Leach shocked by Aggie outrage over draft comments
BY DON WILLIAMS l AVALANCHE-JOURNAL
Mike Leach signed his new contract two months ago and ended spring practice a week ago, yet the Texas Tech coach wandered into the headlines again this week in what’s supposed to be down time.
Leach said Wednesday he’s shocked that a comment he made about Texas A&M’s Stephen McGee stirred up a hornet’s nest in College Station.
“The remarkable thing is, all my life I’ve never been upset with the Aggies one time,” Leach said. “They get upset with me anywhere from every four to six months. However, of all the times they’ve gotten upset with me, our fans or anything I’ve ever said, it takes a heck of a detective to find something offensive in what I had to say about the draft.”
Sunday, after the Dallas Cowboys took the former A&M quarterback with the first pick in the fourth round, Leach told a reporter from The Dallas Morning News, “I’m happy for Stephen McGee. The Dallas Cowboys like him more than his coaches at A&M did.”
That perturbed A&M coach Mike Sherman, who addressed the issue each of the next two days.
On Wednesday, Leach said he can’t see what the big deal is.
“I never questioned the handling of the (A&M) players in any way and have always expressed the utmost respect for their coaching staff,” Leach told The Avalanche-Journal.
“I’ve always said that it is truly exciting to play Texas A&M – the quality of coaches they have, the great team and great tradition and, above all, the quality of players they have,” Leach continued. “I’ve always known A&M had great players. The fact that they have the luxury to put a third- or fourth-round draft pick on the bench, to me, identifies what a truly great team they are.
“It’s an honor for us at Texas Tech to have the opportunity to play them. There are numerous players on our team that will never get a look or play a down in the NFL, so you can imagine how exciting it is for me and them to go play a team the magnitude of Texas A&M and look over there on the bench and see third- and fourth-round draft picks.”
Leach has been a burr under Aggie saddles. His teams have beaten A&M seven times in the last eight years, extending Tech’s recent dominance to 11-3 in the series since 1995. Leach has mixed praise for A&M and its traditions with his wry humor.
After a narrow victory in College Station in 2006, he said, “Glad we got out of here with a win. This is a tough place to do it. Once in a while, a pirate can beat a soldier, you know?”
That was a reference to his self-styled team of pirates and A&M’s Corps of Cadets.
On Monday, in the Austin American-Statesman, Sherman responded that McGee was the Aggies’ starter until he got injured last year. McGee, who started three games as a senior, said he was hurt, not benched, as some believed. Sherman went on to say that Leach had no place commenting on Sherman’s relationship with McGee.
On Tuesday, Leach said he was sorry if Aggies were offended, but didn’t apologize. He then wondered aloud where Sherman thought McGee should have been drafted, given Sherman’s background as an NFL head coach.
Apparently, that prompted Sherman to release a statement sent out late Tuesday through A&M’s sports information office.
In it, Sherman said: “There is nothing Mike Leach could ever say that would offend me. I do find it unfortunate, however, that a college coach feels the need to question the handling of a player by a staff particularly without any knowledge of the facts or the extent of a player’s injury. It is equally bothersome that a football coach would question the draft status of a player. This doesn’t make any sense to me.”
Sherman added that, numerous times before the draft, he said McGee figured to be a late third- or early fourth-round pick – right where the Cowboys took him.
Leach said he was surprised the tempest had drawn as much attention as it had over several days.
“How can anyone not be shocked that they’re offended by this?” Leach told The A-J. “How is that possible? I mean, they’re the ones that keep issuing these official statements. I haven’t issued any official statement. I just answer questions when somebody asks me one.”
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Leach is freaking awesome :)
A&M used to deny that a rivalry existed with Tech for years, and you know, they are right, Tech owns them. The Aggies actually booted Baylor out of the Big 12 South toilet, and all their third and fourth round picks can get used to last place for a while.
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I love Leach’s humor sometimes.
How exciting it is to play a team like the aggies and see a 4th round draft pick sittin on the bench. Its priceless.
I have to feel bad for McGee, though. being “inured” and all.
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rivalry? the last time i seen it tech thinks every game is a rivalry . ut vs a&m is a rivalry. ut vs oklahoma is a rivalry. none of these other teams really give a crap about tech. tech has the worst fans when it comes to sportsmanship. most of the other teams in the big 12 actually have respect for one another.
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Way to go Coach Leach!!
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Taylor must be an Aggie, he is stupid if he thinks A&M vs Texas is a rivalry, A&M vs Baylor is a rivalry, moron.
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Taylor, in the last 15 years, A&M is just 4-11 vs Texas Tech. You are correct, that does not constitute rivalry status.
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Well, well. Leach the whiner ought to start up a fantasy team of his NFL wannabes, call them the Lubbock Windmills or Pilgrims. Seriously farmers, anyone who finds this clown worthy of praise…well lets just say you deserve to live in Lubbock. How sad…fear not Tech is not leaving and if you should ever have the courage to think for your self. The angry right wingers will not care.
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Aggy vs Sand Aggy – what a great rivalry!
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Boneyard, nice jab; here’s one back 39-33. For a TU person to call anyone else a whiner is pretty ironic, since you have the greatest whiner on the planet as your coach, old Mack. You know, he agrees to rules, then wants to change them. Oh, did I mention 39-33?
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Taylor, you’re right there with the question of rivalry with Tech. Afterall, how could it be much of a rivalry if you loose To the Red Raiders every year, lol. All of this BS about about McGee was stired up by the media over a mere little typical Mike Leach joke that wound up being taken the wrong way by a bunch of losers that they are, the aggies. Notice that i don’t think they deserve the right to have a captl A, lol.
Whats really pathedic is the aggie coach getting all upset over notrhing and trying to make himself look heroic, lmao! The aggies go and hire what they thought would be their savior, in coach mike sherman. Now theres a bigger joke to the NCAA world than the aggies themselves, lol. They hire a loser of a coach from the NFL that couldn’t keep a job and now are finding out that he’s no better of a coach in the college ranks either. I give him one more year of being a loser to the aggie fand then he will get the ole gigg’em thumb up his butt, lol.
Oh by the way, there never has been and never will be any rivalry between the aggies and the Longhorns. The only rivalry we at UT have ever had and still do, is with OU. We at UT have only tollerated the dumb butt aggies cause the’re not that far from us. There has been only two good aggie coaches at A&M. Emory Ballard and RC Slocum. It looks like the Joke is on the aggies yet again, lmao! I mean hey, we all need a good laugh every now and then and thanks to our college station windmill pilgrams, we have no problem finding a good laugh when we need one, hehehe. Come on mike sherman, cry us all another river of tears cause someone made fun of your pathedic ass again…..Yall know that i could keep goin here b ut im bored now, lol. Peace out Raider fans…..
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To all dead ray duhs fans, go ahead and order 39-33 printed on your tombstones, because you are not going to be happy with the final score on September 19, 2009. 39-33 nothwithstanding, Leach is only 2-7 vs. UT and 0-4 in Austin (not to mention 0-5 in Norman). That will be 0-5 in less than 5 months. 2 wins (both in wubbick) and by a combined total of 10 points. Try this one on for size as well, Texas has won 43 times against tech and lost only 14. If you think that is a rivalry then keep dreaming!
HOOK ‘EM HORNS!
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Are all you guys in jr. high? I bet none of you ever played a down of football. I bet you were in the band or golf team.
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lubbock is the armpit of Texas & mike leach is the stench coming from the armpit!
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I am an Aggie, I’m not outraged. I could care less what Mike Leach has to say about Stephen McGee, Mike Sherman, or anything to do with Texas A&M University.
I would consider UT a rival at every level including academics and athletics. Tech, Baylor, OU, OSU, and any other school in the Big 12 I would consider as teams that A&M needs to beat to improve our record. No more, no less.
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A&M vs Baylor a rivalry? I believe that the record over the last 24 years is 22-2 A&M.
and
A&M has the advantage in the history of playing Tech.
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Why do the Aggie fans really hate Leach?
Hint: It has something to do with the numbers 7 and 2.
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The day is coming when Tech gets all the players in place and marches all the way to the national championship !
Go Tech !
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Rumely – Not for long ! what next years victory will make it even
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Still, besides all this silliness, Harrell deserves a shot at the NFL, give him a chance I say, this is what has Leach upset in the first place, but don’t take it out on McGee, he didn’t do anything to Leach. Yes, Tech has ruled us for quite some time, hopefully this year will be the beginning of a change with that problem.
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This is Deja Vu. Everytime an aggie gets “offended” they say the same thing: name calling, attack geographical locations, educations, “they are so much better than Tech”, ect…. Childish for someone that claims to be SO superior of a University. It’s a double standard. A&M has proved year after year that they STILL can’t beat Texas Tech in football which is the main topic of this conversation, remember? Just shut up and play football. Because so far that is the only argument that you can’t win, much like your once-proud football program.
As far as Stephen McGee goes, I WILL be rooting for him. Why? Because he is now playing for the Cowboys which is the only thing we can agree on. Best of luck to him, even though he may not get any playing time backing up Romo and Kitna.
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The only thing that would improve Lubbuttocks is a giant mushroom cloud over it. 200.000 dead right wing repugnicons would be a good start to improving Texas.
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I think it is obvious Leach smoked too many left handed cigs as a teenager and college student.
I like Pirates too, especially the ones taken down by US Navy Seals !!
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What’s next divine? You wish the Swine Flu on Lubbock too? And you call us “classless”…..
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Wow, really? You hate the 200k + people in Lubbock, so much that you would suggest mass murder?
Wow… No seriously…
I didn’t know the Taliban had such good internet.
Tech is the best team in the big 12…. they play the best football. Texas, OU, and A&M cheat, or bribe the refs… they do something after every game where the ref committee watches the game and points out bad calls. The average is 5 bad calls each game… and ussually it balances out with some being called on each team. In the last 5 years, UT vs Tech has had 10+ and almost ALL of them have been calls that helped UT.
Wouldn’t it be nice if we had a fair system? The fact that we beat you despite all this…. shows who is really the best team.
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IHIOGA that RaiderRash has made it all the way into Leach’s brain and is slowly eating away at what was left of your drunk, loser moran coach’s sanity.
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The fact that you guys are getting so sore about this (and I mean everyone here – the Raiders, Aggies, Longhorns and any Bears that might have stumbled upon this) shows that this is a rivalry. There will never be a better rivalry in the Big 12 than the Red River Shootout, followed in close second by the UT vs. A&M game. That said, the Big 12 is getting to be so tough that every game is important. It’s a shame that our coach can cause so much controversy with his off-the-cuff statements, but you guys need to settle down. I know everyone is going through football withdrawals, but this is getting out of hand. Everyone just admit that you want to beat us and let’s move on. You don’t even have to call it a rivalry, but if you imply that you don’t care what we do, you’re only lying to yourselves.
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Wow… for a Tech team who A&M doesn’t care about, and which isn’t a rival of A&M, there sure are a lot of posts from Aggies stating strong opinions.
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Leach figured out(or maybe he was told) he should try to show some class and respect for decorum. This is the best he could do. Close enough. He has had his moment in the limelight.
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Another “system” quarterback that will be selling insurance within 2 years of graduation….
How many more recruits will be willing to come to Lubbock and play for 4 years and get a subpar education?
The studs will continue to go to Texas, the ones Texas passes up will settle for A&M, and the ones that get passed up by both will go to itt.
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Check the 2009 schedule Ags. Looks like you’re headed to Lubbock. To quote Chuck Heston’s “Taylor” in Planet of the Apes: “It’s a mad house.”
With one freakin’ quote Leach just guaranteed the kind of crazy crowd that Bob Stoops finally got in Norman after a week of chiding and begging the Sooner nation to show up and be heard.
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i love it! “There is nothing Mike Leach could ever say that would offend me.” is sherman REALLY throwing out the “i’m rubber & you’re glue defense”? awesome! lil shermie may wanna think twice before getting into a debate with a guy who earned a law degree from pepperdine!
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Mike Leach is a coach. A “role model” for his recruits. An ambassador for the University why don’t you act like it ? Leach is the “diva” a wannabe at that. Keep opening your mouth Leach; it will only prove what a classless clown you truly are.
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oh, and WatchOle, before you start calling people MORONS, perhaps you should learn to spell MORON…..MORON!!!
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I just think that idoit Leech needs to understand how many Cadets join our armed forces and defend our freedom before he takes any more jabs at the Aggies. I know it is difficult for a person that thinks pirates are cool to understand, but A&M is a place that should be respected, given our traditions and our blue collar ethics.
Leech has never played a down of football or even thought about serving our country… he should focus on not being drunk all the time instead of trying to belittle a tradition rich university or a coach that knows how to put his athletes in the NFL. Meanwhile his own “University” is having trouble even staying accredited or free of STD’s.
Get a life Leech. Farmers Fight!
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I personally think Leach is funny as hell, is a good coach of his system, and yes… he has something on the Ags over the past many years on the football field.
For all you tech fans, graduates etc… The part that I feel bad about is that the services industry is taking a real hit right now all over the country. I feel bad for all of those graduates of your prestigious university who are out looking for those delivery jobs right now. Must be tough sledding.
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Look, A&M has been down and Tech has been up. Even though Tech owns them right now, it is still a rivalry. We need to win a Big 12 Championship (not a division, and outright). Tech is so bent on making sure A&M knows that Tech is their rival. Who cares right now? A&M has been down for 10 years and has won as many Big 12 Championships as Tech during that time. Leach is quite the comedian, but I will soon not forget what he did and will do. He is always looking to leave lubbock, and thankfully he does things like this, that other programs will stay away. The matter of the fact is Football is king in Texas, but don’t act like we compete with A&M in athletics. Sure will pull the upset in baseball, or basketball (not this year), but they are constantly going to the NCAA tourney and super regionals. And every other sport they kill us. We need to focus on becomming a better athletic program, and stop worrying about what A&M is doing.
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This is crazy to see how this has escalated into record comparisons. Leach’s comments were out of line and should have just apologized. It sounds like sour grapes about his QB. The NFL made that decision not TAMU. Leach’s own mouth has him in trouble. He wants respect and he is not going to get it that way. He is a perfect coach for TT because he mimics their no class culture.
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Africa by Toto is probably the greatest song ever.
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WE’RE GONNA TOTALLY DOMINATE YOU SAND MONKEYS LIKE A SIXER OF MILLER CHILL THIS YEAR! HELL, WE MIGHT EVEN DO IT IN GOLF ATTIRE JUST SO WE CAN DESPERATELY DRAW MORE ATTENTION TO OURSELVES!!!!
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Hey aggiebybirth, learn how the speeel (Leach)
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We defend our country, and you dare give me spelling smack… what a tard.
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You know the last time I was in College Station for a football game, it was 95 degrees, 120% humid and no wind. That game sucked to sit and watch. Explain to me how your weather is so much better than everywhere else in Texas.
As for “GoodAg”, nobody is saying that we don’t respect our armed forces, but you guys take it to an extreme. Like your the only school that produces the only cadets out there. It’s bad enough that you have to flaunt it to everybody outside of College Station but feel the need to take offense to it. I have plenty of friends that served, even ags. Step off the soup box dude.
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“we”? Did you serve are you speaking for the ENTIRE country?
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A little old, but still meaningful, advice for Leach! “Load your brain before shooting off your mouth”!
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Reality check for all of you TTU fans who obviously cannot see the forest for the trees: This story has absolutely nothing to do with the score of any game last season or what level you may perceive games between Ags and Raiders. It’s not so much a rivalry; just that some Tech fans imagine it to be at that level. But, you need to read this story. Mike Leach is accusing Coach Sherman of benching Stephen McGee; who would’ve been a 1st round NFL pick if he had not been injured. Yeah..did you see and read the last word in that last sentence? Stephen McGee sat out most of games #2 thru #10 because of the FACT that his shoulder was INJURED! His missing those games was not by the decision of Coach Sherman (except for the fact that he realized that McGee needed to heal). Stephen McGee was the #1 QB on the A&M team last season. Obviously, he would’ve played the other 8 or 9 games had he been physically able! HE WAS NOT BENCHED BY ANYONE ON THE A&M COACHING STAFF. The moral of this story is that Leach is not very bright; any Tech fan that cannot understand that and the simple fact of this story is not being too intelligent for believing whatever comes out of his mouth!!!
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I’m sure Harrell is going to do some awesome things in the Arena Football League – good luck to him!!
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The record between teams is not a reflection of a rivalry. Yes, aTm always wants to beat Tech as they always want to beat OU, OSU, Baylor and any team they play. Texas remains their rival because of the history dating back to the attempt to shut down the first state college in Texas (Texas A&M) in order to establish a state college in the capital city (UT). Taking 15 years of a football schedule hardly matters. As an Aggie with several on the Tech side in the family, losing to Tech hasn’t been fun but I expect things will change over time. I expect A&M will show some improvement with a 2nd year of Sherman’s coaching and his recruits and I have a tough time expecting Leach to be able to maintain last year’s level of play minus Crabtree and much of his lines. Potts will step in where the guy before him was at QB. It would be fun to see A&M with the lead with only a few seconds left to go in the game and with possession of the ball. Maybe then the idea of lining up to score another 7 would be recognized by Tech fans as the classless act it was. By the way, as an Aggie that stands by the rivalry with Texas, it was a ton of fun to be in the stands at Jones Field when Tech beat Texas. It’s all talk now. It should be an interesting season.
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Leach is hilarious. I love his humor and the way he pokes fun at the A&M coaching staff and the quality of their players.
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Rock,
Nobody is saying that he is not a good QB. But what about the 2 or 3 years before his sr. year? He didn’t do anything then either. And are you really trying to put him against Sanchez or Stadford? He’s not that good. BUT, in his defense I think coach Fran ruined him. he could have been much better of a QB if he didn’t have to run the option all the time.
Should Leach have said what he said? Maybe not. But it’s so funny how mad everybody is getting over this.
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Who cares about McGee or Harrell anyways? No Leach QB has ever done well in the NFL, they know that coming here. If Harrell can break the stereotype of system QBs then good for him. He was a good QB, but you know that he could have done better the last half of his senior year, that really hurt his chances. McGee used to start, yea, but what really helped him was that A&M now runs a pro-style offense, plus McGee will probably just be a backup at Dallas.
A&M only had 2 drafted anyways, while tech had 4, all in the top 4 rounds, thats the same as texas. Heck, TCU had 5 drafted. A&M just needs to focus on using their talent to win. A&M and UT always get the first pick of football players in texas, and UT is the only one of the 2 that can actually do anything with them. You have to admit, tech can stand with the traditional football powerhouses considering what we get.
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“After a mediocre career at Texas A&M, McGee has been the Cowboys’ hot-button selection. He started only three games his senior year, but the Cowboys contend McGee was miscast with the Aggies and that he’s a strong-armed, mobile, pro-style quarterback with potential.”
I think this is what the Coach was commenting on. For McGee first four years at A&M he was in the wrong system. Also I think McGee himself made some comments that if he had run a pro style offense during his college career he would have been drafted higher.
I guess that what happens when your just a product of the system.
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OFF TOPIC FOR A MINUTE: CAN SOMEONE PLEASE LAY OFF BRITTON #27ON THE rr site: AND HIS DROPPED BALLS OR OTHER COUCH POTATO CHIPS PUNDITRY. AS A MATTER OF FACT PER CATCH BRITTON IS LEADER OR SECOND IN YDS/TDS/ YAC. AND FEWER DROPPED BALLS. J.YEAGER AND C. LEVEL SHOULD LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND STOP THE SMEAR CAMPAIGN AND LABELS OF COCKIE, UNSOCIABLE ETC. I STOPPED READING THE SITE FOR THOSE REASONS, AND HAD HOPED THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS WOULD STOP, UP UNTIL MID WAY THROUGH SPRING PRACTISE BUT IT CONTINUES. I READ VERY FEW POSITIVE REPORTS ON HIS GAME AND DOWN PLAYING OF THE ONLY RECIEVER WHO IF THE GAMES WERE THIS WEEKEND WOULD GET MOST OF THE TOUCHES. “LEACH” BRITTON’s OVERALL CONTRIBUTION TO THIS TEAM IS UNDERVALUED, HE LEAD THE TEAM IN K.O.R. YDS. 2 YEARS AGO AND WAS REMOVED FROM THE DUTIES LAST YEAR, AND NO ONE DOCUMENTED THE EFFECTS IT HAD ON THE TEAM. THIS YEAR BARRING ANYCHANGES IT APPEARS THE COACH PUTS HIM ON k.o. TEAM ? ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS OUR REVERSE RUNNING PLAY, BRITTON AVERAGED 9PLUS YDS. PER CARRY, AND INSTEAD EVERONE GETS THE BALL ON THE REVERSE BUT HIM. HIS BLOCKING IS SECOND TO NON, AND ALL WE HEAR IS HOW WELL THE OTHER RECIEVERS BLOCK. MY POINT IS THAT CL AND JY NEED TO KEEP THIER PERSONAL FEELING OUT AND JUST REPORT THE FACTS. JUST THE FACTS MAN!!!I IN SHORT BRITTON HAS NOT MISSED ANY PRACTICE OR GAME TIME DUE TO INJURY MAINLY DO TO HIS CONDITIONING AND MENTAL TOUGHNESS. THE SAD THING IS I HAVE TO WRITE THIS REPORT AND I HAVE NOT BEEN AT ONE PRACTICE, GO FIGURE. LOVE DAD. GUNS UP #27
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I understand why Leach feels the need to make these kinds of statements. I mean it has to kill him that he couldn’t take the highest QB recruit in his history at Tech and turn him into an NFL draftee, while Sherman took a guy who didn’t even see the field for most of his senior year and turned him into the first pick of the 4th round with the Cowboys…
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I like pizza
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The thing that drives me insane is the level of arrogance of the a&m fans. What Leach said was true. McGee came out of highs school as a great throwing QB and was then put in a system where he ran the option. He was beat up. This contributed to his being hurt his senior year. I think McGee is a great kid and I hope he does well for the Cowboys. I graduated from Tech in 1980. I am a medical doctor and I have not been unemployed. Tech is a great university. What a&m fans cannot understand is that we love our university, too. Not all soldiers went to a&m. Not all a&m students were in the military. Tech has had many graduates in the armed forces. a&m has the advantage of having the PUF fund. Tech has done more with less resources than any other university in Texas. This includes both athletics and academically. Tech will keep improving and if the day comes when we have close to the same financial resources as a&m they better watch out.
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Leach needs to make comments about his own players at little ol Texas Tech and not of a Flagship school like Texas A&M University.
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Don’t ever question my thinking dude…I am a lawyer and I am a quick thinker.
Maybe the fact I only have 4 plays hurt my qb’s development, but still don’t EVER question my quotes dudes…
Or maybe the fact I was interviewing for other Division I-A jobs and never returned calls from the NFL hurt my qb in the draft, again don’t ever question my quotes dude….
I am Leach and luckily Donald Trump went live on TV and said “Tech will beat OU” and dude that is how I roll..I am so different dude..
Have you seen our Tech trophy case ? Go take a look at it because you will see the Big 12 South Title Trophy which we tied for with two other teams……we are building something that you other richer and bigger schools can not understand.
It is obvious Coach Sherman predicted his QB would go in the 3rd or 4th round and it is true his QB was hurt and could not play but dude what I say I say and NO ONE can question me because I won the Big 12 South man ………take that Bobby Knight and take that Tech AD……..I am Leach…….that is me
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I understand why Aggy wants to be Texas’ rival, but come on, Sand Aggy dominates you!
Here are the legit rivals:
Texas vs Ou
Aggy vs Sand Aggy
Aggy vs Baylor
Second tier rivals:
Texas vs Sand Aggy
Texas vs Aggy
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Well said Mike Smith. Most of the complaining is just jealosy.
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It’s just direspectful. Leech should not be this way to a upstanding coach like the Sherminator. He has NFL experience and coached a legend… What can Leech say he has done? Won a Big 12 Championship *. LOL.
A&M is a proud, tradition rich university that does not need anyone’s approval. We are continuing to build champions (just look at the State Farm Lonestar Showdown) and we serve our country more than any other university. We Ags are not going to get offended by what some drunk pirate says.
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Only 440 freshman who graduated in the top 10 % of their class attended Tech this past fall.
Good luck catching A&M and tu with those type of #’s Mike Smith.
TTU competes with Texas State for funding not A&M or tu.
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Leach: Open mouth, insert CASH!!!!!
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Rivalry? Tech may be A&M’s rival but I seriously doubt Tech worries too much about these guys. Tech focuses more on UT and OU. A&M is like playing Baylor now. A&M is just an old SWC team that didn’t make any impact in the Big 12 with football. Aggies need to be more concerned with their true rivalry with Baylor. Big 12 ruined the aggies and elevated the red raiders.
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OMG, you did not just say the Sherminator. You are such a looser Aggiebybirth. Do you serve more than West Point? And again who is “WE”. Do you serve are you just on the soap box? I just don’t understand the “our cadets are better than your cadets” theory. It’s all for the same country. Doesn’t matter where they come from. I suppose you are going to tell me that the Army is better than the Navy, or Marines are better than the Army next. Congrats on producing fine men and women to serve our country… BUT YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY UNIVERSITY TO DO IT !!!!! Just how far is the argument going to go with you? The cadet out A&M is no different than the cadet out of Tech. They both fight for our country and we can all respect that. Just because everybody pokes a joke at you doesn’t mean that every is disrespecting you. They aren’t playing football which is what the article is about. So you obviously have some other issue beyond football …. and that is your problem.
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I think everyone here needs to read Mike Smith’s comment on here. Right on man. I know several Tech kids that are in the military and several aggies that are not. It goes both ways.
And if you seriously don’t want to admit that Tech and A&m are not rivals then keep your aggie comments off our or website!
And if McGee was “hurt,” why did he come in and PLAY at the end of the A&M/Tech game last year when Johnson couldn’t produce? Then the very next week it was Johnson again and McGee on the bench. McGee isn’t the only talented player A&M has let rot i.e. jovorski lane.
And if you honestly think Leach made that comment with any malice you are insane. That is just his sense of humor. And he did not search out the media to make any comment. He was asked a question…and he answered.
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Hey Kyle, I think you need to check out the Patton quote and then stfu. Gig Em!
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Coming from a horn, you cant really say A&M is like playing Baylor now, becuase Briles is actually putting together a team in Waco. Baylor will be a tough win from here on out and A&M is staying in the cellar of Big 12 south.
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Leach is such a tool. It’s painfully obvious (unless you have a Tech education) that the big chip on his shoulder just got a little bigger when the under-performing Aggie quarterback was taken before his “star” quarterback. He’s trying to mitigate recruiting damage from any blue-chippers that might question their NFL prospects if they go to Lubbock.
Tech’s high-flying offense is a result of a tricked-up system from a tricked-up dude. But at least he wins.
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aggybreath says “We Ags are not going to get offended by what some drunk pirate says”. Hmmmm. Just you voicing your opinions negates that statement. And Leach (not Leech) is not a drunk. The unfortunate bonfire incident you had happen was a direct result of stupidity by drunkards. No one else to blame but you school’s own DRUNKS> So don’t speak badly about others until your own backyard is cleaned up. As for the aggie faithful cutting down Tech football player scholastics, check out who is graduating the most players in the Big-12. It sure isn’t A&M. It is funny, though. Leach makes one tongue-in-cheek statement and Aggie Nation gets in an uproar. Get a life, Aggie. Please. And stay off the Lubbock sites. You dirty them up something fearce.
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Nice spelling Silverpilk. It’s “fierce”, not fearce. Ask for a refund on that Tech education.
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I can’t believe some of the things that you guys are saying. Leach is a great coach, but he makes all of us look like fools with his idiotic comments. Why can’t he just keep his mouth shut and just let the on-field results speak for themselves? He better keep up his winning ways. If under him we ever have a season as bad as A&M endured this season, he will be gone in a heartbeat. We won’t put up with this embarrassment if he’s not winning.
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I think that its funny that your coach calls himself a pirate,
WE ALL KNOW that a NINJA, like most of the people I have had the pleasure of knowing, would wup a Pirates ARSE anyday, should the shyte hit the fan.
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I think the comment about the mushroom cloud is pretty good. Of course, Bonghorn fans ought to know a good mushroom when they see one; they’ve smoked enough of them. aTm guys, you really are a great bunch of soldiers. Guard any pumpkins last Halloween? Uh, Rendon aTm person, what’s ninjas got to do with football? Oh, you’re probably still watching the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. Hate to break it to you, but they don’t really exist.
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Poor “taylor” who responded to this early on. He must be a grad of A&M as he never learned what capital letteres are for.
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Ok, ok, letters.
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Well said Mike Smith.
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AggyAfterBirth,
Why don’t you take your proud tradition rich a$$ and that giant patriotic chip on your shoulder and get tfoff this site. Are you so stupid that you just don’t know where to log onto the Aggy sites?
Try to understand that nobody from Tech gives a crap about your opinion. So beat it pest.
Wreck’Em Tech !!!
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Everyone needs to chill out for a second. Both sides (coaches and fans) have overstepped their boundaries. Pick your battles wisely. This is a battle that no one is going to win.
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Whats all this A&M rich tradition speak? Everything in aggieland is a RITUAL, the only tradition A&M has is losing to Tech.
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Aggie by Birth.
Everyone respects the Aggies and your proud traditions.
But where do you suppose all those jokes came from.
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You call those cadets soldiers? Nice boots queer! The only war you idiot ags have ever fought is for a spot in line to have your way with some poor pig, goat or sheep. Leave the farm animals alone! And stop breeding with members of your own family!! There are enough ugly people in the world already (mostly in the REAL armpit of college station).
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“This is a battle that no one is going to win.”
I think Mike’s comment was good enough for me.
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A&M should just buy Tech and change the name.
They have the money and Tech is broke.
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All qb’s in high school take note, if you want to get to the NFL DO NOT GO TO TEXAS TECH.
All qb’s in high school if you want to go to a Tier I school do not go to Texas Tech.
All qb’s in high school if you want to win the Big 12 do not go to Texas Tech.
Tech is a joke of school with a poor reputation for both education and athletics.
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Anyone can get into to Texas Tech.
It is an easy school that allows students to take classes over and over and replace the lower grade.
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My policy is simple: As long as the Tech football team beats A&M and beats a #1 ranked team every other century I will not fire the coach.
Let me repeat “winning first place is not important.”
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WOW! There’s enough material on this site alone for a book. Now, I just have to figure out what it will be about.
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Shut up Tech fans, you did not support me or my son.
You only like female basketball.
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A new oracle from the Football Prophet
Oh sons of the northern plain, thy colors(red and black) are signs of the what is to come. In the season when the leaves fall, thou will battle and bleed with honor and valor, but will nonetheless fall to greater warriors(indicative of the color red). Your offense will no longer be the aerial attack it once was. It will rely mostly on the one called, “Baron Batch”. He will be your greatest weapon. And though sometimes he will lead the raiders to victory, even he will not prevail against those greater foes, who shall conquer you. The color black represents lack- lack of talent…lack of confidence…lack of fan support. For you see, little by little, the roars of the crowds shall diminish with each time you lose a battle. Many will smote their chest and say, “Surely, this is not the team from yesteryear”.
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What a crock!
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Purely classless. This is why no other major will touch leech. He is only at TT because no other stepping stone program will have him. He will continue to take his chump change at TT where only Aggie’s give him any airtime. Have fun coach. I am ok where I am at are you?
leeches should not be green with envy…it is unbecoming a professional.
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Leach is a brilliant offensive mind. But that does not excuse his lack of class. He clearly is the one with a chip on his shoulder.
And as for Aggies winning any battles, know this: A&M sent more officers into World War II than all the military academies combined. 55 trees at the drill field represent those who died in World War I. The entire Class of 17 graduated early to fight the first world war.
If you want to crap all over those who serve this country, that is your right. But it makes you as classless as a certain coach on the high plains.
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Leach is just toying w/ the Aggies…and the Tech fans & media eat it up. However, know this for a fact:
Proven National Champs Stoops & Brown are in a different class than Leach – in more ways than one.
I feel the need to spell it out for the high plains drifters…Stoops/Brown would never make that comment because they have too much class. Leach is brilliant but, lacks class. Sadly, that’s a formula for success in 2009 Lubbock.
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How many Big 12 championships has Tech won in football? SWC? 1? I would say winning is not important.
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Don’t understand why we are talking about who has more soldiers or what Patton said. We’ve all seen the T-shirt…neat.
I can guarantee you that comments about players or the draft have nothing to do with this topic.
Tech wasn’t around when WWI was fought Eric in Austin. You think that Aggies were the only ones to graduate early and fight in that war?
The truth is that the vast majority of the military is made up of people who didn’t attend college…they joined the military instead. To argue about who did this or that is insane.
My two friends who died in Iraq did not go to college…does that make them less important? Their wives don’t think so.
Don’t come on our site picking a fight and then describe us as classless.
The thing that you can’t seem to understand is that everyone who has ever played aTm can’t stand you guys….not because of the games either. The lame ass “traditions” and chants and yells and kisses defy everyone else’s logic. You are a mindless cult. You are the ones who say, “You have to be an Aggie to understand.”
Tech doesn’t need your approval for anything so stop commenting about how we should act or what we should do or not do.
As for the jabs at Lubbock…have you ever objectively looked around College Station? Really? Do you have ANY room to speak about college another town?
The friends I have who went to aTm don’t act like the fools being represented on this site. Perhaps that’s because they actually earned their degree and realized that they are no better than anyone else.
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tuco, yes a different class. the class that goes and buys the players they want and graduate very damned few of them as well. talk about class all you want. it’s the graduation numbers, the winning %, and the ability to win w/out resorting to doing what the ou’s and tx’s of the world do by pretending to be nfl farm clubs as they buy there way to a national/big 12 title. class my a$$!
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Go Mike!!!! Its great to have you as our coach!!!
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Stoops and Brown do less with more almost on a yearly basis. How in hell has Tech split the past four with OU when it did not have two players OU or Texas would even consider offering a scholarship to? Leach + OU talent = national title. Oh, that’s right, the last time OU won a national title no-class Leach was the O-coordinator. Without Vince Young, Mac Brown’s mowing the 40 acres right now.
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Next season Tech will beat the dog crap out of A&M in Lubbock. The A&M defense can’t guard Tech’s skill players. Leach will score, score, score (TDs) in next year’s game. Love it – Love Leach.
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I said SHUT UP Tech Fans.
I ask myself everyday “why did I take the Tech job ?”
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Tech wins the national title next year…no doubt. We not only own aggsy but also Texas and OU.
Yes, we’ve never won the B12 but that falls next year as well. No more 7-5 or 6-6 seasons like we had for the past 30 years. All future years will be like last year. It wasn’t a fluke it signaled a CHANGE.
Just look at Leach’s grand tour at numerours schools during the offseason. All these schools kept calling coach (Auburn, Washington, etc) yet he turned themall down because of what he has built in Lubbock. He loves Lubbock just like we West Texans do. There is no finer patch of dirt in the world.
This team is loaded with talent even if the NFL denies it. Just wait! I’ll bet Tech puts multiple undrafted free agents in the league this year. Leach coached them up and it will show.
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“Eric in Austin,”
I know A&M HAD the most officers in the World Wars, but what about now? Every university in Texas has plenty of kids in the military. Times have changed. Typical Aggie…living in the past.
And I love how much influence Leach has in the league if he can make so many people angry with an innocent one-liner.
There are too many tight-a$$es on here.
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sherrill….now there was a class coach.
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So let me get this straight, 1) someone in the military who went to A&M is superior to all other military personnel who came from elsewhere? 2) If someone makes a comment about A&M or its athletics it is disrespecting all military personnel?
(How did this association come from Leach saying the Cowboys liked McGee?)
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I am going to throw a chair at you punks.
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If Leach does not shut up I will “reprimand” him in public.
You hear me Leach ? You smart mouth ?
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sorry Ekim but everybody knows we are not going to win the big 12, and especially not the natl. championship next year, I can’t fathom that your being serious
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various pre-season polls are predicting this:
http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=898567
http://www.lsufootball.net/articles/2009-preseason-polls.htm
http://www.nationalchamps.net/2009/earlybird/average_rankings.htm
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This video says it all about Tech
http://www.aggiereport.com/?p=6
Leach should go sail the seas around Somalia and lets let the Seals waste the dude.
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UT GRAD “PATHEDIC” WOW!
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I graduated from TTU Law School 20 years ago. Just want all visiting Ags to know that I take special pleasure in pursuing any lawsuit which involves an Aggie as the opposing party. I guess Ags cannot relate, inasmuch as their “Flagship” university does not have a law school. Oh yeah, I forgot about A&M’s affiliation with South Texas College of Law. I look forward to this year’s edition of TTU’s stomping of A&M.
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JY and CL I may have over stepped with the acusation of smear campaign, please accept my deepest and sincerest apology. As far as the posters, I never let that get to me. I can say that it does spill over into the under-reporting. I am the first to chestize my son and the first to give him his props. So there is nothing anyone can say to cahnge that. For those who took it as intended, I used the word UNDER- VALUED. and the quote leach made ” if it were Saturday Britton would get most of the touches” … as my underlying bases. Edward has played for 3 years now. and other than his RS freshman year I have always thought he was undervalued. The year we lost to MO. and OSU. is a case in point. The RRS site plays a very powerful role in these kids life, and this site is fun, I got hooked on it during my sons recruiting period, and left because of some crude remarks, and undertones that were not healthy for my freedom so I chose to not visit the site for a while now being my sons final year I chose to come back, overall it is good, and the staff for the site provide a very rich content and I only wish the writers and everyone the best. A real dad. Guns Up#27 any misspelled word’s “get a life”
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Noel:
Again, Brown/Stoops wouldn’t have made that wise-crack. If they did say something out of line, they certainly wouldn’t try to deflect responsibility by saying they were “shocked”. Please don’t tell me that you really believe Leach was shocked. He’s simply tossing raw meat to wind-burned masses.
Chris: Leach has always done more w/ less in Lubbock. He’s a brilliant offensive mind (no pun intended). Heck, he’s a great coach! I like Tech. I pull for Tech in bowl games. I love the underdog status. I just don’t care for cheap shots followed by law-school-taught, I’m-the-cleverist-guy-in-the-room, deflect-all-responsibility tactics.
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I also am very proud that TTU is such an attraction for high school kids who finish in the top 10 % of their class. This past fall TTU added 440 freshman who finished in the top 10 % while A&M had only 3,000.
You see the fact we have a Law School is obviously very attractive to those intelligent students.
Also, we cherish the fact we here at TTU can take courses over and over until we finally get the grade we want or need.
UT, and A&M only wish they could be like TTU.
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Britton SR no need to apologize. Red Raider parents get an
automatic exemption. Make Ed Jr. study harder. He will be needed next year
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name speaks for itself, stop getting butthurt cause we smack you around every year like its a game
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Name speaks for itself.
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System QB’s at Tech. Okay, I’ll buy that. But what “system” do the Bonghorns and aTm’s use that keeps them from producing starting QB’s in the NFL. 0-32 again this year, while VY is trying out for NASCAR.
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To all you ags, you are complete idiots. Who cares if leach talks about McGee? Look at what he said, its the TRUTH. And all you genius AGS breaking out the SAT’s of incoming freshman, weather comparisons, right wing vs left wing, etc., you are all compensating for your insecurities or small penises. All that really matters is the SCOREBOARD.
TECH 43
AGS 25
Now go tell that slovenly fat pig Sherman to tuck in his shirt.
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I am ashamed of all of you as human beings. Leach is an american citizen and under the 1st amendment he, and you, have the right to express your OPINION. Do you realize that you are arguing, bickering, moaning and groaning over someone’s OPINION. It is his interpretation of the NFL draft. I am sick and tired of people taking such offense for someone’s OPINION. I graduated from Tech, I was groomed to go to A&M from birth, but decided to follow my girlfriend, now wife, to Tech. My family supported me in my decision, oh and I have a sister who’s a senior at A&M.
The point I am making is that there is more to life than getting so offended at someone else’s OPINION. It is what they think, just like it is what you think. In the end, and I mean on your deathbed or anytime after this year’s game, is it really going to matter, NO! Take advantage of spending time with the people that you love and stop, that is to all, being offended by someone else’s OPINION. Critisize me if you want, but this is my OPINION.
Wreak’em Tech, oh and for my sister (whoop)
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Gotta love Coach Leach. He keeps it real!
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Name speaks for itself !
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Name speaks for itself …………again !
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Raiders = No Big 12 Titles, your obviously an aggie t-shirt fan, go away.
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How many Big 12 titles do the Aggies have anyway? It has been so long I don’t remember.
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Harrell Will Make a Team, Colts, Titans or a team that runs the spread/base 40/60. Guns UP #27
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The Aggies have more than zero Big 12 Titles.
The Raiders have zero.
Keep talking small school in west texas. The name of the conference may change but your history does not.
There is no trophy for beating the Aggies.
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Raiders = No Big 12 Titles
Are you smoking something? That’s a real question. What are you doing on a pro Texas Tech website? Do you not have a Texas A&M website on which you could post? Please for the sake of all, stay off of our website. I can not guarantee that we won’t have people on yours, but if you want to display the class that you claim, then please stay off our site.
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Texas Tech Dead Raiders or Texas A & M Faggies, it doesn’t really matter. The Texas Longhorns is the team that will win the Big 12 and the National Championship. Colt McCoy will win the Heisman and Mack Brown will be coach of the year. Hook-em Horns!!!!!!!!
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Mike Leach is one hilarious individual. Quit taking things so seriously Aggies, it’s embarrassing.
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I agree Dude, Mike Leach isn’t a serious coach. That is why he will never be on a par with Mack Brown. Hook’em Horns!
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You’re right Burnt Orange. If he had the UT system, money, recruits, etc, he’d have a National Championship every year.
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Dude, the operative word is “IF”. Dude, he doesn’t have the UT System, money, recruits, etc because he hasn’t proven himself worthy dumb-ass. Dude, at the rate he is going, he will in the words of WWE’s Chris Jericho “NEVER, EEEEVER…” coach at a top notch school like UT. Dude, he will have to settle for second rate schools like TT. Oooooh….Dude, you’ve been served.
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That was funny.
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Dude, the operative word is “IF”. Dude, he doesn’t have the UT System, money, recruits, etc because he hasn’t proven himself worthy dumb-a**. Dude, at the rate he is going, he will in the words of WWE’s Chris Jericho “NEVER, EEEEVER…” coach at a top notch school like UT. Dude, he will have to settle for second rate schools like TT. Oooooh….Dude, you’ve been served.
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Ahhh…Good one.
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So you watch/quote pro wrestling? Cool guy I’m sure. So we are in agreeance “IF” he was there, hed win championships. That equates to a better coach. His personality is the limiting factor. Thanks for clarifying hes the better coach!
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Dud, I mean Dude, first of all, “agreeance”, what the hell does that mean? Is that indicative of the type of education you receive at second rate TT (Trailer Trash) University? Yes, I guess as you put it, we are in “agreeance” that Mack Brown is the better coach and Leach is nothing but a big, “IF”. As in “IF YOU SMELLLLLLL, WHAT THE ROCK IS COOKIN’!!!!! I guess that answers your question about pro wrestling. One more thing, mark my words, come this fall UT will LAYETH THE SMACKETH DOWN ON ALL YOUR CANDY ASSES!!!! (Crowd cheers in the background)
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Dud, I mean Dude, first of all, “agreeance”, what the hell does that mean? Is that indicative of the type of education you receive at second rate TT (Trailer Trash) University? Yes, I guess as you put it, we are in “agreeance” that Mack Brown is the better coach and Leach is nothing but a big, “IF”. As in “IF YOU SMELLLLLLL, WHAT THE ROCK IS COOKIN’!!!!! I guess that answers your question about pro wrestling. One more thing, mark my words, come this fall UT will LAYETH THE SMACKETH DOWN ON ALL YOUR CANDY A**ES!!!! (Crowd cheers in the background)
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PREACH IT, BROTHER!!!!!
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Hey Burnt Orange and Long Horn, you don’t get it. TTU’s 39-33 victory over UT cost UT a shot at the national championship. Beating TTU 20 straight years by double digit scores will never erase that loss in the mind of UT fans. That’s why, 39-33 will stir the ire of UT fans 25 years from now. On another matter, no one outside of the UT community thinks much of Mack Brown’s coaching abilities. Wonderful recruiter though. Question, UT is so rich, why doesn’t it hire someone to wipe the sweat from Brown’s upper lip during close games?
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Main Entry: agreeance
Part of Speech: n
Definition: the act of agreeing
….. see the dictionary…..
Guess that just shows who the WWF watching, white trash is here. Another UT t-shirt fan without a college degree. Have fun in the trailer, and watch out for tornadoes.
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…Ender…that reminded me of Harrell to Crabtree
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FB West TExas
“no one outside of the UT community thinks much of Mack Brown’s coaching abilities”.
Sorry FB West TExas, I do and I’m pretty sure a lot of college football fans across the U.S. will agree with me…
His record is a doozy!!!!
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I know quite a few who dont, UT grads included. But that can be said about any coach. I think Mack is more suited for the AD position, but thats just me.
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I like what Hook ‘Em said way up there :
“How many more recruits will be willing to come to Lubbock and play for 4 years and get a subpar education?” ..because all the longhorn players are getting a far superior education..i.e. Vince Young’s wonderlic score..and Jamaal Charles, who can barley speak English – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cBEDFDhoq8
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SHUT UP! BOBBY KNIGHT… YOU ARE THE ONE WHO WRECKED TTU ATHLETICS!!!!!!!
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Hmmm…Let’s take a trip down memory lane:
UT Longhorns under Mack Brown 115 wins 26 losses (.816, translates to a solid 800 win average)
TT Red Raiders under Mike Leach 76 wins 39 losses (.661, translates to just under a 700 win average)
Since the year 2000, when Leach took over at Tech, the Mack Brown versus Mike Leach series is as follows: Longhorns have won 7 times, while the Red Raiders have won twice
The all-time Longhorns versus Red Raiders series stands at:
Longhorns 42 wins Red Raiders 15 wins
TEXAS HISTORY HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY FAVORITE SUBJECT!!!
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And whats the point of those numbers that EVERYONE knows?
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So that I don’t leave you “hanging”, Chad, the point of my history lesson was to show that Brown is the better coach and that the Longhorns have the better winning tradition over the Red Raiders. You see, the Raider fans are quick to point out the 2008 victory, but the problem is that many have a short memory. I just wanted to help them see the big picture as we Longhorn fans see it. Once that happens, then you are definitely HOOKed.
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See, you keep forgetting this: it doesn’t take as good of a coach at UT as it does at Tech. Flip the 2 coaches, and Brown wouldn’t have made it at Tech, whereas Leach would at UT.
Clever play on words though, I’ll give you 1 point for that. Back under the bridge now troll. Don’t forget your t-shirt Long Horn, or should I say Burnt Orange Tan?
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^ *these are my opinions
the troll part, was fact
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That is a TERRIBLE analogy (big word, go look it up). Its more of the situation here:
Leach is playing with some walmart brand clubs and missing a few; and hitting just under par. Mack is hitting a full set of Taylor Mades and as is better by 5 strokes. Switch those club sets around and we have a whole different game.
Troll: Being a prick on the internet because you can. Typically unleashing one or more cynical or sarcastic remarks. The act of purposefully antagonizing other people on the internet, generally on message boards.
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PS, deleting from my bookmarks so you can respond to deaf eyes (bet that one throws you for a loop). It’s obvious your intelligence/comprehension level is below average at best. Wouldn’t expect much less from a guy who didn’t go to college but likes to act like he did. Get another orange t-shirt.
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Chad,
Why is it whenever Texas Tech fans have heated discussions with other football schools fans they accuse the others of being T-Shirt fans?
If you only knew just how many people put their butts and hard earned cash into Jones, AT&T stadium on game day, that have never attended any college, you would be amazes.
Plainview, Levelland, Seminole, Muleshoe, Amarillo or Midland-Odessa, they come from all over to cheer-on the Red Raider’s, without ever being in a Tech classroom.
The point I’m trying to make is get a new line, that one has no meaning.
Chad, are you a Dallas Cowboy fan? (or any other pro team)
Well if you wear their colors, I’m guessing you have some affiliation to them.
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Chad,
You said, “Leach is playing with some walmart brand clubs…” That was funny. To put Leach and Walmart together in the same sentence, that was priceless. Hey, maybe Walmart could start a Leach Golf Clubs brand at Walmart? Ha-Ha-Ha…. That really painted a picture in my mind. Thanks, Chad, I needed a good laugh. One more thing, in the words of the Joker, “Why so serious?”. We’re just talking a little trash talk, no need to get so upset. Relax my fellow football compadre.
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Guns down, guns down, we will certainly lose against the Horns. Who are we kidding? They have the better team, coach, and even the better fans. The truth hurts, but we must face reality. F*ck it, I’m moving to Austin. See ya…
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Of course, come on down, but please leave your trailer home behind.
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Harrell just wasn’t NFL material. I’m sure he would be a great sales associate at Walmart’s sporting department.
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Your precious QB just wasn’t NFL material. I’m sure he would be a great sales associate at Walmart’s sporting department.
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Mike who? Oh Yeah. He used to be a coach there. ROFL
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