Agent: Leach has shown his loyalty

BY DON WILLIAMS l AVALANCHE-JOURNAL

An agent for Mike Leach said Monday the Texas Tech football coach rejected overtures from multiple schools who conducted head-coach searches over the past two seasons, suggesting that should be an indication of his loyalty.

Matt Baldwin, a Minnesota-based representative with IMG Coaches, said Leach declined interview opportunities elsewhere because he didn’t want to detract from his team’s preparation.

“UCLA asked to interview him the week of the Gator Bowl (late December 2007),’’ Baldwin said. “He refused, saying that he was focusing on the team and winning the Gator Bowl for Texas Tech.

“I can tell you that this season, he was approached during the regular season by the University of Washington and the University of Tennessee. Both wanted to meet with him during the regular season, and he refused on both counts, because he was focused on getting Texas Tech to the national championship.’’

Baldwin acknowledged Leach interviewed with Washington in early December after the regular season.

Baldwin said Tennessee representatives “were going to fly to West Texas to meet with him, and he wouldn’t do it.’’

Tennessee ultimately hired Lane Kiffin to succeed Phillip Fulmer as head coach.

Baldwin said Leach immediately declined an overture from a search firm for Mississippi State in that school’s search to replace Sylvester Croom and was never involved in Auburn’s coaching search. Baldwin said a consultant for Auburn informed him and Gary O’Hagan, another IMG representative of Leach’s, that Auburn was interested in some of their clients and not others.

”Mike was among those that they were not interested in,’’ Baldwin said.

Regarding UCLA’s search to replace Karl Dorrell after the 2007 season, the Los Angeles Daily News reported at the time that Leach was never a serious candidate for a job that ultimately went to Rick Neuheisel. As soon as three days after Dorrell’s firing, the Daily News cited unnamed sources saying Leach would not be on the short list.

Tech, Leach and Leach’s agents remain apart on negotiations for a contract extension. The two sides have agreed to terms of a five-year, $12.7-million contract, but Leach says he won’t sign it because of four clauses that were inserted in the January proposal.

Tech athletic director Gerald Myers said Monday that the four clauses remain in place, as does a Feb. 17 deadline for Leach to sign the new contract. Myers and another source said Monday there had been no changes to the four clauses, and the source said there had been no negotiations for the last several days.

One of the clauses to which Leach objects stipulates that he must get Tech’s permission to interview elsewhere. Were he to violate that clause, he would be subject to firing with cause and a penalty payment of $300,000 per year for the number of years remaining on the contract.

Myers initially declined comment on Baldwin’s accounting of the extent of Leach’s involvement in other schools’ searches.

Then Myers said, “All I can say is nobody from those schools ever contacted me about permission to talk to Mike. That’s all I know. That’s all I wanted in that clause is to be informed.’’

In a Jan. 26 letter from Myers to Baldwin, Myers said Tech wants Baldwin “to stop shopping Coach Leach everywhere and him not saying anything to deny that he’s looking for another job.”

Leach recently completed his ninth season in Lubbock. Tech fans in significant number have questioned Leach’s desire to remain at Tech with his name often linked to job openings over the last several years.

In a Jan. 13 e-mail he wrote to Scott Dueser, Leach indicated a fondness for Tech and a desire to remain for several years. Dueser’s term recently expired as chair of the Board of Regents.

Leach wrote in part, “It is a thrill for me and my family to be at Texas Tech.’’ He also wrote, “It is also my hope that I can be the Head Coach at Texas Tech for many years to come.’’

Last spring, Tech officials rejected a proposal from Leach’s agents for a five-year, $15.25 million deal for their client.

In the Jan. 26 letter to Baldwin, Myers wrote, in part, “We realize Mike Leach’s talents. He is an excellent coach. His desire to make more money is perfectly logical, but we have about reached the limits of what we can pay our coach and still maintain the rest of the department. If better opportunities occur for him somewhere else, we will fully understand.”

Baldwin said Leach’s camp took that as an invitation to interview elsewhere; hence, the reason he went to Seattle when Washington was searching for a new coach.

“We received explicit directions from Gerald Myers that if better opportunities occurred for Mike somewhere else, he would fully understand if Mike left,’’ Baldwin said. “Since Texas Tech had not offered an extension at that time, Washington certainly offered a better opportunity in terms of future security.’’

Washington ultimately hired Southern Cal offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian.

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  • redraiderfan said:

    I wish Myers would go somewhere else

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  • Barry Doss said:

    I have watching Tech football for years and have Basketball
    if Myers lets Leach leave that will be the dumbest thing and
    make Tech look real stupid . Come on Myers get it together
    or Leave Tech

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  • EPRAIDER 79/82 said:

    The posturing needs to end. The coach and his agent and the Tech administration people with the authority to negotiate need to sit down in a room together with a mediator and get this contract done.

    Everybody’s right and everybody’s wrong. Enough hurt feelings and bruised egos. This should take about two hours to hammer out with everyone in one room. Win-win now and stop the noise. Leach, Myers and Hance can and should be able to do what’s right for themselves and the University. From where they are now to a signed contract should be an easy step.

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  • Jim Zanios said:

    Who ever takes or passes the blame, letting Mike Leach go would rank as one of the worst decisions ever made at TTU. Mike wants TTU, TTU claims they want Mike, let’s get it done! I’d rather have a coach that everyone wants every year, and keep winning! GO TECH!

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  • Freddie said:

    Leach, “Lubbock in your rear view mirror”!

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  • bearman said:

    Meyers is the jerry jones of college football how in the hell do u even consider not keeping the best thing this university ever had especially when he wants to stay!!!!!!! hey meyers why dont u start doing favors for this university instead of the KNIGHT family!!!

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  • austin raider said:

    I totally agree withe EPRaider. Get a mediator, work it out, kiss and make up, and go out and win a national championship. It can happen as easy as that.

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  • Ridge said:

    What a bunch of BS from IMG. Don’t believe their propaganda.

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  • Bampa said:

    Get serious. Whether Coach Leach has “officially” interviewed or not, he does not handle any of it properly. He leaves everyone up in the air. It would be simple to handle things like this in a way that will not damage the university’s program.

    I have been a strong supporter of Coach Leach’s, and I have turned a blind eye to his many weaknesses because he was winning and the offense was so exciting. But enough is enough. It is time for him to move on. We need someone with a good personality who isn’t strange who will be excited about being the coach of the Texas Tech Red Raiders.

    I just hope Chancellor Hance and Coach Myers are prepared to “reassign” Coach Leach come February 18. Let’s get an exciting new coach in Lubbock!

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  • Robert said:

    Gary O’Hagan and Matt Baldwin are full of it. Kudos to the BOR for setting them straight. Tech should not buckle under to them nor any agent, whatsoever. Btw, if it was Leach’s call for them to contact the BOR directly, he should have been fired, if not, then he should have publicly chastised them for using such tactics without his ok.

    At this point, I just don’t see the “kiss and make up” part happening. We are well past that at this point. Too many bridges have been burned.

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  • David Davis said:

    I don’t know why Texas Tech ever offered Myers the AD job to start with because he is not qualified.How good of a basketball coach was he?

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  • dano 1998 said:

    Lie #1 : Miami interested in Leach
    Lie #2: UCLA interested in Leach
    Lie #3: Tennessee interested in Leach
    Lie #4 Washington interested in Leach

    None of these schools were EVER interested in freak-show Leach as He was the one contacting and pestering them. They were only “kind” to him – especially Washington who had USC’s off coord. in their sites from the get-go (Pete Carroll’s main recruiter on west coast) When Leach realized this he “bowed out of consideration” and came home with tail between legs. And, even tho his side-kick buddy, G Harrell , said this would be a “GREAT” fit for the pirate as if he was giving him his blessing. And, ditto the Miami fiasco couple of yrs ago. Leach found himself drooling around with their people only to find out they really wanted to give Randy Shannon a chance. Tennessee NEVER put him on a short list and Auburn would not even speak with him.

    And, what pro team has offered him a million bucks to come be their off coordinator? NONE – ZILCH – SQUATO!! That would be a mark of success, but, gee, I ain’t read anything about Mike with the pro’s except his wanna be relationship with Donald Trump.

    Get rid of this jerk face and his east coast or maybe left coast agents. Yeah, come Dec 1st of ‘09 there will be blood… Our Tech oil barons will buy out his last yrs contract to get rid of his pirating skinny behind!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Charlie said:

    The only stipulation in the contract that needs to be worked out is how much Leach should help and allow his name to be used in generating additional revenue. They could add some incentive for Leach to perform extra activities to help raise $$$ for Texas Tech. All of the other points are completely reasonable and necessary.

    People who bash Meyers are ignorant and haven’t a clue!

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  • flash lite said:

    I think that line starts in Midland and has now extended all the way south to Crane.

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  • bearman said:

    I dont blame leach or his agents, stoops, brown and urban meyers all have them. My problem with the BOR and gerald myers is that they put this off way to long. They said they would look at leach’s offer and negociate it at the end of the season and leach gives texas tech it’s best season ever!!! There is plenty of money to be made for them if leach stays and has the contract he wants. Look at the millions they are spending on the stadium upgrades because they believe it will pay for itself and mike leach if he stays will be the only reason it does!!!! Mike leach has done his job and made tech competitive on the national scene and he wants to be paid for it big deal pay the man what he has earned!!! he will still have 4 big 12 coaches that will be making more than him!!! If tech ever wants to be a athletic powerhouse like Oklahoma or UT keeping mike leach is the first step hell he has us on the verge!!!
    If he leaves get ready for another Bobby Knight freakshow that will ultimately take us nowhere brought to u by Gerald myers!!!

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  • bearman said:

    Response to DANO-
    sounds like u want to go back to the spyke dyke days again!!!
    Tech is not going to get a better coach to come to lubbock!!!
    Why???? Because all the other good coaches are at the schools that pay them what there worth!!!
    Big time coaches also dont find lubbock as glamorous as you do!!
    And also i’d like to know how you know more than espn and all the others about his offers???/

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  • redraiderfan said:

    Myers when he coached basketball would on ocassion sell out the Municipal Coliseum, On more ocassions he wouldn’t. To be quite honest, it was Bubba Jennings and Tony Benford that really drew the crowds then. Myers style of basketball was slow and methodical. Until Leach arrived at Tech, so was the football team. Leach is a proven commodity and has elevated the team to new heights. Before Leach, we couldn’t sell 45,000 tickets to see a ranked team, now with Leach, we average of 50,000 seats sold regardless of who we play. If Myers is telling our coach’s agents that he should look elsewhere, and we would understand, in the middle of the greatest season since the early 70s, then yes, i have a problem with Myers, especially since the administration is raising the price of tickets and expanding the stadium. There once was a time when Texas A&M laughed because we “thought” of them as a rival, now they wish they were our rival, Leach has owned them 9 or the last 10 years. Myers doesnt know how to handle contract negotiations because he is not a businessman, he is a good ol’ boy, kind of a bubba if you will, and Hance, to be quite honest is, too. If Montford were still here, he would never have publicly stopped negotiations with a coach that has brought so much revenue and national prominence to the school. Leach will lead this team next year, and make no mistake, he will do so without a new contract under the current conditions, and when he does, the suiters will be calling again, and this time, he will take their offer. Then we will be stuck with whoever is dumb enough to want to coach for a school that has publicly said they have no money and trust me, there is not a respectable coach on the planet that would want to work here under those conditions. Good Luck Tech, and why say Wreck ‘em, its been wrecked.

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  • steven said:

    I do not believe for one minute that the agents are telling the truth.
    My faith is behind Hance. I trust him to make the right decisions for Tech.
    And yes, I used to be a huge Leach supporter. But now I am not. I am tired of him “shopping around”. He obviously doesn’t want to be here, or he wouldn’t care about the stipulations in the contract.

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  • redraiderfan said:

    enjoy the kool-ade steven. but before you make ridiculous statements about not caring what is in the contract, do some research on what you are talking about. As stated before, Leach started shopping after Myers made a stupid statement, one of the many he has made and will continue to make, and also look up the history of records, in conference, in bowl games and overall through the History of Texas Tech. Leach has won as many bowl games in his 9 years at Tech, as all the other coaches in Tech history combined. The games are more fun, and the students are extremely involved. What else has he accomplished well lets see:

    9 consecutive winning seasons
    7 consecutive seasons 8 win seasons
    4 seasons with at least 9 wins
    1 season with 11 wins
    9 consecutive bowl appearances
    4 seasons completed with team ranked in the Top 25
    18–9 record against in-state conference rivals Baylor, Texas, and Texas A&M
    47–10 record at Jones AT&T Stadium
    2008 AP Big 12 Coach of the Year
    2008 Big 12 Coach of the Year
    Coached 1 Fred Biletnikoff Award (Best Wide Receiver) winner: Michael Crabtree (two-time winner)
    Coached 1 Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award (Best Senior Quarterback) winner: Graham Harrell
    Coached 1 Mosi Tatupu Award (Best Kick Returner) winner: Wes Welker
    Coached 3 Sammy Baugh Trophy (Outstanding Quarterback) winners: Kliff Kingsbury, B.J. Symons, and Graham Harrell
    More than 150 NCAA, Big 12 and school records broken as Texas Tech’s head coach[43]
    and what has Myers and Hance done, hmmm, never mind

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  • MIKE said:

    The fools that are lambasting Leach and praising Hance and Myers should donate their small minds to the medical school. Such stupidity should be studied to see if it is genetic.

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  • bearman said:

    It’s just funny to me that the only good decision in hiring that myers has made that hasn’t back fired in his face is coach leach and he’s willing to let him go vs. pay him wat he’s worth?????

    Go to the spirit arena or dan law field if u dont believe me and u will see gerald myers at his best!!! also u will see only a quarter of the arena full trust me i know i still go to the games regardless!!!!!

    But how about the jones on a saturday!!!! yeah nothing has to be said!!!

    I guess u dont want any sport to be nationally ranked here do ya??

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  • steven said:

    hey raiderfan…don’t get personal and accuse me of being on “kool ade”…and mike..I do not have a “small mind”. I was just expressing my opinion…I guess if I disagree with you, it means I am stupid or under the influence. I did not attack either of you personally.
    Again, I trust Hance to look out for the best interests of the university.

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  • LMII said:

    If Leach is NOT going to continue to “shop around” and is truly committed to making TTU a national powerhouse rather than an exciting side show, then he should not have any problem with buy-out provisions in his contract. Many other quality coaches around the U.S. have them. Take for instance, Rich Rodriguez, he went to Michigan but it cost the university to lure him away. These provisions are used to compensate universities for losing coaches on whom they are making long term business decisions.

    TTU administrators make these decisions for this university based on projections. If Leach leaves then those projections potentially cost the university, and ultimately our students, money! We have invested ALOT of money in Leach, and he has stayed because he has not HAD a better offer, not because he is loyal to this university. I truly believe that if he were loyal to TTU he would immediately quash rumors with a transparent NO. Instead, he hem haws around and uses wily rhetoric. Thus, he avoids having to admit he is actively looking by claiming that he is concentrating on the post-season game. Yeah, right. It really showed at the Cotton Bowl where we got our asses kicked on national television. Leach has been good for TTU, and in turn, we gave a nobody a chance–a real chance. And, he has maximized that chance and the university and Leach have benefitted. However, if he really wants to stay then take the money and accept the penalties for jumping ship early. It is as simple as that.

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  • James said:

    Response to bearman

    I’m wondering where DANO received his informaiton as well…

    Myers is under pressure, because of University budgets. Leach is under pressure, because he is not paid his worth. I’m hoping Leach with his loyalties to Texas Tech will be enough to keep him here through another contract.

    But remember Leach is no dummy. He has an extensive educational background and will not go down without a fight.

    Wait a minute… This is the exact kind of coach we need. Myers must understand: coaches who don’t give up on ‘What is right,’ are exactly the people for a Texas Tech coaching staff.

    I just think back to last years Texas game, when Leach went nuts over the officials. Leach spoke up, stating, “My willingness to look the other way for years at a time and not see what part I can do — even if it costs me, even if it hurts me or whatever — I’m not willing to take the back seat anymore,” said Leach. He ended up getting a $10,000 fine because of his bold stand-up against the replay system.

    Accountability has been lost and Leach is doing what it takes to keep people in check.

    These are the types of coaches Texas Tech needs and should continue to employ.

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  • XX said:

    SEND MYERS PACKING!

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  • Anotherraiderfan said:

    Please Send Myers Packing… Most of our sports are in the Crapper…Except forTrack… Good Job Kittley. Pay Mike what he wis worth.. We will see what happens when you can’t generate funds to maintain this stadium. This is terrible. Myers is going to have all of our sports in the crapper soon. ( Watch out coach Kittley) Seems as if when a program is doing well, you should reward those involved. Mike Leach is our best good chance to win a national championship soon… And Myers with this Good Ole Boy system would like to ruin that… This is Sick

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  • RaiderDave said:

    Did these agents learn their propaganda tactics from the Obama/Clinton camps? They need to STHU and get back to negotiating. BTW check Leachś overall conference record. Ïtś not so great.

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  • AL Campbell said:

    I would fire Meyers, who is much easier to replace than what little talent maybe left after the University decides he needs to go. If I were a coach at Tech, I wouldn’t have any loyalty to Meyers.

    An AD should be judged on his ability not only to attract talent and resources, but to manage them. Meyers did not manage Bobby Knight well. We can all see how well he is doing with Leach. Meyers can’t figure out who he wants to play in Dallas. Meyers seems like someone who has good ideas, then loses the plot, and fails to manage what he’s put together.

    Meyers image as a bad negotiator and manager appeared long before IMG started its campaign.

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  • LJE said:

    CORRECTION… anyone that has followed Gerald Meyers over the past 30 years knows that he is NOT the best person to be Athletic Director… and was NOT the best coach in the SWC when Texas Tech won their championship in the 80’s.

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  • tom said:

    Ya leach is loyal as can be……until anything remotley attractive becomes available. 2 or 3 years ago it was miami, then ucla, the udub. all leach has done (other than squeak a few bowl wins out against teams we should have dominated) is confirm the outside perception that Lubbock is a place no one wants to be. I say don’t let the door hit ya on the way out.

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  • TW said:

    It’s not that hard for Leach to call or email Meyers to let him know that he was interviewing with Washington. The new contract just says that he has to notify Tech of his intentions. It looks bad when Tech is clueless as to what its coach is doing.

    I’m fine with Leach looking elsewhere if he wants, but don’t keep Tech fans wondering and sifting through the rumor mill. He can look elsewhere, but he isn’t going to find a better place than Texas Tech!

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  • pootpie said:

    All you good true conservative republicans should understand perfectly that no matter how good a coach is, he is not above the almighty budget and conservative principles.

    He is labor – and any good conservative wants as cheap a worker as possible.

    Good old-fashioned conservative economics demands that you curb your football enthusiasm. No true republican should be yelling and screaming at a public event anyways…unless they’re castrating a liberal.

    Kent Hance knows that — he introduced McCain at the Lubbock rally this year. That’s the time to cheer.

    So sit down, take a deep breath, & realize that your beloved Mike Leach is a common laborer, working for wages, and needs to be treated accordingly.

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  • Tech71 said:

    My view is that we’ve all been largely ignorning Coach Leach’s weaknesses…just happy to be winning a lot of games and enjoying the heck out of an exciting offense. Coach Leach has made some significant accomplishments, but at what price?

    I don’t mean to be rude, but in my opinion, these are at least some of his weaknesses:

    Coach Leach has a weak personality.
    Coach Leach is strange.
    Coach Leach is not a strong recruiter because he has a weak personality and he’s strange.
    Coach Leach doesn’t even pay much attention to defense, so Tech has had poor defenses.
    Coach Leach has demonstrated no loyalty to Tech.
    Coach Leach has shown a significant lack of respect for his superiors and Tech.
    Coach Leach has an Athletic Director who apparently doesn’t like him or respect him (and Coach Myers undoubtedly knows a lot of things that none of us do).
    Coach Leach has embarrassed Tech with his annual unsuccessful new job search.
    Coach Leach is usually an embarrassment whenever he is interviewed on TV.
    Coach Leach hasn’t generated any meaningful outside income for the university.
    Coach Leach apparently doesn’t assist with fundraising.
    Coach Leach has made numerous post-game attacks on players after a loss. He doesn’t seem to understand the importance of praising in public and criticizing in private.
    Coach Leach hasn’t had any other university show any interest in him for their coaching vacancies.
    Coach Leach has made some misleading comments about the contract negotiations.
    Coach Leach has made a lame excuse for why he didn’t notify Tech that he was seeking a new position elsewhere.
    Coach Leach made a poor choice in hiring his agents and he has done a miserable job of directing them how to represent him.
    Coach Leach does not have many coaching contacts, and when he needs to fill a vacancy, he has often looked for a youngster who has never worked anywhere.
    Coach Leach has not produced many NFL players.
    Coach Leach hasn’t won any championships.
    Coach Leach affected Tech’s recruiting this year with his job search and the uncertainty that some recruits felt.
    Coach Leach is really an Offensive Coordinator. And now, many other schools have copied his innovations, and they continue to innovate while Coach Leach seems to have peaked.

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  • TECH AD said:

    LEACH HAS NEVER FINISHED FIRST IN THE BIG 12.

    WHEN HE FINISHES FIRST, HE WILL GET PAID LIKE HE FINISHED FIRST.

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  • Redraiderjohn said:

    This is gonna end bad! I don’t see how Leach will be able to stay (I really like him as our coach and just bought a damn pirate flag for for next seasons tailgates) and with the fallout (there will be fallout by the loyalists to coach) Myers is going to have to fall on the sword for the GOB’s. I just hope that whoever they have in waiting is not a big step backwards.

    Who knows, maybe they can work it out, but w/this latest bit of BS by the agents….doesn’t look good.

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  • RaiderDave said:

    Mike is 42-30 in conference in 9 seasons, that’s a
    4.66 & 3.33 record folks. 5-4 in Bowls 55%
    He has yet to win a Cotton Bowl.

    Year Team Overall Conference Standing Bowl Coaches# AP°
    Texas Tech Red Raiders (Big 12 South) (2000–present)
    2000 Texas Tech 7–6 3–5 4th L 27-40 galleryfurniture.com – –
    2001 Texas Tech 7–5 4–4 T-3rd L 13-16 Alamo – –
    2002 Texas Tech 9–5 5–3 T-2nd W 55-15 Tangerine – –
    2003 Texas Tech 8–5 4–4 4th W 38-14 Houston – –
    2004 Texas Tech 8–4 5–3 T-3rd W 45-31 Holiday 17 18
    2005 Texas Tech 9–3 6–2 T-2nd L 10-13 Cotton 19 20
    2006 Texas Tech 8–5 4–4 4th W 44-41 Insight – –
    2007 Texas Tech 9–4 4–4 T-3rd W 31-28 Gator 23 22
    2008 Texas Tech 11–2 7–1 T–1st L 34–47 Cotton 12 12
    Texas Tech: 76–39 42–30 Italics indicate current record.

    Total: 76–39
    National Championship Conference Title Conference Division

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  • the Truth said:

    Mike Leach needs to go. I knew that way before the contract dispute even came to light.

    Since 1998: I’ve seen Texas, OU, A&M, K-State, Missouri, Colorado, Nebraska, and Kansas win their division or a BCS bowl game. 8 teams in our own conference have done more than Tech!

    Mike Leach accumulates a bunch of wins on the world’s worst non-conference schedule, then goes .500 in conference and parlays wins over Rice and Eastern Washington into job interviews across the country.

    Mike Leach: zero national championships, zero BCS games, zero conference championships, zero division championships.

    I support Texas Tech University. Long live the revolution.

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  • Lynn M said:

    Hey, let’s remember who is doing the talking; Kent Hance – ex-politician, Mike Leach – ex-lawyer, Matt Baldwin – agent, and Gerald Myers – ex-coach. None of these fields really reward individuals that consistently tell the truth. As a fan, we are left trying to determine who said what and what the really meant when they said it. Has Leach helped the football program and brought Tech into the national spotlight? I don’t think anyone with a measurable pulse would answer anything other than yes. Did any of us know who Leach was before he came to Tech? Few if any can truthfully answer yes to this question. Personally, I would hate to see Leach go, but football coaches leave winning programs all the time to find greener pastures and Tech football will survive if Mike does leave. As a fan, our loyalty should be with the school and not the coach, AD, or chancellor. And I know a little something about loyalty since endured every home game in 1980 when we went 1-9-1. We would have been 8-3 if games only lasted 3 quarters. The amazing thing is that the coach, Jerry Moore, that “coached” Tech to that horrible record is the same coach that led Appalachian State to the miracle win over Michigan last year. So maybe having a successful program is having the right coach at the right time.

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  • TECH AD said:

    Shut up and just coach football Leach.

    You freak !!

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  • Old Man said:

    Lynn makes some very good points. The one thing all of the above comments fail to take into consideration is the quality of person Mike Leach is. I have no doubt that he did put his team first when other schools were asking to meet with him. His reaction to all of the rumors has been that it is better to be talked about for other openings rather than be talked about being fired.
    Myers memo gave the agents the opening to shop him around and now Meyers doesn’t like that. Leach is a good honest person and has had a great positive impact on our university. Texas, A&M, and Oklahoma copnstantly pull in the highest rated recruiting classes yet we have stayed competitive. I think this entire thing is unfortunate and typical of how some people react to other people success. If you don’t like his coaching style thats fine but do not, under any circumstances, make this a personal issue. He deserves better than that . We are starting to sound like our friends down in Austin.

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  • watchdog113 said:

    Or having one that can learn from his mistakes, like not having the QB run the ball ever or hiring agents….

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  • civitas said:

    What a load of horse pooky. The agents are the ones shopping Leach’s name around because that’s their job and how they make money. Leach can’t claim he didn’t and doesn’t know that’s what they have been doing; that’s what he pays them for. If he wants the same provisions as some of the other Big 12 coaches contracts, then he might consider winning the Big 12 or a National Championship.

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  • Dallas Techsan said:

    By the way, are we still paying Bobby Knight? If so, that is another one of Gerald Myers’ blunders. That could free up some more cash. Gerald Myers was boring all the way back to his Monterey days. They probably put the shot clock in BECAUSE of him. Also, the AGENT has always been a problem. Look at pro sports. The problem usually lies with the agent.
    Mike Leach is a great coach but sometimes lets his ego get in the way of greatness. I still support him though. I really want him to stay. He is the perfect fit for TTU. We need new and fresh ideas in the AD seat. It’s time for a change!

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  • Joyous said:

    Sounds to me like Coach Leach IS TRYING his best to win the B12 and MNC.

    It will never happen as long as his name is up for almost every new coaching job that becomes available. He could stop that if he wanted, and just agree to be Tech’s coach for the duration.

    Gerald has some valid concerns. (Leach has all the money.)

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  • Mike said:

    it shows a bunch of loyalty for him to turn down an interview with Tennessee to stay with Tech. TENNESSEE! Talk about a sacrifice to make for a school that in turn is trying to run him out. This whole thing is ridiculous. Leach leaves and you have a 7-5 record and a big empty stadium with a $25 million price tag. Good thing this didn’t happen before they milked the alumni out of all that money, but maybe that was all in the plan. The administration is ridiculous. I wouldn’t blame Leach if he did leave after all. Who would wanna work under these idiots?

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  • Nick said:

    Leach will never win the BCS or outright Big XII as long as Texas, OU, A&M, Nebraska, Missouri, or others are in the conference. Keep putting Div 1AA schools on the schedule to pad the record, throw the ball 80% of the time to put up unrealistic numbers, win enough to make the Toilet Bowl game each year, and he will be here forever. No major college team (BYU had some years ago) has ever had ongoing success throwing the ball 65 times a game. Look what Ole Miss’s defense did to Harrell, Crabtree, and the passing game! Playing in a major bowl is a lot different than playing a 6-5 team in the “not-ready for-prime-time bowl”.

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  • noel said:

    David, considering the talent level, OUTSTANDING is the answer!

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  • jake said:

    You think Tennessee wants Leach BWAHAHAHAH NOBODY WANTS LEACH. HE IS THE MOST OVERRATED COACH EVER.

    He wants to be paid like the big boys, but can’t even win his division in a decade. Tech is getting coned if they pay Leach like Mack Brown or Stoops.

    Leach only genereated 10,000 in outside income, if my facts are correct. I have seen highschool baseball coaches get more funds that that.

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  • noel said:

    Anyway, Gerald is one of the reasons that Tech has attained the heights that were before unprecedented. You don’t throw out the baby w/ the bathwater. You know, how would you feel if the only way you could talk to your coach was by having to talk to his lawyer? This pain in the neck working its way down is on Leach…PERIOD!
    WRECK’EM!!!

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  • watchdog113 said:

    Leach doesn’t want to pimp, but wants the bling!

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  • Mike said:

    you think lane kiffen was a better choice than leach? he had proven nothing. Tech was worthless before Leach got here and turned the team into what it is today. Have you noticed the recruits are getting better and better? Have you noticed all the new football facilities that Leach had to fight for to get? And that east side of the football stadium wouldn’t be getting built if not for the success Leach has brought here. Not to mention that Tech was Big 12 South co-champ last year. Leach isn’t asking for Mack Brown/Bob Stoops money, they are on a different pay scale thanks to all the t-shirt fans across the nation. Leach has done more with less the last 9 years than any other coach has. He has made Tech relevant. Maybe you Myers lovers wish it was like the good old days when nobody had even heard of Lubbock. Thanks to Leach Tech is on the football map. Run him out of town and Tech football quickly becomes obsolete again.

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  • watchdog113 said:

    Mike, the West stadium expansion was well under way when Leach came on board and it was a gift by Spike to the new coach. The continued expansion is due to Leach, but the original West was due to Spike. The upgrades to all the sports is due to keeping up with the Big 12 and investment made by Tech ansd it’s AD.

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  • watchdog113 said:

    And you say that my school when I graduated was “worthless”? Shame on you!!!!!

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  • Mark said:

    So the Tech administration is going to deliberately choose to embrace mediocrity because their feelings got hurt when Leach interviewed at Washington. Get ready for 5-6 seasons where most of our wins are against non-conference foes. This is Jerry Jones firing Jimmy Johnson after Johnson won his second Super Bowl all over again. I cancelled my Cowboys season tickets that day & Tech & the Red Raider Club have seen their last dime out of me if they screw this up and run Leach off.

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  • jake said:

    Leach is around .6000 in conference, he loads up on non conference jokes

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  • mbrown said:

    If Tech allows Leach to leave, this football program will drop to the cellar of the Big 12 South so fast it will make your head spin. I was in school when Steve Sloan left & saw it happen. Tech went from 10-1 to 1-9-1 in 3 short seasons. What Meyers and the Tech administration need to grasp is that Mike Leach is TALENT. As in Hollywood, TALENT gets to do whatever it wants whenever it wants. They are not normal employees. They don’t work for you. You work to keep them happy. They have something their bosses don’t have: TALENT. Athletic directors are easily replaced, not talented head coaches. Why waste your money on a stadium expansion & then let the person leave who makes it a viable project? I believe it’s time for Meyers to retire and Leach should decide who to bring in as the new Athletic Director. And Texas Tech should take the language in Mack Brown and Bob Stoops’ contracts concerning the 4 current sticking points & offer Leach the exact same language. And they should do all this yesterday.

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  • Mike said:

    watchdog – you mean the administration has to make an investment to keep up in the big 12? interesting… maybe you should let them know that

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  • letleachgo said:

    Some of you people on this post will eat dog poo for a victory. Can’t you see that Leach has been shopping his overrated rearend around while a good contract offer is on his plate. LOYALTY……..he has no idea what loyalty is. If he gets his demands then he will assure to break your heart after next season. Please let him go find a job somewhere else. It amazes me that some of you people will sell your souls to the devil in order to keep a greedy ba$tard around to win games. Nothing good will come from Leach now that it has come out that he has interviewed for more than nine jobs. Texas Tech doesn’t deserve his crap. He is worse than Knight leaving midway during the season. This kind of BS makes Tech look like The University of Joke Institute. Tech is better than that. Some of you people have no pride. Get a life ding-a-lings.

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  • watchdog113 said:

    Mike they know and are. If youo pay the coach all your money there’s nothing left. At least Knight donated books to the Tech Library. What’s Leach donated? Some pizzas to some campers!

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  • RaiderDave said:

    jake +
    Mikes BigXII record is 55%.

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  • Mike said:

    thats your argument? he hasn’t donated anything? for an athletic department that is almost entirely funded by the football program it seems silly to be biting the hand that feeds right now. if you’re gonna pinch some pennies, go do it in a program that hasn’t brought in much for the school. maybe they can start by taking marsha sharp and bobby knight off the payroll

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  • letleachgo said:

    LJE…..Myers was a great hoops coach . His name is Myers…not Meyers and you are absolutely wrong for saying he wasn’t the best coach when Tech won the SWC CHAMPIONSHIP in the 80’s. He was voted Coach of the Year in 85 by the sportswriters. To bad you were on “kool-aide” when that happened.

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  • Mike said:

    I love you Melvin

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  • the Truth said:

    Tech fans are the worst… No matter what happens between Leach and TTU, fans shouldn’t threaten their loyalty to the university or their contributions to the RRC. What a disgrace. What’s the admin supposed to do when half the fan base threatens to withhold donations if Leach leaves, and the other half threaten to withhold donations if he stays? You should support the university unconditionally and realize that tough decisions won’t always go your way.

    And to the Myers bashers: like it or not, Myers has raised the profile of Tech by hiring Leach, Knight and Dan Spencer. If you still live in Lubbock, get on the baseball bandwagon early… Spencer was a fantastic hire. As was Leach.

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  • bearman said:

    Seriously spencer hasn’t proven himself yet here and the knight thing was nothing but a publicity stunt that has backfired horribly!!!
    but did u notice how myers rolled out the red carpet for the knight family who didn’t and wont reach half the success leach has at tech!!!

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  • Tech71 said:

    Why is my post from 9:51 am still waiting moderation and 32 posts have appeared online since?

    Is it because I listed 21 weaknesses of Coach Leach?

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  • letleachgo said:

    Melvin…. His job as AD isn’t to humor anyone, and your statement about him being humorless just shows us that he is serious about his job. Gerald Myers is a outstanding person that will give a guy like you some support. Some of you Myers bashers weren’t saying these things about him before these contract issues made news. At least he has offered Leach a contract. If Leach fails to win next year, you twisted, bandwagon jumping, fair weather fans will be calling for Myers to fire Leach. You can’t have it both ways. Have a little faith in both Myers and Leach in their efforts to work things out. Its not the end of the world…yet.

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  • bearman said:

    im not a bandwagon fan im a grad student and have been a tech fan my whole life and have seen womens basketball, mens basketball and baseball crumble under myers and then when he threatens to take away the only competitive sport my school has because of his ego you call people bandwagon fans just because they care about there schools athletics obviously you haven’t invested as much as the leach supporters!!!!

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  • Eric in New Mexico said:

    Support the university unconditionally? Why would anyone do that? Are they God? Are they perfect? Or rather, do they have a brain cloud that prevents them from seeing straight? And should we let them do our thinking? From what I’ve seen, the administration is a stuffy, backwards entity who can’t see around them that people and other schools change with the times and don’t throw out someone who has brought in lots of money and national recognition. I’ve been watching Myers since he was at Borger High School. He was small town then and he’s small town now. And it’s his rigid personality that prevents free thought from occurring. Oh, how terrible that Mike Leach and his agents dared to attempt something new. The truth is, Myers was never that good as a coach at Tech. Look at his record. And, in games, he reminded me of Bob Knight (maybe that explains the closeness between them). He still wants to be the good ol’ boy that does things his way, even if those things aren’t effective. And he is the major roadblock in the talks between Mike Leach and Tech. And all this talk about Leach being disloyal. I don’t remember him murdering anyone. Or giving away plays to another opponent. This is business, not the military. But, some people want him to quietly abide by rules that may be archaic and self defeating. Others talk about making sure he never leaves, as if that was possible with any coach. But, if he goes (ie; forced out), don’t expect any Big 12 South co-championships or national rankings anytime soon. Tech football will enter into another dead zone, just like past Tech teams that couldn’t get enough good recruits to stay competitive. The last recruiting class was outstanding, but don’t expect that to happen if Leach is no longer at Tech. And Myers will be patting himself on the back, thinking he saved money for the school and showed that outsider who was really in charge. GO RAIDERS!

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  • DD said:

    Well ther you go again, the same ol ney sayers. Who cares about the extension, Leach has the rest of his contract to finish, and then hopefully all you none believers will pony up and become real fans if the RED RAIDERS, instead of self appointed watchdogs of the program.

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  • watchdog113 said:

    71 sure it wasn’t 71 weaknesses?

    the Truth, “You should support the university unconditionally ” that sounds like a parent?

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  • watchdog113 said:

    DD, better watch those words you say. It’s an honor to be called “watchdog”!

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  • Mark said:

    Unconditional support of mediocrity & failure is what got Tech to where it is today. The only glimmer of excellence in the entire athletic dept is football. And Myers is trying to destroy that. You want my money? Earn it.

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  • letleachgo said:

    bearman……your school?……Its’ Texas Tech University…..I graduated from Tech and I played hoops under Myers. There is nothing you can say about Myers that a lot of foolish people haven’t already said. I am a huge supporter of TECH ATHLETICS and I care about the direction of the football program. It is simple…..tell your daddy….Leach to sign the freakin’ contract and all will be happy.

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  • Pirate of the South Plains said:

    Raiderfan couldn’t have said it better, as he simply stated the facts.

    Yea some other schools (KSU, KSU’s) have won a championship but do NOT HAVE A CONSISTENT WINNING PROGRAM.

    I enjoy Hance’s speeches to incoming freshman. This year he went home and watched the Texas game again into the wee hours. But he need’s to grab ahold of Leach/ Meyers and go have a beer and work this out! What purpose does a mid Feb deadline serve? If Leach is not signed, this is going to tarnish Tech’s credibility on any future hires. I remember the 4-7, 5-8 seasons. They are not fun even if one of those wins is against the aggies.

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  • Pirate of the South Plains said:

    letleach go, Myers was a coach for a zillion years and was coach of the year for one? Not impressive at all

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  • watchdog113 said:

    Pirate, the deadline is in place so Tech know where it stands and can start the search for Leach’s replacement.

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  • Sign Mike said:

    This is an email I sent to the office of the Chancellor, I suggest those that truly want to keep Leach follow suit and don’t go unheard. The email address is below.

    Chancellor@ttu.edu

    I for one, want Coach Leach to return to Tech. I’m a recent Grad, that donates as much as I can to the school and would be deeply disappointed if Tech lets Mike Leach walk away. We are on the brink of something very special with this University and football team. I grew up in Houston and never paid any attention to Tech until High School, now a large number of high schoolers love Tech b/c of the football team (Tech’s exposure in Houston is growing, but still behind UT, A&M, and LSU). The recent exponential growth Tech has had is largely from well-known sports team, they are the face of the University. We are building Tradition, don’t forget that Tradition is not built over night and commitments and sacrifices must be made.

    Also, Mike likes Tech he has 2 daughters currently enrolled at Tech. Mack Brown, Bob Stoops, Mike Gundy, and Mike Sherman cannot say they have children currently enrolled where they coach. Not to sound ignorant, but it is time Myers takes a step back, he is NOT bigger than Texas Tech and at this point he is only hurting us with his current role in the negations. Name any AD that in his tenure lost THREE coaches near the same caliber of the following coaches: Marsha Sharp (Overall Record: 557-175 and 1993 Women’s College National Champion), Bobby Knight (Overall Record: 902-371, 3 time Men’s College Basketball Champion, 1 NIT Championship, Naismith College Coach of the Year 1987,& 2007 Naismith Award for Men’s Outstanding Contribution to Basketball, the list goes on) and Mike Leach (Overall Record: 76-39 2008 AP Big 12 Coach of the Year, 2008 Big 12 Coach of the Year, 9 Consecutive Winning Seasons, 9 Consecutive Bowl Appearances and 4 Top 25 Seasons once again the list goes on)…..How can you keep your job after that? (For the record Myers Record at Tech was 326-261)

    This is a quote from Myers website:

    “Revenue also has seen a dramatic increase under Myers. Leach’s football program generated $13,150,000
    in revenue last year.
    Tech’s increase in revenue under Myers has allowed the university to make renovations to Jones SBC
    Stadium as well as build the Marsha Sharp Center for Student-Athletes.
    The success of Tech, though, isn’t just in wins and losses or dollars and cents. Tech’s success is seen
    arguably where it counts most — the classroom.”

    http://www.irim.ttu.edu/SACSFocusReport/PDF/GeraldMyersBio.pdf

    His own Biography points out that LEACH’s football team generated more $13 million. Sure a lot of that goes right back into the hands of the athletic department, but a lot also goes to keep Tech growing academically. Let’s keep Tech growing and the best way to do this is by keeping Mike Leach.

    What else does Mike Leach need to do, to have the job security that Myers obviously has? Coach Leach has turned an unknown program to a program recognized across the country and this was accomplished in less than 10 years, can you imagine the next ten years?

    My last point will be short, this year I noticed a new campaign, “The Drive for 35”. How can the University expect the alumni to support the school, when our voice goes unheard? I noticed an increase in marketing material requesting donations from alumni and letters from the Chancellor specifically point out the great success Coach Leach’s program had. Stand by the request you made when petitioning for my dollars, and re-sign Coach Leach. Thanks for your time and good luck throughout the negotiations.

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  • bearman said:

    response to letleachgo-

    if your daddy myers lets leach go he might as well pack his bags too beacuse the students and alumni will see that he is gone too.
    everybody has been relatively quiet about the way he has handled baseball and both basketball programs but if he mishandles football the way he has the others he goes on the choping block!!
    Leach is the only hire besides wes kitley that is making him seem somewhat smart as an a.d.!!!! myers should do this to atleast save face and have a good reputation for further hires down the road!! wat good coach is going to come here when they see that our a.d. wont pay a man for giving a program it’s best season in school history!! Lubbock needs all the help it can get as it is!!!

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  • Amused said:

    i hope we don’t run our new kicker off…. he’s a freebie….

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  • melvin block said:

    Maybe cooler heads will prevail just as they have in the past at Tech.

    Leach & Myers, & Hance could all go have lunch at the United Market Street… er wait a minute.

    One of those has already done that & it proceeded into a shoving match between daddy Knight & the old Tech Prez.

    Folks, these negotiators have already lost any shred of respectability anyhow. They’re really just childish old guys — all of them. Their being sober & dignified is all an act. Pitiful to acknowledge, but true.

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  • Merle said:

    the problem with leach is not that he is a wh*re but that he went to law school. and did wat? learn football? no! i like leach he is a great football coach even tho he went to school to be a lawyer. all he is doing right now is acting like one. he will stay but he wants to squeeze as much money out of us as he can – just like he has been taught to do – that is one thing i dont like about him. he needs to quit all these wh*re like activity’s! come opening kickoff ill be on the edge of my seat hardly abel to wait to see that air raid attack shred the defenses!!!!

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  • Paxton said:

    Has anyone seen the latest atrocity agreed to by Gerald Myers????????? Taylor Potts and Co. will now be traveling to Austin on Sept 19th instead of November 7th in order for the game to be on National TV. I’m sorry, wasn’t last year’s game the ABC Saturday night game. Great choice guys, here Taylor- have the team that is reeling by not playing in last years national championship game because Tech beat them in your 3rd career start. Gerald you suck. I can only say this because it could have been stopped. PERIOD. Talk about setting yourself up for success?????WHAT A DAMMM JOKE.

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  • Eddie P said:

    Many of you have no clue of what you are talking about and, frankly, sound like Aggies trying to divide the Red Raider fan base. Leach owns A&M and, therefore, it would be an aggie fan’s dream to force fans into bailing on Leach. Real stupid. dano and flash lite are both aggies, and “letleachgo” says enough in the name to trust whatever he says. RaiderDave cannot find another coach in Texas Tech’s history to match what Leach has done. None have ever been to 9 bowl games. None have won 5. None have won the Cotton Bowl (and Leach’s squad should have won against Alabama, but it’s kind of hard to have a passing game work when DBs are allowed to bump, hold and interfere with our WRs). His teams yearly get rated in the mid 30’s as far as recruiting classes go, yet seem to finish in the upper echelon of the Big 12 each year. Who has been more successful in the Big 12? Only OU and UT. And we’re griping about that? And I don’t know how many times it seems that refs blew games in UT’s favor in the past few seasons. No other coach Tech has had would have the guts to stand up to the Big 12, but Leach did. No other coach has supported his fan base the way Leach has. Leach loves it at Tech, but maybe he just doesn’t love the AD. ‘Nuff said? I think so.

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  • Eddie P said:

    Paxton makes a great point. I bet that is an inside job to throw Leach under the bus. Way to go Myers.

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  • Pirate of the South Plains said:

    watchdog, Leach is signed for 2 more years regardless. The deadline was set to look for a coach for the 2011 season?

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  • melvin block said:

    If Leach is here a second longer than the last game is over this fall it’ll be a miracle on the order of fishes & wine.

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  • watchdog113 said:

    Pirate, you really think Leach would stay for his last year? How will the recruiting be in Feb 2009? I think that the last season game in 09 will be his last if he doesn’t sign. Either by resigning and him going elsewhere, or him resigning and retiring (because no one else want to put up with his antics), him resigning and taking a job in the AD like Sharp and Knight, or him being fired. Either way there will be a new coach come 2010 if he doesn’t sign. Come on Leach SIGN!

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  • watchdog113 said:

    gosh where does the time go…that should be Feb. 2010!

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  • Shane said:

    If Myers won’t resign him to coach, I don’t see Leach in the AD’s office. If this doesn’t work out, Tech will be forced to terminate Leach at season’s end, eat a fair amount of money, and end up with a lesser coach, not because we have to, but because that’s what you can expect from Myers. Leach, on the other hand, will end up somewhere making the same or less money, with less talent, and win fewer games. It’s a lose/lose proposition. Both sides should realize what is at stake for each of them, and get this done.

    As for Myers, I was against his hiring from the get go, but it’s not like quality candidiates were coming out of the woodwork. That may be one thing that has changed.

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  • watchdog113 said:

    Hey Shane you must be an ol’ fart if you were here before Coach Myers hire.

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  • raiderforever said:

    If the Myers and Hance let Leach get away, it will be the biggest mistake Tech has ever made. Kent, I blame you and Gerald for this joke. You both must be feeble minded. If Leach leaves, I hope every true Tech fan asks for resignations from both you. Both of you must have the biggest egoes. Watchdog I’ll bet you didn’t even graduate from Tech. You probably don’t even go to the games. You are rude calling Shane an old fart. Why don’t you grow up. You sound real imature. Shut your dumb yapper up. You don’t have a clue about any of this!.

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  • the Truth said:

    Lost in all this mess is the fact that Leach isn’t that good…

    Since 1998 I’ve seen Texas, OU, A&M, K-State, Missouri, Nebraska, Kansas and Colorado play in the Big 12 Championship game. Tech never has.

    I’ve also seen Illinois, Hawaii, Louisville, Utah, Wake Forest, West Virginia, and Cincinnati play in BCS bowls. Tech never has.

    What are we really clinging to???

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  • ttu said:

    One thing everyone forgets, Leach has done more with less talented players. Other then a few good players here and there, when it comes to recruiting in the past Tech’s recruiting classes ranked in the bottom half of the big 12.It has started to get a little better, and the only reason is because of leach. Recruits are seeing the success he is having, and we are actually starting to get attention from top notch players that in the past wouldn’t give tech the time of day. Look at the WR that was committed to OU all year and then signed with us a few weeks ago. Without leach, there is no way in hell that would have ever happened. Players want to play for him, this years recruiting class ranking wise is arguably the best the program has ever seen. To get rid of the guy in charge of this progress, who also just coached the team to its best season in school history is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Leach has put us on the map, and if we lose him because of this mess for the first time in my life I will be ashamed to be a Tech fan.

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  • pootpie said:

    the truth— you’re above facts need to be clarified.

    Hawaii, Cincinnati, Louisville, don’t play in a DIVISION that has the calibur of Oklahoma, Texas, & Okla. St. — & neither do the little big-12 north teams you mentioned.

    BCS is stacked against teams like Tech ever getting there. If Tom Landry were coaching the Tech recruits we couldn’t get there.

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  • KWFINN said:

    the worst part is, Myers is holding it against Leach for looking elsewhere after saying we have no more money for you so if you need to look elsewhere, we understand. Obviously that senile old liar forgot his previous stance. He can barely complete ledgible sentences these days and acts more like an overemotional, out of control, loose cannon. Oh, that was his buddy Bobby Knight! Leach has brought this program to a point we have only dreamed about in the past. We are being put up against UT in early Sept due to the ratings we garnered last year. Would Spike, or any other Dyke’s for that matter, been able to take us to that status. NO!!! Myers is out of touch and needs to go.

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  • the Truth said:

    Pootpie,

    As long as Tech has the mentality that it’s okay to fight for third place, we’ll always be fighting for third place.

    The six teams in the Big 12 South managed to accumulate ONE bowl win this year. And even that required a miracle ending (Texas v Ohio State). So I don’t wanna hear excuses about how tough life is in the Big 12 South. Other conferences seem to beat us just fine.

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  • watchdog113 said:

    Raiderforever yes I am a 6 season tickets holder and yes to a degree from a “worthless” university (as stated from previous poster since it was B.L – before Leach). BTW I also server on my college’s alumni association board!

    an ol’ fart was not meant to be negative just a colloquial expression! Lighten up.

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  • pootpie said:

    I was speaking specifically to the teams YOU mentioned in your first post.

    They were only in BCS bowls becuase of some screwball rules, not that they were great teams

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  • ttu said:

    Leach wins more with less talented players. Other then a few good players here and there, techs recruiting classes in the past have ranked in the bottom half of the big 12. Leach is starting to change that. Players want to play for him, look at the recruit this year that was committed to OU all year and then signed with us a couple weeks ago. Something like that in the past would never happen for tech.Tech is starting to get attention from top notch recruits that in the past would have given tech the time of day. Graham Harrell and Michael Crabtree, two of the best players in the nation,…who got them here? LEACH. I don’t know how anyone who calls themself a tech fan could want the guy to leave who has put us on the map. Especially when he is coming off the best season in tech history. If we let Leach go over this mess, for the first time in my life I will be ashamed to be a tech fan.

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  • ttu said:

    correction: recruits that in the past would NOT have given us the time of day

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  • Prayercap said:

    Whether Mike Leach stays or goes, can we please have a feel good ceremony & retire Greald Myers?

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  • NANA said:

    THE WAY I SEE IT, MYERS IS THE ONE WITH THE EGO PROBLEM. LEACH’S RECORD FAR SURPASSES ANYTHING MYERS WAS ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER. MYERSEGO HAS GOTTEN HIM INTO TO TROUBLE BEFORE AND I AM SURE WILL CONTINUE TO BE A THORN IN THE SIDE OF TTU ATHLETICS.

    ANOTHER THING I HAVE COME TO REALIZE THAT YOU PUT PEOPLE INTO POSITIONS OF POWERS AND THEY HAVE A TENDANCY TO GO CRAZY. WHICH LEADS ME TO ANOTHER POINT. MYERS HAS OFTEN SAID THAT ONE OF HIS MENTORS WAS EDDIE SUTTON. HAVE YOU EVER NOTICED HOW MUCH THEY LOOK ALIKE WHEN THINGS AREN’T GOING THEIR WAY? AND LOOKED WHAT HAPPENED TO DEAR OLD EDDIE!!!!

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