personally played a part in burning that bridge!!!!! We can only afford Ruffin!!! The announcement will me made on Thursday @ 9:30am…. after my morning coffee…. There is a reason we havent contacted all the speculated coaches!!!

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INSANITY RULES IN LUBBOCK TEXAS, PERIOD,ONLY INLUBBOCK TEXAS, CUT OFF THE MONEY YOU WILL BE HEARD

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what is up with the 3 stooges to buffalo comments???? y buffalo????

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TECH WILL NOT RECOVER FROM THIS FOR A LONG TIMENO MATTER WHO THE COACH IS…THE DAMAGE IS DONE BY IDITS THAT HAD NOTHING TO GAIN FROM THIS..

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Still no specific answer to my question….Just generalities…..

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what is up with the 3 stooges to buffalo comments???? y buffalo????

Showing your young age, tbone0103. Shuffle off to Buffalo is an old big band era song, I think.

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i see… thanks….

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Ruffin was at Appalachian State! isn’t Jerry Moore the coach there? Hey Tech hires Jerry moore back as OC so we get Moore Excitement Part II. For you youngsters Jearry Moore coached Tech in the 80′s. Those were aweful teams! Sorry former Red Raider players but the Moore Excitement years sucked.

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Alumni magazine was promoting a cruise to Alaska this summer with Coach Leach & his wife. I wonder if all who purchased those tickets can get money back?

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Ruff has already made too many big mistakes.
He said Mike Leach was his best friend- now he is throwing Mike under the bus. I know he wants the job, but he shouldn’t crawl under the desk to please Myers and Bailey. I am sure that thier shoes weren’t the only thing he was shining.
I am sure that we will see Ruff signing an sworn statement soon as well.

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@Mike , well if they put Ruff in his spot, and he goes on that cruise! Just make sure you hit the Bufet line before Ruf!! If not, you will goooo HUNGRY!!!

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@Randy, for what its worth, I had respect for Ruf, until he put his arm around Adams……That was publicity stunt! And it stinks!

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All these people calling for Ruff as coach…did you not see the same game I watched Saturday night??? Did you not see the weak D that we put on that field? Have you all forgotten that MSU was a 6-6 team that was missing 14 players??? MY GOODNESS!! You people want to give this guy the Head coaching job???

When the current players all graduate or transfer out where will be then? If Ruff was such a great recruiter, then why have we had crappy defenses for son long!

Wake up people, he may be a great guy, and a better than lousy D-coordinator, but head coaching material he is not. This would be horrible for Tech in just a few short years!!!

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No one paid to see Ruff on the cruise!

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I guess if your after a lap dog that will do exactly what Meyers wants and will work for peanuts, then Ruff might be our guy!

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I am not, but if I were in charge of a search committee I would have five names before the end of the day tomorrow, and they wouldn’t be McNeil or Dykes. They would however have proven HC experience. At the very least Tech needs to pretend they are looking at top prospects so that we appear to be a big player.

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gary, isn’t everyone a “punk kid” after you’ve lived in “lubbock for 60 years”?

i’d say ‘grow up’, but obviously it’s wayyyyyyyyy to late for that.

move along, nothing here to see.

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Mike……………the way this program is going the summer cruise will be around Buffalo Lakes!!

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Question 1. Can any of the existing coaching staff be considered since they were aware of and did not report the accused wrongful actions? If wrongful actions did exist fear, loyality or monetary loss are not excuses for allowing wrongful acts- doing so is a dereliction of duty. Does the rules allow for an employee under disciplinary action to get promoted.
Question2. Is Craig James in a business relationship with a member or members of TT boosters club or administration?
Question3. Is it a retalitatory act to fire a person who is seeking judicial remedies to a suspension?
Question4. If the action in three is not retalitatory then why not continue with the suspension rather than a firing while the investigation continues?
Question 5. Is filing a legal challenge to an employment action insubordination?
Question 6. Do you think the faculity and staff of TT will want to know the answer to question 5?
Question 7. Is this thing real or is it some kind of “You’re all being punked show?
Seriously, this has got to be a skit for a reality pilot or some kind of lawyer prank.

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My conspiracy theory is this, Coach Leach embarrassed UT last year, seems like all these guys have ties to Austin. When we start looking successful and have a program that winsand takes recruits and money out of UT’s pocket, The powers above start to shut us down. CONSPIRACY I TELL YOU!!!

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O REAL MEN THAT SERVED THERE COUNTRYLIKE THE ONES IN AFGANISTAN AND IRAQ NOT A PUNK THA TIS NOT MAN ENOUGH TO STAND UP FOR HIMSELF AND HAS TO GO TO HIS DADDY WITH HIS PROBLEMS THAT TO ME AND EVERYONE ELSE IS OBVIOUS, I ACTUALLY SORRY FOR THE KID HE WILL ALWAYS BE ONE..

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question 8? joeke, are you an alum? or just a watchdog, garyount, ttrr fan, aka tech basher?

question 9. joeke, did lbj help kill jfk?

question 10. joeke, was nixon “set up” by democrats and watergate?

question 11. joeke, can you really believe conspiracies go so deep, or are you just trolling?

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gary, there you go again. you’re over sixty and you’re trash talking a kid less than 20?

man, you must be lonely.

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man I am sick of all these negative comments. what’s done is done and will not go back. It is called moving on whether it is the popular thing to do or not. Not saying so much who is right or wrong. Just saying lets move forward and be positive and keep our team together. We are supposed to be supporters of our alma matter and not haters. Get real guys and stop acting sooooooooooooo much like little kiddies who can’t watch their show because mom and dad came home! Life goes on and will probably improve.

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@Dog catcher, I know you wanna be the fluffer on the Craig and Adams James porn, but you dont know crap!!!

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Gary if you are at a bar with maybe a lap-top pleaseeeeeeeeeeee get a taxi to take you home before you stroke out. You are killin us all man!

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@RR76 Im calm now about leach, I just dont want the good ol boys makes our program settle for the Dykes family. We have invested to much into this program. Yes I have too! I buy tickets, my kids wear Red Raider Gear! Some of us are just not ready to roll over!

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same to you #1 TT fan and the horse you rode in on…

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I dont ride a horse, I ride a Stryker!! Thanks though!

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I do believe I read this correctly that Bailey said,” It is better to be right than quick.” Well, I guess that depends on what you want to be right about and how much time you plan to take. I hope you get my drift, please tell me you guys are smart enough to interpret my meaning!

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ATTENTION ALL TEXAS TECH ALUMNI:
Join me in withholding all alumni giving and Texas Tech related purchases until Hance, Baily, and Myers, are fired!! All those involved in the Texas Tech Administration who fired Leach with no investigation should be fired! Leach helped them to boost their salaries, expand the stadium, increase Alumni giving, increase enrollment, and graduation rates even increased while Leach was there!! The obvious increase in Texas Tech Pride was due to Leach leading the Red Raiders to the best years they have ever had!! Please withhold your giving…..it is the only way we can be heard!!

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Thanks……. but if you remember when Spike had arrived we had had a line of disastrous coaches and a couple of even worse AD’s. It was Spikes goal to stop the bleeding and he did. Wasn’t perfect but he was very respectful and got us to the next level which only Leach broke Spikes winning record. Numbers mean alot. Best thing about Spike was he was born and bred West Tx and wasn’t really interested in leaving until retiring. He stayed and did what was requested and expected. After he maxed out we went to the next level and now, ta-da!, hopefully we will continue to that next level. But when in Lubbock or Lincoln or Boston it does help to have your coach bein a local type native so you know he likes it already. Otherwise you might find a pirate who shops you every chance he gets (and in the papers to boot!).

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Ideally, I’d like us to go out and get a proven D-1 head coach. Unfortunately, if that happens, the whole staff is usually replaced, which is not what the program needs right now. Unless you can go out and get a Tuberville or Briles and NOT replace the staff, I think you’ve got to go w/ Ruff, get a good OC (Holgerson from Houston?) and a DC and see what happens in the next couple of years….if it goes south, then you’ve got to blow it up and start over….

It’s definitely a gamble to go w Ruff, but it’s the only way we’ll keep any of the top recruits from this year (some have already rescended) and keep any sense of continuity with the team.

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oh! I agree on S Dykes! After his bowl he is not yet ready for prime time. However, actually I think Mike Stooper holds him back!!!

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please someone pink me and wake me up from this nightmare!

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What’s the quote ….
If you forget the past your destine to repeat it…

So we can NOT let this pass, We must stand up and protest!

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I also remember the Spike era, when you would go to the games and TT fans wouldnt even wear support colors. I respect Spike as a man, coach and Dad but 6 Bowl games in 13 seasons ( we only won 2) and the best record was 6-6!!

Fans go to tech games now, and you see and feel the support!! Non TTU fans even watch our games because they are exciting!

Im not ready to turn back the clock, and alot of people agree!!

I support TTU, Athletic programs and our supporters!!! Winning Football helps all aspects of West Texas, especially the economy!!!

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@Red Raider 76

To go forward one must know which way is forward. We were lead into this mess by the same bozos that think they are leading us out of it. I am sorry, but I won’t drink the koolaid and neither should you. Most of wish this was all a bad dream, but the nightmare is a product of the current administration.

Is hiring McNeil a step foward-I think not.
Is allowing Gerald Myers a step forward-I think not.
Is doing something, even if it wrong a step forward- I think not.

It has been widely reported that there was a toxic relationship between Leach and the administration. A good AD would not let that happen, Gerald Myers was at the center of it. I do not trust the current administration to do the right thing and Ruffin should not either.

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Oakland Raiders should hire Mike Leach:

http://www.statesman.com/sports/pro/sports-commentary-raiders-should-embrace-the-pirate-160965.html

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When did you get out of the Army Gary and what was your MOS?

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NEXT YEAR AND FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD EMPTY STANDS, EMPTY HOTELS AND RESTRAUNTS AND I COULD GO ON AND ON , WHAT A FIASCO. ..

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REINSTATE MIKE LEACH , FIRE THE 3 STOOGES AND SEND THE COCK ROACHES TO ANOTHER SEWER, INSANITY RULES INLUBBOCK , TEXAS, AND CRAIG JAMES I HOPE YOU ROT IN HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I’m for whoever can keep this current class of recruits and keep the train runnin’ which to me is Ruff or Tuberville.

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Sonny Dykes,

They cant be serious can they. Oh yeah I forgot the good ole boy system and the 3 stooges running the show.

Tech is a joke. I bet they hire somebody by end of the week before students get back.

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I totally agree with Raider Ride and Willie B. I’m sure Ruff is a great guy, but we need a coach to be innovative to take us to the next level. Tubberville would be totally awesome to have. He is proven and probably should have a national championship if it wasn’t for OU getting in instead of Auburn in spite OU losing in the Big XII championship game. He could really take our D to the next level and might get a bit of a running game going as well. Unfortunately, our cheap administration will go for Ruff to save a buck or two. I highly doubt our admin will pay what is required for a Tubberville or a Bowden. We will go back to being a mediocre team hoping to make it to a bowl game after a few years. It really is going to look embarrassing on national t.v. when we have this newly expanded stadium that is more than half empty at majority of our home games. I believe that scenario will come true if a thorough interview process is not done and we just “settle” on someone that is cheap. Classic example of the Peter principle with Ruff.

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I think whatever they do THEY MUST hire Dana Holgersen back as an OC.

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hire the koach from the lubbock wranglers or the kottonkings.

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DITTO – techex83 and Ride Raider Ride

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THERE ARE NO WINNERS ONLY LOSERS THE BUSINESSES OF LUBBOCK THE PEOPLE HERE IN LUBBOCK AND THE FANS, CUT OFF THE MONEY THERE IS NO OTHER WAY, THEN THEY WILL LISTEN E-MAIL EVERY NEWS ORGINAZATION THERE IS, LET THEM KNOW JUST HOW INSANE THIS REALLY IS..

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I like Tubberville the best; he ran helped run defenses for Miami from ’86-94 (they won 3 natl titles during this time). He was the head DC @ Atm in their ’94 season when they went 10-0-1.
If he’s smart, he’ll keep Riley & the other line coaches and we structure a deal to keep him here at least 5 years on the first contract; if he does well, we secure another 5 & then see where it goes.

I love Ruff but when the camera would pan to help on the sideline during the game & he had that glazed look on his face, especially when the O was on the field, it wasn’t good. Coupled with the fact that we had to score 41 to beat a 6-6 Big 10 team, another thing against him in his Saturday night job interview.

I wish him luck and hope he gets a shot but we need a HC with HC coaching experience.

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How about a brick through HANCES window

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Texas Tech is becoming a rehab facility for has been coaches

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There is not enough time in this to be thorough. I think the admin. is now throwing a few names out there to make it look like a legitimate search. Congrats Ruffin. I wish you all the best.

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Why is Gary copy pasting on 3 different stories?

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ACLU will protest if he is paid anything less.

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If Tubberville is so good, how come he is still looking for a job this late in the season?

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Gary,

get your butt back to bed. you know better to be up without your medication.

Johnny,

throw a brick. you little tortilla chunker you.

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gary, stop punkin kids now. you can get your alzheimer’s medications.

now get back to bed. you can talk to coach rockne later.

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BRING BACK THE CAP TAIN OR WALK THE PLANK, FIRE THE 3 STOOGES AND SEND THE COCKROACH REGENTS TO ANOTHER SEWER, INSANITY RULES IN LUBBOCK , THE SAME PEOPLE THAT FIRED THE MOST SUCCESFUL COACH INTECHS HISTORY IS GOING TO DECIDE THE NEXT COACH,CUY OFF THE MONEY THEN THEY WILL LISTEN THERE IS NO OTHER WAY, E- MAIL EVERY NEWS ORGANIZATION THERE IS, STOP THIS INSANITY..

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I bet they can find a good 4A or 5A coach that has won or come close to winning district somewhere that they could get real cheap. After all, it IS about the money. Read the emails between kent hance, gerald meyers, jim sowell and company. They tell it all. They admit it is about the money.

Nevermind that Mike Leach guided this team to a point where the stands were full all the time, they were on television all the time because they were exciting to watch. Doesn’t that bring in money?

The “powers that be” didn’t want to pay Leach a comparable salary anywhere in the same vicinity as the other big 12 coaches. He was still one of the lowest paid big 12 coaches around. Jim Sowell was upset that he hadn’t won a national champeenship. He pointed to the fact that Mack Brown and Bob Stoops had won and won two of them. But, as someone said earlier, coaching at Auburn, OU, UT and other schools that have long standing traditions and are usually the schools where they simply “reload” the blue chip athletes and plug another batch of top recruits in and go again.

Heck, Mack Brown’s headsets probably are not even plugged in. He just claps after every play and nods his head. No offense to UT or the coach but that’s not far from the truth.

Mike Leach was definitely smarter than the people he worked for, aka Gerald, Kent & possibly Guy. Apparently, they didn’t like it that he was extremely popular albeit a bit quirky. He definitely raised the bar to another level. I’m not sure if Ruffin can fill those shoes even though the players like him as everyone says. However, how’s it going to be when he becomes the HC and the players don’t respond well when he tells them to do something and get more out of themselves than what they are giving? What will they say then? What will they say when he has to reprimand them as Leach had to do in certain instances when they either have negative attitude as Craig James’s daughter did? What will they think when he suspends a kid for tearing up the locker room after a loss?

HC’s have to do what’s best for the entire team and not always be a buddy. The HC has to be responsible for the team performance and sometimes that means making unpopular decisions.

I think that most of you who have said that Ruff will be the next Head coach are right. He’ll be cheap. He’ll do what they say. He’ll lick their hand when they rub his ear, as Randy Gallaway said of Jimmy Johnson’s replacement who was sitting at home on the couch when Jerry Jones called. What was that guy’s name? Barry Swtizer??? We saw what happened to Dallas with someone else running Jimmy Johnson’s team. Dallas did fairly well the next year and won but started down, down, down for a few years.

We all hate to see that happen to TTU. But, we shall soon see. I hope that Jim Sowell is happy. what a stooge.

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Art Briles will be announced as the new Texas Tech Red Raiders head coach.

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bv, can you spell? that’s ok. come on here, spew your venom, go and make another load of fries.

maybe coach leach will still let you make the special sauce for his burgers.

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If it is Ruff, I predict that his health will not let him finish out one year.

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YOU MUST BE ADAM JAMES..

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yes dear. you’re right. whatever you say. now lay down my little cockroach. close your eyes. you’re getting sleepy. the doctor will finish you lobotomy tomorrow morning dear. obviously the first one didn’t take. nite nite

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I like Ruffin as much as the next guy, but lets really look at what he has done. Granted, the Tech D is better now then in recent memory, but lets look at the stats:

Out of all 120 FBS schools:


Pass Defense – Tech is 73rd giving up 225.6 yards per game (5th in the Big 12)
Rush Defense – Tech is 38th giving up 126.8 yards per game (7th in the Big 12)

Total Yards – Tech is 49th giving up 352.4 yards per game (6th in the Big 12)

Points Allowed – Tech is 42nd giving up 22.5 points per game (6th in the Big 12)

He is a “player’s coach” and all of them love him… but i do not know if he has what it takes to move this team forward… our defense is improved but is still only better then half of the teams in our conference, and those were the teams we were beating when we did not have a defense.

Just a thought…

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Ruffin will be the next Texas Tech Red Raider head coach.
The whole Mike Leach mess has been about $$$$$.
The previous coaches Tech has hired to be head coach were not previous head coaches, the reason it would cost them mucho $$$$$.
If they bring in Briles, or anyone of the others on the list they better be willing to take less $$$$$.
They can make Ruffin the head coach and it will at least save them at least a 1/4 of what they are going to pay Leach when he is done with Tech.

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1. Meyers is not the problem with this issue. He was only doing what he was told. Before this season began, he told Admin that he will be retiring next June so those of you that hate him will not have to wait long for his departure.
2. Leach was not fired for his treatment of Adam James. Technically, he was fired for refusing to sign a letter of apology to James and for also refusing to sign a reprimand admitting to wrong doing. Less than technically, he was fired for telling Hance to go F himself when told to sign the two documents.
3. I have mixed emotions about Ruff. He is a good man, a good recruiter and a good motivator. However, our defense has been the weak link and is responsible for most of our losses since Ruff became defensive coordinator (as was Setencich’s D before him). We easily scored enough points to beat Houston and A&M and should not have to outscore the other teams offense to win games. Once we get a consistently good defense to go with the offense, we’ll really have something. That said, the defense has continually improved under Ruff and if he is head coach he will bring in a defensive coordinator (rumors have it that he has made contact with someone with NFL experience to lead the defense) and he will bring back Holgerson as OC. Maybe it will work out with Ruff, but we are stupid if we do not conduct a national search and spend the money to get to the next level.
4. Apparently some folks are withholding money from the Alumni Association in protest of Mike’s firing. Please don’t do that. The Alumni Association is not part of the problem. If you are going to withhold funds from Tech in protect, please target the groups responsible and/or related to the issue (RRC, Athletics, etc). A better choice would be to divert funds from the other groups to the Alumni Association (I am not in any way affiliated with the AA – I just think it’s unfair to hit them and their small staff with this issue).
5. It’s all about the benjamins! Let Tech know how you feel.

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Whoever it is (if other than Leach) would they be on 60 minutes in their own right? I don’t think so. How much was that 15 minutes of national exposure worth? Did the stooges think of that? NO!

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@BVD….

This is about money. If you read the emails between Kent, Gerald & Jim you’d see that for yourself.

(And…for someone who was terribly concerned about supposed spelling errors, you weren’t able to find your “caps” key. Of course, you wrote two sentences, which is probably stretching your attention span to some degree.

I had two spelling errors, one of which was intentional. The “champeenship” is hick talk and intended to mock the leadership which has committed this egregious error in firing the best coach TTU has ever had. Tell me where I”m wrong.

By the way. Your burger is ready.

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Wonder how Ruff would handle the first occurance of a snotty nose kid who tell the coach no.

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Art will be the next coach, they had him in town on friday the day after the incident on thursday. He cannot say anything bad about baylor until we buy him out. The dallas booster will do that. Art is and would be a great coach at tech, he was here with mike and knows the system well and would tweak some. He is my choice since we ran off mike……no one will fire myers since he is retiring soon. So we can just scream all we won’t but no will allpw us to fire him in a booster group, they got his back. Last thing to say is why does no one say anything about the windmill farm james and our chancellor are in together. That is why mike was canned so quick, james went straight to him to complain after adam called home to cry to daddy. Mike screwed up but could not swallow his ego enough to admit he did anything wrong so as we know, his ego and geralds came to a head and no one would give in. So the money guys jumped in to get the coach they wanted now, only thing is art doesn’t kiss butt real well either!

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Boise State coach looked much better than Patterson tonight and he must have a great DC. They were awesome.

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Do you suppose Ruffin will get to keep the shed?

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I think we should hire our next head coach based on how long he can sit in a shed.

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bv,

you messed up the order again. how long have you been working at burger king now?

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Okay… I’ll be serious for a second. It makes no difference who we hire as a coach. The Tech program will not move forward with current leadership in the AD’s office. It will also not move forward because our administration has a Jerry Jones complex. They all want to be the BIG MAN of Texas Tech. There is no way they will allow any successful coach to remain in Lubbock, Texas. One way or another they will drive out all who dare to make become more popular than they are or be paid more than they are. There is the simple truth. Meyer’s needs to go, Bailey needs to either stay out of it or go, Hance needs to be put back in the hole he crawled out of. Has anyone reported on the business connection between Craig James and Kent Hance? Just asking… now back to… “Night of the Living Shed”.

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It amazes me how little our fans know about D1 coaches outside of Texas. I am devastated about losing Mike Leach, but no one in Raiderland gets excited about a coach with the pedigree of Tommy Tuberville, whom is interested in taking “OUR” football program to the next level? He left the University of Auburn in 2008, he wasn’t fired. He left because of an incident with the Board of Regents… sound familiar??? He only coached in one of the premier conferences in the entire nation, the Southeastern Conference. In the ten years he coached at Auburn his record was 85 -40 and his teams won the west division “FIVE TIMES”!!!!!

How many times have we won the south division in the Big 12? Once, and we shared it with Oklahoma and Texas. His 2004 team went undefeated and was ranked #2 in the Nation at the end of the season, not for one week. He beat Auburn’s arch rival Alabama six straight season, not every other year at home.

He was tutored by the great Jimmy Johnson at the University of Miami and has recruiting ties in the Dallas/Fort Worth area and Houston.

People are telling him he is crazy for interviewing at Tech because it is not a high enough profile job for him. The statement was made on ESPN radio on Galloway and company in Dallas/Fort Worth.

PLEASE GERALD MYERS AND MR. HANCE, YOU ALREADY SCREWED US OUT OF OUR COACH. DO THE RIGHT THING AND BRING IN A HIGH PROFILE COACH WHO CAN TRULY TAKE US TO THE NEXT LEVEL… COACH TUBERVILLE!!!!

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I heard that Tuberville has a really nice shed.

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first off watch dog your an idiot Leach is gone and not coming back you and every other idiot that has the same opinions about it need to move on.

Secondly if not ruff i would like too see double t, tommy tubberville get some major consideration he is a proven head coach that is a quality recruiter, but if he comes i would also like too see him leave the base of coaches that we got like mcneil and riley for example.

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WHY NOT CRAIG JAMES? HE AND HIS SON RUN TECH ANYWAYS , BACK TO THE TWILIGHT ZONE, WHAT A CIRCUS!!

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I will decide who the next coach will be, after I talk to Craig.
Then I will E-Mail Hance , telling him what to do.
You got a problem with that?

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Bailey seems to have a Robert McNamara or Jerry Jones approach to management, i.e., to micromanage. He says the decision will be Gerald’s, but if so, why does he need to talk football with Ruff? What is Bailey’s football background? Has he ever been a coach? A head coach? A coordinator? A player? Will he want the players to vote on who quarterbacks the team? On what plays to run? Does he take votes on matters for which he is directly responsible? Why did he only consider Hance’s vote on Leach’s contract terms?

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Ruffin is not the best choice here but is the smartest. He will be the cheapest, most liked by the players and able to hold on to most of our recruits. However, he talks about is body of work. He has been d-cooridnator for only a short time and I go to everygame and find the defense is hardly worth watching they are so bad. Yeah we have players with nice stats like Sharpe, but fact is we couldn’t hardly even slow down not to mention stop MSU except for intercepting 2 terrible floating passes. Ruffin had a full 4 weeks to get his defense ready and they were completely taken apart. How is he supposed to ready offense, defense and special teams from week to week if he can’t do 1 of 3 in 4 weeks.

PS when he was special teams cooridnator all of Tech nation closed their eyes during field goals, kick and punt returns. So overall he is a decent coach, a great guy, but not head coach material. At least not at this point.

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There is a role for Ruff within the football program, but it is not head coach. Our program is situated for a very solid 2010 season, but it will be another 2008 if the program is left on cruise control. The current staff is not deep enough nor experienced enough to elevate the system and schemes for another season. Do not mistake an Alamo victory as validation of the staff’s competence; we beat a 6-6 team that was missing MANY key players by 10 points. These boards are filled with people applauding Leach’s many accomplishments for our program, yet those same people are now calling for a coach that will sacrifice those accomplishments. If the current staff is left to man the ship, we will follow a good 2010 season with successive years of mediocrity. Someone along the lines of Tuberville (or some other bona fide program builder) is the only choice to avoid a plateau and continue our ascension in the national spotlight. A failure to recognize and appreciate this difference is a guaranteed trip to the bottom quartile of the Big XII.

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The Three Stooges (and the fourth Stooge, “Joe” James) are in the worst poker game imaginable. They’ve got a ton of legal bills to come along with the possibility that Leach could raid the current coaching staff.

Bet they are thinking to themselves: What would J.T. King do?

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Good point that hasn’t been discussed before…
Leach could raid the current coaching staff.

Anyway they sure didn’t look at the ramifications of a hasty knee jerk reaction to all this (non-firing offense). Again any worth anything knows that Leach had the upper hand and is in the right. Everyone says that Leach will win the suit. The three stooges.

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@bvd,

Your order was not “messed up”, technically speaking. It was made specially for you.

The spelling comment must have been your usual rebuttal tactic since you didn’t bother to refute anything or probably know how to do that. Shoot the messenger, not the message, right? ha!
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This is all about money. Jim Sowell said so. They were looking for a reason to get rid of Mike Leach. I’m surprised at how many have turned on the winningest coach in TTU’s history, the coach who produced the highest graduation rate in the country, bar none, for his athletes, filled the stadium more than any other coach, raised the recruiting level by increasing the drawing power at TTU, etcetera.

We’ll see how Ruff will be loved when he has to discipline some of the kids. The only kids speaking out against Mike Leach are the ones who he had to discipline or did not start. i.e….adam james, chris whatsisname that ESPN kept quoting and Brandon.

Don’t get me wrong. I think Ruff is a great guy. I doubt he’s got what it takes to take us to the next level. But, he would definitely be cheaper. Jim Sowell will like that. He will tell Hance, Meyers and Baily to hire him.

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Tech Pres.: “McNeil is just the sort of guy we can micro-manage and bully!”.
“Also he fits our el-cheapo budget.”.

Ruffin will fit right into the plan for an empty football stadium.

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ALL BLACK COACHES ARE IMPRESSIVE…..BUT NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO HIRE AS HEAD COACH…….HUM!

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To all who want mike leach back. He is gone and bringing him back will not help. Melbourne Football Club sacked their premiership winning coach back in 1965 the year after he won them a premiership. He was reinstated later that week. They have never won a premiership in the AFL since. The coaches name was Norm Smith he coached Melbourne to 6 premierships. After a successful coach is sacked and re hird they lose their magic.
Texas Tech NEED to hire the best coach they can who will look after the programs best interests.

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No.

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Some still don’t get it. Leach effectively got himself fired when he chose to humiliate the injured player.

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We need to go outside Tech for a coach. This sports inbreeding will keep us at the same level. THe admin likes Ruffin because they will get him on the cheap!

Tech Alum

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He was not injured!! It had been days since he suffered the “mild concussion” . he was being punished for smarting off.

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Hello Texas. It’s a done deal. I already ordered him an eye patch. And Jason55, too bad your mama never locked you in a shed. The James kid humiliated himself with his behavior. Losers like you will never understand that simple fact.

RAIDERS! OAKLAND BABY!

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Is there any truth to the rumor that Ruff was seen washing Hance’s car and taking Myers’ laundry after the interview?

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Tristain:

The Melbourne Football Club? Seriously?

This is Texas, Hoss, not Austrailia.

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Tubs would be a great coach at Tech. Rumor is that family matters affected his performance the last year or so at Auburn. He is a players coach. Don’t forget he did win a NC at Miami as Jimmy Johnson’s DC back in the 80′s. My wife went to Tech and I went to Auburn. The personalitities of the schools are very similar, interstate rivals are similar (Alabama is hated by us as much as A&M and the Horns are by Tech).

Good Luck!

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And so the three interviewers are the leaders of the group that conspired for at least a year to cheat Mike Leach out of his bonus and subsequent pay. These are rats who are in charge of the cheese.

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Are you guys kidding me. Being a great guy does not make you a great head coach. Please, please, please do not hire Ruffin as the head coach. We just put this thing together. We need to build for the future, not regress to mediocrity!! If we hire Ruffin we can all feel really good about ourselves for about half a year and then when the wheels come off and we are back to square one within two years, then what? We start over with bottom 50 recruits and an empty stadium and it takes us until 2020 to get us back to where Leach had us? Nothing is fail proof, but lets get a figure head like Tuberville with great coordinators (maybe even Ruffin) under him and take this thing to the top!

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chris whatsisname that ESPN kept quoting

They also neglect to add James’ roomate. Think that’s why he speaks the way he does?

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I don’t understand the love affair with Ruff with regard to being a HC. He seems like a great guy. But he is 51, didn’t get a coordinator position untill 2yrs ago (and only after the DC was fired mid season). There is a reason he hasn’t risen through the ranks. Most great coaches become coordinators early in there careers and become HC by mid 40s or so. How many great coaches have a resume as thin as Ruffs? How many were promoted to HC at 51 with only 2 yrs as a coordinator?

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Lemmings. Too many “Hire Ruff lemmings” on this thread. HoustonRaider, you are 100% correct.

If we hire Ruff, his first task should be improving the defense and hiring a better Defensive Coordinator. So why again are we hiring Ruff? Do we think he put together the offense that looked so impressive against the Spartans? No, he coached the defense that yielded 400 yards to a depleted Big 10 offense.

Ruffin is a good coach, good for the program. He still needs development.

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Leach did promote him to Co-Head Coach! Go chech the bio on TexasTech.com

And the knife really hurts.

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Defense wasn’t too bad if you fix the big hole in the middle, esp. when we send pressure on the QB. That one interception was due to a rush. It worked that time.

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Hey look athe money players that make the decisions, every single one is a staunch Conservative. It shouldn’t be that way, but that’s the way it is for the admin and regents. You think they’ll hire a black head coach? They’ll get Tuber…or some other southerner from the deep south…

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HEY MIKE HAVE YOUGOT THAT KNIFE OUT OF YOUR BACK TET?

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REINSTATE MIKE LEACH YOU IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!

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It seems to me that a lot of the members of “Team Leach” should identify themselves more as members of a “Leach Mob”. They want to tar and feather (or worse) Adam James, the chancellor, president, Board of Regents, and gee, why not throw in another few 19 and 20 year old players who might dare give an unfavorable opinion of Mike Leach.

Having graduated from Texas Tech, it was my understanding at the time that I was attending an educational institution. I expected the administrators to devote most of their time to matters involving improving the quality of the education I was receiving and that future generations will receive. I now find out that the only thing that should matter to the administration is whether our football team has Mike Leach as its head coach. If he’s not, maybe the entire administration needs to be taken out on the darkest night and chained for three hours to the back end of Will Roger’s horse.

Although I don’t personally think that Ruffin has the credentials to be a head coach of a football team of Tech’s standing, some of the comments being made about him for seeking the job are downright offensive and make me want to throw up. He owes his loyalty to Texas Tech; not to Mike Leach. I believe the same is true of the fans.

Mike, you did a great job these past 10 years. I was shocked and saddened upon hearing of your dismissal. But you were hired to coach the football team; not to run the university. Further efforts on your part the ruin the university will greatly diminish your magnificent legacy.

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The Hance, Meyers, and Bailey crowd need to decide how a team is to molded and guided with no rules or discipline.

We’ll have a nice, family team that enjoys playing, but not a winning team that will fill the stadium.

A winning team needs rules and a coach that is allowed to enforce them without being micro-managed into ineffectiveness.

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Not everyone who is criticizing the administration is a Leach junkie. I liked Leach, but I’m not looking for a bridge to jump off of or anything. However, I am disgusted with the administration which took a Mickey Mouse incident and turned it into a nation-wide incident that made Tech look foolish. That’s the sort of thing that won’t soon be forgotten. The timing could not have been worse, and none of it had to happen if not for a knee jerk reaction from the administration. It was simply unneccessary and the people responsible for mishandling the situation need to be held accountable, starting with the Director of Athletics.

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Yeah, first thing wait till after February and then go see a counselor/mediator to work out the problems.

I thought these big wigs (three stooges) knew something. How did they ever get into management?

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THE LEACH JUNKIES APPRECIATE WHAT LEACH HAS DONE FOR TECH, WE DONT TURN A BLIND EYE TO WHAT HAS HAPPENED, TECH IS GETTING BAD PRESS FROM AROUND THE WORLD, HAS ANYONE EVER HEARD OF INTEGRITY? COACH HAS THAT WITHOUT QUESTION,, HE WAS NOT GOING TO ADMIT TO SOMEHING HE DID NOT DO, THAT IS RARE IN TODAYS WORLD, IS HE COMING BACK STRANGER THINGS HAVE HAPPENED, BUT MY GUT TELLS ME NO, I WOULDNT AS LONG A S YOU HAVE EVIL AND THATS WHAT THEY ARE PEOPLE IN CHARGE THIS IS ALLL ABOUT POWER AND MONEY, NOBODY AND I MEAN NOBODY HAS WON OR GAINED FROM THIS, GO AHEAD AND KEEP STANDING UP FOR A CORRUPT AND SICKENING ADMINISTRATION, AS FOR ME I WILL NOT TURN MY BACK ON A GOOD MAN THAT HAD GUTS AND STOOD UP FOR WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS RIGHT.

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Strive for honor right?

From the Cockroaches’ website “excellence and integrity” Ha what a joke.
Looking at where all his money was made all you DFW’s financed all this fool’s work.

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Obviously, you can tell that I am an OU fan from my name. I wish we had been able to keep Mike Leach at OU for a few more years, but it’s apparent that he was ready to be a head coach. Texas Tech’s administrators will regret the day that they got rid of Mike Leach. He, no offense intended to Spike Dykes, put Texas Tech on the national football map. He made Tech a destination desirable for some very gifted players who wanted to be a part of his “system”. The way in which Leach was run out of Lubbock will make other coaches wonder if the same will happen to them if they somehow fail to live up to the expectations of the administrators.

In my opinion, Tech is in for a few turbulent years.

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John that why the label of stooges and cockroaches fit.

stooge – bafoone who messes thing up.
coackroach – unwanted pest.

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it would be a huge mistake to hire McNeill as head coach.

but then again that’s something tech is good at doing – making mistakes regarding head football coach

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Hey Shirmp I am a red raiders fan i was using the Norm Smith Sacking as a similar instance to what has ahppened to Mike Leach and WHY Texas Tech Should NOT re-hire him I feel that would do more harm than good. Many teams I have supported have sacked coaches for one reason or another and MOST will never re hire them. The Leach Era is over We all need to move on. Texas Tech need the BEST COACH we can get for the program to keep it above .500 we are still the only team in big 12 history to always have a winning season. I want that to stay that way.

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But doesn’t it matter the “reason” they were fired?

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GERALD MEYERS FOR HEAD COACH!!!!

Hell, he has to be good at something, it sure isn’t coaching basketball or being an AD.

Maybe some of you Burger King guys need a hand at the grill?

Ruff is probably gonna get the job. I’ll sure pull for him and the team. Who knows, given a chance, he may really work out well.

I just hope the admin isn’t stupid enough to hire another attorney who never played a down of college ball!!!

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AND HAVE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT FIRED MIKE LEACH HAVE THE SAYSO OF WHO GETS HIRED, I TRULY HOPE THAT WE ARE ABL E TO GET A GOOD COACH BUT NOT UNTIL THESE IDIOTS ARE FIRED, IF I WAS MIKE LEACH I WOULDNT COME BACK , YOU COULD NOT PAY ME ENOUGH MONEY, I WISH HIM WELL BUT DONT THINK FOR A MINUTE THIS IS GOING TO GO AWAY ANYTIME SOON.I WOULD NOT GIVE ONE RED PENNY TO TECH UNTIL THESE EVIL PEOPLE ARE GONE, WHY SUPPORT THE DEVIL HIMSELF, DONT MAKE SENSE TO ME,

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Can anyone tell me where the organization is to oust bailey, meyers and hance? Or are we just hoping that the weight of all these post will do the job?

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Tommy Tuberville is a proven winner. Texas Tech needs a proven winner. TT needs TT.

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tech74 I think that’s the point of the Facebook page.

http://www.facebook.com then search for “Team Leach”

Leach will probably only come back if they are gone.

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TTUstud08 is spot on the money. Ruff is NOT head coach material. When he says look at his body of work he invites some serious criticism. He may be a nice guy, good recruiter and motivator, but he is NOT head coach material at this point. He has only done a mediocre to fair job with the defense. The Alamo Bowl win did not prove anything to me. It was Mike Leach’s plays and Lincoln Riley’s offense that one this game. Ruff just stood on the sidelines and took the credit. His record as special team’s coach was less than stellar. Ruff has nothing on his resume that says he can compete with Bob Stoops or Mack Brown–NOTHING, except an Alamo Bowl win that had been prepared for by Mike Leach. I’m really not interested in what Baron Batch, Jamar Wall, or Brandon Carter have to say on the matter. They will be gone very soon. No one can deny that Ruff is well liked by his players, but as one poster accurately described him: he was the mamma while Leach was the disciplining dad. WE MUST HAVE SOMEONE WITH SOME NAME RECOGNITION and a commitment to Texas Tech. Art Briles should be first on the list and Tommy Tuberville should be second.

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I hear all this stuff about hiring Tommy Tuberville, he did a great job at Auburn, Auburn, bigger stadium, bigger budget, higher profile, look at what his record was at Ole Miss, that is going to be more comparable to what he would be able to do here and the recruits he would be able to get. Art Briles, oh yeah, what has he done, oh Baylor won 5 games this year, yeah hire him that would be great. You can say all you want to if he only had Robert Griffin then they would have won more, well they didn’t. Plus the school will be entangled in a huge lawsuit and will not be able to pay a buyout, contract, and a settlement all at the same time. The smart choice is to give the job to Ruff, let him show the world that he is a class act, a great ambassador. And all you guys saying he can’t recruit, THESE ARE HIS AND LINCOLN RILEY’S RECRUITS. Leach was not in the homes until after January. WRECK ‘EM!!! Oh yeah Leach is gone move on, we will play football next year.

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tech74: the only way to oust bailey, meyers, and hance is to let your money (the stoppage of it) SCREAM at them

Cut off their God (money) & maybe they will slink away.

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Some of these coaches are big names. But think about it if it wasnt for leach none of them would consider tech worthy if he didnt bring us to where we are, also we gotta make the right move and keep lincoln riley or we will definately lose some recruits.

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Briles won’t come to Lubbock, when he is told you must keep this coach (Ruffin). Myers hasn’t got it figured out yet, he ain’t God. Tuber will do what ever Myers says cause nobody else will hire him, makes him number on Myers/Hance lists. Any bets? Till Tech gets a new chancellor and athletic director the University loses. What this will cost Tech over the next few years will be staggering, more than Hance can ever hope to bring in. Good Luck Coach Leach. Most of us understand you’re not coming back and rightfully so. You’ve got now where to go but up, not so for the other three fellows….

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I think Ruffin would be the best choice for the job!!!! And for those of you who think Tubberville is the best choice you have the same amount of intelligence as Gerald Myers, which isn’t much. My grandfather was heavily involved in Tech athletics for a long time and knew Gerald Myers, Spike and others in the athletic department and I think he is rolling over in his grave right now over the way things have been going. Myers and Hance, who if you haven’t heard, have been planning this since last season. There are email proof of this. Anyway, you have to have players respect as a head coach and Ruffin has the respect of the players. We need that to move forward. Get a guy in there who knows nothing of the players, the program, etc and you will take several steps back in all respects. HIRE RUFF, GO RUFF and GO TECH. FIRE HANCE / MYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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LUBBOCK, Texas — Texas Tech athletic director Gerald Myers said Monday that interim coach Ruffin McNeill will be strongly considered for the permanent job.

Sounds like GM CYA for anyone but Ruffin.

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Myers is in charge of the hire? Good Lord. I think we may get the equipment manager from Muleshoe as our next coach/

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Tom,

Step out of Lubbock once and awhile. All the radio talk show hosts outside of west Texas say Tuberville is selling him self short interviewing for the job at Texas Tech. He is a high profile coach who could take our football program to the next level and compete with the big boys on a permanent basis. Let’s settle for Ruffin McNeill and in three years we can go back to the glory days of Jerry Moore who gave us those great 3-8 years. Yippeee!

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i think what would make us feel better about this whole thing is if we could get the three stooges and use them as pinatas with all the disgruntled fans taking five swings. It would be interesting to see what they are made of.

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THINK!!! Who has earned the right to be the HC?

Get Ruff! Give him the money he deserves (don’t low ball him). Get behind him… Support TECH!

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Does mcneill have time to coach in between meals? Look at the above picture where he is hugging riley. Looks like he is saying ” Just say what i told you to say and it will be okay.” I still vote for Coach Leach to return and the three stooges and sissy boy to leave.

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Tech should only hire someone who understands the “fat little girfriends” concept… because that’s what “classy” Mike Leach knows…. You would never hear those words from “Tommy from Auburn” or any other major league college coach, right?

Has Leach left town yet?

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For what it’s worth Gerald is not considering Ruff ………

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Tech should only hire someone who understands the “fat little girfriends” concept… because that’s what “classy” Mike Leach knows…. You would never hear those words from “Tommy from Auburn” or any other major league college coach, right?

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I think RUFFIN MCNEILL should get the head coaching job he knows the system at tech the players really like him he would
make a great coach if givin the chance afterall he’s got the alamo bowl under his belt now as interim coach he gets the job
done, now its sucks that MIKE LEACH GOT FIRED,and I wish there was prayer to bring him back, but I know thats not going
to happen. I just don’t like the way Mike LEACH LEFT the way he did, but I hope RUFFIN is picked and I hope he can do
a better job at coaching.

WRECK EM TECH

GO RED RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UNTIL NEXT FOOTBALL SEASON

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one last thing, in all the posts that i have read since Mikes firing, not a single one gives gerald meyers, kent hance, or guy bailey their support. this university can function just fine without them just like the football team did at the alamo bowl. right?
i would really love to see them leave and take adam in his stroller.

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Kentucky’s head coach just “resigned.” He will be replaced by Leach who was an assistant there in the past. This will enable the Wildcats to be competitive in the SEC. Much like Tech in the Big 12. Good luck, Mike. You will give rebirth to the UK program. In the meantime, Tech will FALL, FALL, FALL! All because of a girly-boy named Adam James, an unethical dad named Craig James, and the brain trust of Tech’s football program named Moe, Larry, and Curley.

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Ruff is a GREAT Person, but by no means Head Coach material.
He needs to work on his defensive coaching first.
Giving up 31 points to a 2nd rate MSU offense is poor at best.
Giving up 50 plus points to Texas A&M even worse.

TTU admin just wants to cut cost, save $12.7 Mill by giving Ruff a raise and pay him $100K per year.
Talk about a savings…they can use all the savings to pay for lawyers and eventually PAY Leach what they owe him.

So, TTU admin be careful Karma is a B**** !!!!

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Can someone please tell me just what triggers a …”Your comment is awaiting moderation”…. I have several of these each day and really don’t understand why. Are some posters just automatically censured? Thanks

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More to the above question… I try to use good grammer……. sometimes in a hurry that is not always the case… but I try nevertheless… I try not to scream my enitire post……. LIKE THIS……. THIS IS SCREAMING….

So what’s the deal? Surely posters are not censored because of the positions they take on a particular subject…

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Lubbock, Tex.—Texas Tech starts to interview candidates for the head coach position, and Team Leach is on the high seas of the South Plains. Armed with flags, eye patches, double Ts, and protest signs, these students have scheduled another stand-in:

The TEAM LEACH “Reach for Leach” rally will take place on Thursday, Jan. 14 at 1 p.m. at Memorial Circle!

School will be back in, so this will be huge! Bring your signs, cameras, your voice, come out in pirate attire, and be ready to make some noise!

Celebrate what Coach Leach did for us, and give him the send off he deserves! Be civil, respectful, and be positive!

http://teamleach.org redirects to this event if you want to share the link with friends!

As stated on their Facebook page, Team Leach has almost reached 54,000 members. This could fill the Tech Jones Stadium, and this is about 20,000 more members than there are students enrolled.

These students demand for their voices to be heard.

But I have some advice for Team Leach, and here it is.

Tech is getting a new coach, regardless if you like it or not. (My vote is Tuberville: War Eagle!)

Team Leach needs to start pushing for a change in how the Tech administration treats the student.

Get involved with Student Government and petition the university; demand that the administration should start listening to the student voice.

Think about it. Change has happened over much less circumstances.

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i am so happy for the tech guys

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you guys did awesome you have never let me down go tech

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Whoever they select as the new coach, I hope everyone gets behind them and gives them their support, because the players deserve it.

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Everyone’s support has to try & fix a BIG mistake.

Is that fair??

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WORD OF WARNING TO ALL POTENTIAL TTU HEAD FOOTBALL COACH CANDIDATES:
After you give your heart and soul to this school and football program the administrators will get sick of you the same way they got sick of Mike Leach. They won’t want to pay you what you’re worth and they will find some lame excuse like (Adam James) to terminate you after you’ve built a program that receives national recognition for them. This schools administration is not to be treusted. If they can do it to Mike Leach they can do it to anyone.

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HOW MUCH LONGER DOES MEYERS, BAILEY AND HANCE HAVE LEFT ON THEIR CONTRACTS??

= NO ONE PERSON IS ABOVE THE WELFARE OF OUR UNIVERSITY ?!?

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FIRE MYERS! FIRE HANCE! FIRE BAILEY! UNTIL THEN, TEXAS TECH IS NOT GETTING ANYMORE OF MY MONEY!!!

I CARE DITTLEY SQUAT ABOUT WHO THE NEXT COACH IS, MY NUMBER ONE CONCERN IS GETTING THESE GOOD OL’ BOYS FIRED!!!

TRYING COVERING THAT AJ!

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Let’s not hire Ruffn N Not Ready just because it’s convenient. We did that with jug-head Myers and look what a great AD he’s been.

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Ruffin! He will remain committed to the current offense. The KEY is his offensive coordinator. Ruffin will contine to call the shots on defense…though it’s got to get better. Ruffin can recruit. That’s half the battle.

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my name is “wazoo”. i love to post, but i never offer any answers or solutions.

bring batch leech? – nope
fire meyers? – nope
fire bailey? – nope
fire hance? – nope
whine? – that’s what i do best.

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Apparently, Mr. McNeill is truly a nice guy. Popular. Everybody loves him. All that is good. But, are we talking about a winning team or not? McNeill might very well be able to come through — who knows? And that is the exact point: He is an unknown. He led the team through the Alamo Bowl, but not too gloriously. And the game plan had already been prescribed by the man-we-shall-not-mention. Right? So, what do we really know about Mr. McNeill except that he a genuinely good man?

Most of us want a winning team — again.

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Everyone thinks that there are no winners here but it seems to me that the Tech administration seems to be winning, ESPN gets a huge win, the James family looks like it has won, the kid was at the game with a huge smirk on his face and the only real loser here is Coach Leach. The players seem to have turned away and even the coaching staff. It seems to me that the Leach band-wagon has gone away.

I love Raider football and I will continue to watch because I am a Raider till I Die. I wish Coach Leach the best, I hope that in the end justice will be served. I hope that he lands another coaching job and you can bet that I will watch his team win.

The administration gets to do what they want whether you like it or not. Let’s face it, you’re still going to attend the games and give them as much of your money as possible. Unless the stadium is empty come next season, we have lost and have allowed the administration to run over us as well. If MIke is innocent, I say we boycott next season in his support and do so until the administration is forced to resign. This is the only way we will get our voices heard, otherwise, you have all failed to show your real support.

I would love to see an empty stadium in honor of Coach Leach. WE HAVE MORE POWER THAN THE ADMINISTRATION AND WE MUST MAKE OUR STAND by NOT ATTENDING OPENING GAME. THIS WOULD BE HUGE!!!

MAKE YOUR VOICES HEARD.

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Pa Bear well said!

I want TUBERVILLE NOW

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HB kudos to you

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it’s the only thing that ever has.
Margaret Mead

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What makes any of you believe that a majority of the Tech students give a flip about Leach? They come to get an education, spend most of their time (hopefully) studying, and try to find a job after graduation. How many of the student population actually attends the football games? They are just, for the most part, a Saturday afternoon (5-6times a year) diversion from academia as it should be. When I was in college, the football team had 2 coaches in the 4 years I was there and the team was pretty successful. Most of the students didn’t really care; they had too many other things on their mind, namely to graduate and contribute to society and not be a burden to it. Most of the hate-mongers who have been posting on all of these sites the last week, need to relax, step back, and figure out how important the lost of this egomanic Leach is to the grand scheme of things. Needless to say, Leach is gone forever and the sun will still rise in the East tomorrow morning; back to life.

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It is a moot point, Hance and Merers will pay no more attention to the wishes of the fans and alums than they ever did. Throw your words to the wind and forget it.

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Freddie
WHOA never new a Raider could be so negative. I think you are missing the points. Leach deserves his due, he elevated the football program to a National Level. People from across this country who are not Raiders enjoyed watching our games. There is a lot issues going on here.

Leach has endeared himself to the Student body and Alums. He was very popular with the young and old.
His Football teams filled the Stadium. $$$$$
Some people are upset that he was fired especially before a National Bowl game.
The emails are sooooo embarrassing to our University!
People are upset with the way this went done.
Many are upset with the way the AD and Admin are handling the issues.
Furious that no one will step up to the plate tell it like it is.
People care about Tech and are upset how this has damaged our University.
They know it will impact fund raising on the academic side.
We matter and we deserve to be treated better, we care don’t blow us off.

The list goes on!

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My focus was on the students (now) at Tech. Previous comments, by alums(maybe) and otherwise fans keep talking about how the students were let down and how disappointed they are. My question again is, just how “hurt”, disappointed, etc. is the everyday student. How many of the 11,000 or so alloted student tickets are taken, week in and week out. I still say this ordinary student, trying to get an education and graduate before he runs out of money, cares little about the drama surrounding this whole affair. When McNeill is hired, and he will be, those same students will fall back into their regular habit of game attendance, or not. If the stadium holds 65K and 11K students show up, that’s only at most 17%. I’d wager that on game day, there won’t be 17% in student attendance. The same holds true of the basketball games. Wouldn’t it be interesting to know how many of the 100′s of posts on these sites are actually Tech students.

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Thanks Ruff for keeping the troups together & a positive attitude!! No mention about June Jones!! Keep Ruff & see what happens. Would love for him to have a shot & we not make a hasty choice. If it doesn’t work out & we get rid of the three stooges we can make a choice w/o their input. Then someone brings up rick aggie perry to get involved. God help us all!! Speaking of a&m how bout the coach at W.T.A.M. Plays our kind of football !!!

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Did someone say hasty choice?

Texas Tech is know all over for that!

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