Finding positives difficult, but finding motivation for ’09 easy
Full 2008 Cotton Bowl Coverage
BY DON WILLIAMS l AVALANCHE-JOURNAL
DALLAS – When Texas Tech swept like a West Texas tornado through its first 10 opponents and rose in the rankings to No.2, the Red Raiders sure didn’t conceive of a season ending this way. Stumbling twice down the stretch was bad enough, but what the Raiders did well in any of their last three games, really, would comprise a very short story.

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They finished with heart against Baylor. They played a smashing first 10 minutes Friday afternoon against Ole Miss. They couldn’t bottle all the mojo they had going in mid-November.
Ole Miss gave Tech a good working-over at the Cotton Bowl, which begged a question of did the Raiders wear down at the end of the season?
“I don’t know, maybe,” defensive coordinator Ruffin McNeill said after a 47-34 loss. “I’m going to look at film in the off-season and see what happened, get specific with it and find out. The Big 12, we beat each other up, week in and week out. We always have. I’ll review it in the off-season and see what I can do better and what we can do better.”
After what happened Friday, know this: McNeill will have plenty to motivate his players going into the spring. Tech’s defense, a source of timely big plays during that 10-0 beginning, fell off at the end of the season.
Ole Miss’ total offense average this season would have ranked ninth in the Big 12, yet the Rebels rolled up 515 yards Friday, including 223 on the ground, and converted more than half their first downs. Two games ago, Tech looked even worse in a 65-21 loss at Oklahoma.
Defensively, the Raiders can get it back. They’re going to have to.
For the first time in – you tell me, when? – Tech will go into next season counting on its defense as much or more than its offense. Especially early. It will take time for Taylor Potts to step in for Graham Harrell. Rylan Reed, Louis Vasquez and Stephen Hamby – the left side of the best Tech line this decade – won’t be on hand to protect him. Counting on Baron Batch and Shannon Woods to be a one-two punch this season worked out better than anyone dared hope. Can that be recreated, pairing Batch with Aaron Crawford coming off an injury or Harrison Jeffers off his redshirt season?
Eric Morris is graduating, and everyone’s going to be shocked if Mike Crabtree comes back to school.
Going into the off-season, the strength of the team is a front seven that loses only one player, end Jake Ratliff. That means the Raiders have back eight of nine guys they rotated regularly in the front four, plus the starting linebackers. Since it will be a junior-senior bunch, expect them to be eager to make amends for the way this season ended.
“If they had practiced terribly the last two weeks, I would be very disappointed,” McNeill said, “but they didn’t. They practiced well in Lubbock, really well. Then they came to Dallas, and the intensity was there.”
The Raiders’ likelihood of taking any team by second-half surprise, though, wasn’t going happen this time. Not with Ole Miss knowing Tech’s recent history. And not after the Rebels played lights out second and third quarters.
Another element that the Raiders had in their favor for 10 weeks but not Friday was mostly good health on the defensive side of the ball. No matter who you face in January, you don’t want to do it without three starting-quality defensive backs, yet that’s where the Raiders suddenly found themselves on Friday. L.A. Reed didn’t suit up, but then Darcel McBath hurt a hamstring and Jamar Wall pulled up lame returning a kickoff.
None hurt more than McBath.
“Our packages depend on Darcel, a lot of stuff,” McNeill said. “You saw when he played what happened – he gets a pick for a touchdown, he makes tackles for loss. We had a plan going into the game to use Darcel around the line of scrimmage a lot.
“When he was in the game, you saw it happen. When he was out of the game, you didn’t see the same plays being made. That’s nothing against those other kids, but Darcel’s used to getting a hundred percent of the reps. Our game plan was geared around him.”
Missing one or two players didn’t make all the difference, naturally.
It just made it worse.
Now, as the Raiders go about the business of following up an 11-win season, they’ll have Friday’s meltdown as a twin source of motivation.
What stands out to me is that we don’t do well after our down time. We started out the year slow. Yes, we won…but we should have put the hurt on some of those teams yet we allowed them to linger. Around the 4th game or so we did get our stretch of consistency on all sides of the ball until……BOOM…. off week before Oklahoma. We came out sluggish in that game. We were fast but overran ball carriers…had a flurry of missed tackles….NFL prospect players not hustling on a play not designed for them (putting the man guarding him back into the play to make several tackles). And yes….a monthlong journey of rest (so to speak with finals and holidays). Coach says we practice well which I assume we did. But if you noticed we came out sloppy even though we built an early 14 point lead in the 1st quarter. The sloppiness didn’t stop there. It continued well into the 3rd quarter when it was too late for typical Tech Bowl Heroics. Having said all of this…I definitely don’t have the answer…merely pointing out the obvious. I’m so happy for our 11 win season and I pray Crab and Captain Leach will be back next year. What a great year!!!! I’m still giddy….
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I’m wondering if the practice Ruffin was speaking of had any tackling skills teaching included?
Tech defense can’t tackle one-on-one. They mainly have to have about 3 people hit the runner at different times and hang on.
It’s pitiful really.
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The Rebels offense would have been 9th in the Big 12 because no one plays defense in the Big 12!!!! Welcome to the SEC – Hotty Toddy!!!!
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Does not matter if Tech has 11 seniors starting on defense, Ruffin’s ‘bend but don’t break ‘ mentality does not put them in position to be successful. There are many teams better than Tech with less talent simply because they do not play vanilla schemes the whole game. IE Utah. Run a blitz or stunt ever once and a while.
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Hey wallst, the Sec’s darling got smoked by the mountian west last night, Ou will dispose of your champion.
Ole Miss is on the rise, but the Sec is nothing but an old school league with no control.
Ex, all the hotdoggin by Ole Miss yesterday. You would have thought that they hadn’t won a football game, ever!
Also, why is Saban having the Alabama District Attorney’s office investigate a college matter? That man may be tough, but has no clue whats going on with his program.
I won’t get started on Ole Miss frat punks starting fights in our section of seats yesterday.
Sec stinks!
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Need to blitz and stunt. Too easy to run playaction without that stuff. Good game by Ole Miss.
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It was the year that we had all been waiting for. And we won many games that we had to win. The degree of the loss to Oklahoma is what disrupted Tech’s momentum not the Ole Miss defense. Even Baylor smelled the blood of this demoralized and stunned team. Perhaps the lack of experience of the team and of the coach against a perennial up-the-gut-OK Goliath; not to mention the by week! drained Tech’s OSU-destroying-type intensity. Actually, for this type of team, OK should have been played the very next weekend banged up and all. This season is the new benchmark, however. Leach learned a lot; that is what will pay the dividends when this year comes again. And it will. And hopefully more blue chip RBs and defensive linemen will lean toward Lubbock. Thank you Texas Tech!! You helped me endure the presidential election!!!
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We need to find an aggressive defensive coordinator. Too bad the Utah DC is leaving!!
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This offense has always stunk against a decent defense that puts pressure on the QB. It happens everytime we play someone that understands that.
By the same token, we don’t use that type of defense which is proven to work.
Insanity is continuing to do the same thing and getting the same results.
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Mike, We proved against Texas that we can play that kind of defense. From the initial safety to shutting down the Texas running game, our defense rose again and again. We came out and punched Texas in the mouth. There was a big momentum change in the 3rd quarter when the officials failed to call the clips on Shipley’s punt return. Texas should have been on their own 35 instead of getting 7 points to begin their comeback. We would have beaten Texas by 3 touchdowns if not for a huge zebra favor. My problem is that I just don’t understand why we don’t play defense like that week after week.
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Mcneill said in like week 3, they had blitz packages on reserve and he didn’t want to display them yet and would do so against later foes…Why didn’t he use them against Ole Miss? What was he waiting for? When your best DE is getting tossed around like Brandon Williams was, you need to send more people. Snead would not have been so accurate if we had made him make quick decisions. He had all the time in the world! Very disappointed in how the season ended. However, it was a great season to watch.
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The defense forgot how to tckle yesterday. It seem like the Cotton Bowl curse was in effect yesterday. The offense and defense line looked tired yesterday. Can we expect more running drills to put more life in the team..
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As a Tech alumnus from the Donny Anderson/Tom Wilson era, TT football was real fun then and is even more so now in the Mike Leach era. The ’09 Texas game even beat out the ’65 Aggie game, which is saying something! Yes the OU game was demoralizing & dampened some water-cooler discussions, and the Ol’ Miss game disappointing, but it was not those teams’ first rodeo either. Folks, everyone can not win them all. Thanks for a fun year Tech!
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Why did we practice on artifical tuff at Cowboy stadium, while Ole Miss practiced on grass at SMU? Looked like OlE MISS was use to the grass.
Why did we not change cleats at half time to longer ones. Would have solved the slippage problems.
PAC 10 ref’s missed two to three major calls. One on the punt return when our player was hit from behind. and a few holding calls on their offensive lines.
We never blitzed and it showed. McNeill either knows we don’t have the speed and talent to do so, or he was out coached.
4th and 4 and you run a quarterback sneak? WHAT!
Harrell had a touchdown just before half if he does not slow down, and worries about being hit. Tewbow would have had that TD.
Tech receivers drop to many balls Leong letting the ball go through his hands killed a drive.
McBath and Walls going down to injury hurt us really bad. But that goes to coaching your second teamers should be ready! The second team defense looked confused and worried more about making mistakes than making plays.
I appreciate this team and what they acheived this season. I am more excited about next season as Taylor Potts has a cannon for an arm and in the program for three years he will be better than Harrell, and we have six to seven receivers coming back with playing time. We will miss Morris and Crabtree. With Batch, Crawford, and Jefferies, at RB we don’t miss a step and our offensive line has talent coming into next season.
We need to recruit some stud linebackers from JUCO’s that have speed and talent. Everywhere else on the defense we are solid. We need Linebackers badly. We need to recruit about 5-6 this fall.
McNeill better put blitiz packages together and find the talent to do it. the base 4-3 will not work. See, OU, BU and OLE MISS for examples.
Looking forward to ’09 and thanks for a great ’08…I will always remember the UT game in ’08. Harrell is the MAN!
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I have lost respect for Ole Miss and the SEC fans since attending the game. Instead of winning gracefully all anyone said to us was “tech is not up to par with the teams we play week after week and we just proved it.” OU please beat the heck out of FLA! And why are 2 of 4 BCS championship games in SEC states? Something isn’t right about that.
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finding motivation for ‘09 easy
True statement.
OU, UT, A&M have all won a Big 12 conference Championship.
That should be the motivation for next season.
We won a share of the big 12 south, Next step Conference Championship. GO TECH in ’09
UTAH 13-0 should be National Champs.
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I actually thought that the defense didn’t necessarily so much miss tackles, as much as they were in no position at all to make the tackles in the first place!
Hardly any aggression or pursuit to the ball. Those Ole Miss backs could have walked through the line almost untouched!
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Hey Geno, Ole Miss fans may have over reacted after the game, but they had cause. All we heard over here were Tech smears, such as ” We don’t want to play in the Cotton Bowl, against a 2nd tier SEC team”. Tech Fans are concerned about not getting “RESPECT” , but they are also guilty of not giving respect also. How many of you thought this was going to be a cake walk?
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Texas Tech plays good in one type of situation…at home. Any other time and there’s a really GOOD chance they will lose. And they usually do. You can’t expect to compete for a spot in the Big 12 title game if you can’t win on the road. I have been a fan of the TTU for about 15+ years and I’m tired of seeing an average team year in and year out. Every time Tech gets a chance to prove themselves, they blow it. Either recruit better players or get a coaching staff that can.
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I wiould like to thank all the TT fans who showed a lot of class during and after the game. I only had one incident during the game.
One lady from TT was not happy hearing our Hotty Toddy cheer for the umptenth time and decided to take a swipe at me. I’ve been to about a hundred games in the sec. I’ve had to sit in mixed company often, I have never had anyone who actually took a swipe at me.
What was even more interesting, the lady sitting right next to me was a TT fan and we chatted all during the game.
People it’s a football game, it’s entertainment, if others aren’t making it personal please don’t do anything to start a brawl.
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Texas Tech is a joke. BAR said it best. They only place they can win consistently is at the Jones. Other than that they will most likely lose. Looking at this year, they beat four Weak schools to begin, then they beat K-State who was terrible. They beat an overrated Kansas team. They beat Nebraska at with a new coach, they beat A&M with a new coach and two hurt QB’s. They barely beat UT and surrendered a huge lead. They beat an overrated OSU team and got blown out by OU and barely beat Baylor.
Let’s face it, the UT game, the Nebraska game, the Baylor game, and the Nevada game could have gone either way. The common thread is that most of them were at home and Nevada simply struggled all season.
This was TTU’s best chance this year. It only goes down hill from here because Graham Harrell and Crabtree will no longer be here to save the day or pose a huge threat to the defense.
There is no secret in to beat the Raiders. You simply have to be aggressive on defense. You press the receivers and blitz nickel backs. Cover 2 man is a great scheme and Ole Miss executed it well against the Raiders. This is why UT, OU and Missouri have shown dominance over the Raiders. Baylor has come to this realization as well and that’s why they played TTU so close.
TTU needs a new D Coordinator because the 4-3 Cover 4 scheme has been exposed in the final games of the season. OU exposed it, UT would have exposed but thei best receiver got hurt on the opening kick off. Baylor exposed it, Nebraska exposed it and yesterday we saw the SEC expose it. All you have to to do is run out of power formations and use play action. You can’t beat it in shotgun the whole game.
Raider fans get a clue!!!!! I hope I have given you a REBELation!!!!!
Go Rebels!!!!!!!!
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The difference between the Big 12 and the SEC rests in the fact that the SEC emphasized playing on both sides of the ball. The Big 12 is an offensive league. Texas Tech got exposed on a national scene twice this year. I would say better luck next year, but they will lose to UT, OU, Nebraska, Baylor, and OK State. The Kansas game could go either way. They will beat K State and A&M. Additionally they will win the first four non conference games against the Pop Warner, YFL, and Pee-Wee League teams they choose to schedue to solidify a bowl bid regardless of how they fare in the Big 12. Just like the offense is based on a system the scheduling from year to year is based on a system as well. It guarantees any coach a bowl bid.
There you have it, another REBELation!!!!!!!
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uh seems like we cannot get any patsies like ole miss (which is a very long way from Heaven…actually closer to hell…)play us on a regular basis after the last home and home series with them.
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Well, I wasn’t going to post until I read the two (2) from TTU Fluke. It’s a good thing that Ole’ Miss won the football game, and glad it wasn’t a spelling bee. Rebels. What a name. Uh, Rebels you already lost the Civil War about 200 years ago. Why don’t you improve the education system in your sorry a$$ state. I’d rather work as a janitor in any state college in TX, even aTm, than live in your crappy state. Obviously, you don’t have computers in Mississippi, so you have to go outside your “state” and go on another team’s BB to make dumb-a$$ comments like those. Yeah, you won, so what? Uh, what happened to the Crimson Tide, #2 in your conference?
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Tisk Tisk Tisk!! Stew in your LOSS. Texas Tech is overrated and the nation found that out when they played OU and Ole Miss. We hosted the first Presidential Debate and spanked yall in the Big D. Raidernation is upset and has nothing to look forward to as it only goes down hill from here. Do not get upset because the entire nation is not impressed by the TTU fluke train. Play a real non-conference schedule and you will learn how to win against the SEC. TOTAL DOMINATION!!!!! Has the Big 12 South won a bowl game yet?
TTURR, we would like to beat you on a regular basis but TTU doesn’t schedule real opponents. They just schedule games against weak teams they know they can beat.
Face it losers… The truth hurts!!!!!
There you have it!!!! Another REBELation!!!!!
TTU
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Being one who just a college football fan I will say this ….
All this SEC / Big 12 stuff is plain crap.
Defense wins championships. It always has been and always will be. A championship team will not allow 400-500-600 yards in a game.
A team can NEVER lose if its defense allows 0 points. But a team that scores 40 points a game CAN lose. I am reminded of the Oklahoma / Oklahoma State game. The losing team scored over 40 points and LOST.
Texas Tech simply needs to focus on defense and to focus on recruiting defense. Until you build a defense that can neutralize your own offense in practice ~ don’t disappoint yourself in fantasies of national titles. There must be balance.
The Big 12 is out of wack offense / defense. Instead of having the mindset of out-scoring the opponent, has it not occurred to anyone to simply STOP them??? Any team CAN be stopped.
Oklahoma and Texas comes closest to defying that balance. Oklahoma is simply awesome this year, but I am concerned about their defense. Florida can keep up in scoring. But can Oklahoma make any stops?
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Well put. Talmadge! I have always said the Big 12 is a strictly offensive conference. The mentality is simply to outscore everyone. Raider fans get a clue. Cotton Bowl losses are as good as it gets with no emphasis on defense. To be at the top you must play on both sides of the ball. Not run the score up on offense and and bend but don’t break on defense. TTU will always be behind, UT and OU! Baylor and OSU are in the process of pulling away as well. A&M is a year or two away. Then TTU will be the Butt of the Big 12 South! Have a happy offseason!!
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I have lived in Texas and Mississippi. Both are fine places to live. I live in rural area of MS now. My family and I have all the conveniences you have in Texas. I live a few miles from Oxford and Ole Miss. Many retires have bought houses and apartments in Oxford. Like Texas, we have great people and the other kind, too. (And, of course, we have a Nutt.)
Now, if you want to gouge each other go ahead but let’s leave the criticism of states and their people out of the discussions. We are American brothers and sisters no matter what state we live in.
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I really think when people go on other people’s web sites to make terrible untrue comments about their team is truly classless. Do you not have anything better to do? When was your last bowl game victory before yesterday? How many bowls have you guys been to the last few years? How many losing seasons have you had in the last few years? Maybe you forgot those days TTU FLUKE. The arrogance of the SEC really showed itself last night with Alabama going down. Where was the famous SEC defense in that game? Ole Miss played a great game yesterday no doubt, but it’s really amazing to me that teams that go and have a great bowl game and a good run at the end of the year, suddenly forget their records over the last few years. Weren’t you guys the butt of the SEC over the last few years??? Quit talking trash about other teams, and just enjoy your win. Where has sportmanship gone? Go OU and Go Horns!
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Tech definitely got beat yesterday. I’d say we’d win 2 out of 3, but that’s not going to happen.
Good game, Rebels. I like your coach…seems like a class guy.
Too bad some of the Ole Miss fans don’t follow his lead. I can’t ever imagine going on the website of the opposing team and rubbing a loss in their faces–totally classless.
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I would like to apolize to Ole Ms, TT has no class when they lose they cry, cry cry, cry, and cry. TT it is time you understand that it take a special people to make a great school and football team.
Your education does not stand out at all. So don’t start bashing colleges.
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Nevada struggled all year? Really? Let’s see, they lost 6 ballgames, sure. But 4 of those ballgames were by 7 points or less. I don’t necessarily call that struggling. They should have beaten an undefeated Boise State squad, if you don’t remember. And you are just talking trash anyway, so anything you say really doesn’t mean that much. We all know what we have here at Texas Tech and are very proud of this football team. You were lucky to win the game. Graham nearly scored right before halftime on a long scramble. Yeah, our QB nearly scored on a near 50 yard scamper. Where was your defense there? And Crabtree has been playing hurt the last half of the season and slips down, allowing an easy touchdown for you. We did more to lose this game than Ole Miss did to win it, and you know it. Deep down inside you do.
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Deep down inside I know that the real score was 47-15 if we want to talk hypothetically. We spotted TTU the first 14 just to make it a game. You know exactly what you have at TTU. A loss and a down hill slide soon to come. Nevada lost six games. That’s a ton. We know that Tech barely won against Nebraska, UT, Nevada, and Baylor. Truth be told TTU struggled this season as well. As far as the 50 yard scramble, its called prevent defense. But I forgot, you wouldn’t know what that is rooting for Tech. The Big know nothing about defense. Deep down inside you know that score did not indicate how the game was played and it does not reflect the blow out. TTU talks of BCS but can’t even win at the Cotton Bowl. One thing is for sure, they played as soft as “cotton.”
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Teams win championships. Defenses are a must! Reading the epaper, I noticed that Katy HS (Texas) won its second state 5A championship (back to back) and they did it with defense — their coach says none of the players are even being looked at by D-1 schools. Too bad, from what I have seen on the tube (replays of the game) they have a couple of defensive linemen and at least one defensive secondary player that Tech should look at!
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Get a clue Fluke. Do we need to go over the teams which beat Ole Miss this year. There was one thing apparent from the game Friday. While Tech was apathetic about being at the Cotton Bowl, it was clearly the biggest game in the history of Ole Miss. While Tech will continue to move its program forward in many respects, Ole Miss has reached it’s pinnacle in the SEC.
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Shane you don’t have a clue. Try tennis.
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Nice of you to think so highly of the “ded raiders.” Florida, you know the team that plays on Thursday against that other team that blew TTU out in Norman Ok, that was the biggest game in the history of Ole Miss. The Cotton Bowl was business as usual. The Raiders lost again away from the friendly confines of the Jones. TTU has reached its pinnacle in the Big 12. Its only down hill from here. TTU is as soft as cotton, that’s why they got the invite.
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Okay, Fluke for Dummies…Ole Miss lost to 8-5 Wake Forest, to 7-6 Vanderbilt (are you kidding me?) and 7-6 South Carolina (are you freaking kidding me?) South Carolina got BLOWN out by Florida. So is the South Carolina loss to Florida the fluke or is your narrow victory over them it? You keep mentioning games we played against Nebraska, Baylor and A&M. And remember, Nebraska finished the year 9-4. And the thing about all those games was that Tech actually won. So what’s the big deal? We did what we had to do to win when winning sometimes was almost a distant wish. YOU LOST THOSE GAMES I JUST MENTIONED. Hear me? LOST. Just saying…
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One more thing, Fluke, South Carolina and Vanderbilt finished the year above .500 thanks to OLE MISS.
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Shane, dude?!?!?!?
When you say that this was the biggest game in the history of Ole Miss, you show ignorance.
Granted, Ole Miss is not and may never be the powerhouse that it once was years ago and if you don’t know that it was a perennial power then you really are ignorant. The school has at least 1 recognized national championship and at least 2 more that they have been voted national champions in some shape or form. They have 32 bowl games (just like Texas Tech), but have won 20 of them (more than Texas Tech) (11th in the nation).
Is it not conceiveable that they have played in bigger games, than Texas Tech in the Cotton Bowl? Hello, get a clue dude.
Until Texas Tech gets a defense and WINS the Big 12 outright, I cannot understand the arrogance toward logic or a school like Ole Miss, which has every bit if not more football history and tradition as you do.
I can understand some of the fans of schools which have won multiple titles looking down their noses ~ but come on ~ you are Texas Tech, a up and coming program, but in no way on a plane that allows looking down on anyone.
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TTU Fluke, do all of us in MS a favor and just be gracious winner. Tech was a good team, it was good game, and leave it at that.
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Well, Fluke, “Rebelations”? Wow, how many times can you use that? Oh, I forgot, you’re from an educationally challenged state. How long did you keep repeating H2O=Water after the first time you heard it? Face it, your state and your college sucks. Going to Dallas was probably the highlight of your collective lives. Unfortunately, reality sets in when you have to return to Ole Miss. No wonder you get on the state’s only computer and post your crap because your school probably doesn’t have its own web-site. Yep, Tech lost, but we get to stay in Texas. Too bad you have to return to Missicrappi. Oh, Mississippi is the Indian word for sucks. Let’s see, Alabama, Louisiana, and Mississippi, which has the worst education system. You win again!
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Ole Miss wins the Cotton Bowl vs. 11-2 TTU enough said. Look at the SCOREBOARD raider fans!!!!
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Yep we won Rick Blame. Take the loss. TTU is overrated and the nation saw it live. Get a clue and get off the bangwagon. The wheels are broken! You have no rebuttals for football so you want to talk about states. Facts are facts and the truth hurts. TTU=Overrated
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The TTU fans sitting on the SEC side were pretty trashy. Before the game started they said Ole Miss didn’t even belong on the same field with TTU. We were lucky to be playing you. If you want to start bashing on states please be more insightful and not just go off of stereotypes. No we don’t have Taco Bueno on every corner, but then again we don’t have to.
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ttu fans are mad about not winning the game . you lost get over it. by the way also get a life. hotty totty.
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Before bashing our state you might want to check out the following link, you might be surprised.——-http://mississippibelieveit.com/home/
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This game reminded me of the Texas Tech vs California game.
Cal was ranked number 4 in the nation and was expecting a BCS game and we came in and spanked them because they thought they should of been in a BCS game. We thought they were overrated at the time as well. Now a few years later I understand how Cal felt.
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RickBlaine, this is about football, leave it at that. Your beloved Raiders lost, we won, get over it. You are making your fan base really look bad. I would expect a 10 year old to throw those comments, so that’s what you are in my mind now. Just a spoiled little TT fan that’s guns are in his pockets now.
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Rick Blaine,
I know you’re upset about the loss to Ole Miss, but do you really have to insult Mississippi? Lush forests, great hunting, beautiful women, fertile farmland, and very little crime and pollution doesn’t seem so bad to me. I have been to every single state in the continental U.S. (including Texas) and have concluded that Mississippi ain’t bad. You make yourself look like a total ignoramus.
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Texas Tech suffers from some of the same problems as Ole Miss. Tough conferences with huge programs that lie, cheat (Alabama especially!), and spend obscene amounts of cash to stay on top. It is almost impossible to win our conferences in a fair way. Even though Texas Tech’s year ended a bit sour, you can always take solace that you ruined Texas’ national title run. As for those who complained about obnoxious Rebel fans, be thankful that you didn’t play LSU. They’re like chimps blitzed on whiskey and cocaine. You’d still be putting out the fires in Dallas…
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The miss fans at the parade were pretty nice until i asked them what hottie tottie meant. and the guy i was talking to had to asked 3 other miss fans and no of them knew real smart to have a yell you dont even know what you are saying…oh by the way Ruffin sure we beat each other up every week in the big 12 but i think ole miss could use the same excuse please retire…
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What ever happen to good sportmanship and class?
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OK, the game’s over. Mississippi, you won the battle of the also rans – which is what BOTH of our teams were this year. Please go home now and let us commiserate amongst ourselves.
OK, that’s said. Yes the defense played poorly, in part due to not having pretty much any of the starting backfield at 100%. The front seven did not tackle well in the open field. It was a winnable game. I think it can also be said that the receiving corps (Britton excepted) dropped a lot of catchable balls that would have kept drives moving. This was aided in part by the fact that not a single interference call was made the entire game – including on one play where the Rebel corner was in constant contact with either Swindoll or Lewis (I can’t remember which) from the snap of the ball until AFTER it went incomplete.
There were lots of reasons Tech played poorly, not the least of which was being disappointed after going 11-1 for the first time EVER and then getting stuck with an also-ran bowl – which sadly is all the Cotton Bowl is anymore.
Although the defense was less than perfect in the last three games, all of these calls for Ruffin’s head are silly. Look at the entire season. The defense is significantly improved from previous years.
Don’t call so quickly for the heads of coaches. All you get with coaching changes are different people to be upset with AND FAR LESS CONSISTANT RESULTS.
We’ll all unhappy with the results of the last couple of losses, but have some perspective, and look the overall progress of the program. We were a national championship contenter this season – as most contenders do, we came up short. But how many coaches and staffs have made Tech a national title contender? Only one other than Leach – and even that other one did not have the consistant success that Leach has had.
Progress. Let others scoff at our two losses this year. What would you have thought about a two loss season five years ago? Ten years ago? Twenty years ago?
That’s what I thought.
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I guess you LITTLE 12 fans have forgotten all about UTAH beating the all mighty SOONERS a couple years ago in the Fiesta bowl. And they will get smoked by a bigger, faster, and better Florida GATOR team on the 8th. HOTTY TODDY go REBELS!!!!!!!!!!
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What do you mean you did more to lose this game than Ole Miss did to win it? Were you watching the same game? We turned the ball over 3 times! We dominated both lines and Snead had 65 yards less than Harrell w/30 less attempts not to mention over 200 yards rushing! Yes I’ll admit some of our fans were arrogant and obnoxious, but there were just as many sore losers as there were idiot frat punks, always are read some of these bowl message boards. We’ve had to hear how Tech was gonna beat the crap out of us for over a month. GUNS DOWN TECH GOT WRECKED!!!!!!!!
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I love the comment from Rebel Rouser about LSU fans. I was laughing so hard I fell out of my chair. For the most part, it’s a lot of fun reading all these posts, no matter where they’re from. GO RAIDERS!!!!!!
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Just wanted to thank yall for letting us win. It was a kind act on the part of Mike and the boys. Talking about Big 12 wearing each other down…..Let’s see…..OM played #1 Florida and won, played #1 Alabama and lost by a couple, played powerhouse LSU #12 and won. I admit Miss State and Auburn were on down years but OM played much tougher opponents than TT. Fact is there is no stronger conference than the SEC. Wait til Florida puts the icing on the cake. You all might have beaten Hawaii in a shoot out but don’t ever doubt the SEC defenses. Saying you were worn down by the Big 12 is the worst excuse I’ve ever heard. The only reason we won was because we are better. If we played again next week OM would still beat that azz.
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How many Rhode scholars does TT have this year? How many Rhode scholars does OM have this year? Lets not talk about Ms education system. Also, who has the higher graduation rate of student atheletes? Lets dont even go there.
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Okay “ColoradoReb,” why not talk about Mississippi’s education system? Graduation rates for students athletes? Where’d that come from? If Miss is so good, why do you live in CO? Assuming your home state is Miss, it still sucks. Your education system is terrible. How about that Klan? Why do you jerks come on the Tech website except to gloat. Go to your own. Oh, I forgot, some one is probably using the state’s only computer. Why are you on this website spreading your crap? Rhodes Scholars? Who gives a rat’s about that. Rebel Rouser and Rebel Steve, believe it or not, I’m not a Tech fan, and I even won some bets that TT would lose. And, yes, I can trash your sorry state. Beautiful women? Hahahahahahahahah…Where? Lush forests? Hahahahahahahahaha. Great hunting and fishing? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (even funnier). Who cares about any of that? Most people don’t visit your state, they escape from it.
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What the heck does Hotty Toddy mean?
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I think it’s a drink the Mississippi fans drink at “the grove” – their tailgating spot. but i’m not sure.
maybe we all could get some?
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“…played #1 Alabama and lost by a couple, played powerhouse LSU #12 and won” says ColoradoReb.
Powerhouse LSU? Last year you mean? NOT this year! They were average at best. Bama was as overrated as Tech, too.
Also got a kick out of someone’s post citing Ole Miss having as much football tradition and history as Tech, yada yada yada….when? And how?
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Colorado Reb- Rhodes Scholars? Now you’re really reaching. How about basic stuff. Where does your magnificent state rank for public schools? U.S. News doesn’t even rank your fine institution in its top 100. The highest rank I can find for Ole Miss is about 300. Wow, I’m really impressed. Rhodes Scholars???? Hmmmm, try just getting a basic education in Mississippi. Lots of luck. BTW: Who are Rhodes scholarships named after? This post will probably get axed like most of mine do, but I had to call you on the crap you’ve dispensed. (Melvin, you can drink with these clowns, but I wouldn’t ever be caught dead with one of them.)
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One more thing Colorado Reb. Mississippi had ONE (1) high school rated in the top 700 in the U.S. in the 2007 Newsweek. Congrats, I didn’t think you had ANY. Rhodes Scholars…..Smoke and mirrors!
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Rick,
I would like to aplogize for some classless Rebels, however, there is no need to respond with the same lack of class. Going after our state is quite childish. Do we have the worst education system. Not exactly. We do have the delta, which is the poorest counties in the nation. This area alone brings down a stats tremendously. Does Texas have poor areas? Ever been to El Paso? Also, Ole Miss has had 25 Rhodes Scholars. One this year. There have also been several from MS go to other colleges and then obtain Rhodes scholar. I personally graduated from a MS high school with a Rhodes scholar. By the way the Rhodes Scholar was named after the founder of De Beers, certainly not a Tech Fan.
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Well TT fans One poster said “When did Ole Miss win a bowl game?” Have you forgotten the 2004 Cotton Bowl was the
underdog and they beat Oklahoma State ( who had at least 2
All Americans on their team)? Or how about the time Ole Miss
beat Nebraska in a bowl game. The difference in this game is
that Ole Miss players and coaches respected their opponent and
prepared a game plan for them. TTU had no respect for us,
considered our QB to be a Texas reject and thought “What the heck
we already beat Colt Mccoy and McCoy beat him out for the starting
job at UT, so we’ll just play our base defense,” Good decision, Brainiac!
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Jeez ya’ll!!
Thank goodness the game is over!
One would think that all of this posturin’ is gonna change the outcome of the game!!
Tech fans – We lost to a great football team…. end of story.
Ole Miss fans – You won a game against a great football team… end of story.
For the sake of argument for those of you who can’t let it go: The playing field was far from level. If this game were to be replayed on a virtual landscape with all things being equal – Artificial turf, snapful referees, no injuries, a real rivalry based motivation – the outcome would probably have been different…… how different, you ask??? I’ll leave that speculation to all of you brainiacs out there to figure out!!!
I would like to comment on the BCS – it is the ONE SINGLE OBSTACLE standing in the way of quality college football. It renders ALL of the bowl games – outside of the “top” two “BCS games” – as “also-ran bowls”. No exceptions.
Winning depends on many motivational factors, not the least of which is ranking among the teams of like caliber. As long as computers and “agenda-motivated” voters are choosing the teams that compete, there will never be a CLEAR picture of who has the best team in college football. Or the second best…. or the third, etc.
How about undefeated teams like the Utes?? Don’t they deserve a REAL chance to prove they are better than those artificially picked ahead of them??
What if the Cotton Bowl was just one game on the road to a real championship game? Would the Raiders have played with more intensity?? Enough to pull the game out in the end?? (The same could be said of Cal a few years back! Not to mention a host of other lack-luster BCS bowl performances in the past!!)
Realistically, bowl games (not including the “championship” game) only serve three functions for the universities involved: Financial – the winner gets more money than the loser, and; Exposure – TV, radio, and newspaper coverage makes recruiting easier… especially with a win, and; Bragging rights (whoopie!!).
None of these “motivations” seem to enter into the heads of the players on the field.
I can hear it now…. Coach McNeil motivating his players, “….Get out there and hit someone so we can win this game, so we can afford to recruit a better player than you next year and my coaching will receive rave reviews from the media and one of you might get to play in the NFL!!”
Wow! I feel inspired already!
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Ralph seems to me like you also need to take up tennis. Tech is 0-3 vs. Ole Miss in bowl games. They are 10-21-1 all time in bowls, Ole Miss 20-12. Tech has had 26 all-americans to 45 for Ole Miss.Ole Miss has 17 all time 1st round picks w/26 active members in the NFL. Tech a mighty 7 active members active and you don’t even want me to tell you how many 1st round picks in the draft. Know what you’re talking about before you speak up. Congratulations on a very good season Tech fans you won eleven games this year! Although I see you have some idiots in Texas like we do in MS.
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Ole Miss beat LSU, and LSU beat #14 rated team BAD in their bowl game.
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TT had a great season but lost a bowl game. So for a college football lover let’s celebrate what ya’ll do have – some great coaches and players and a lot of hope for the future. I have to
address some of you that have been “hating on” Ole Miss and the
state of Mississippi – so here goes –
’98 Independence Bowl Ole Miss 35 Texas Tech 18
’99 Independence Bowl Ole Miss 27 Oklahoma 25
’02 Independence Bowl Ole Miss 27 Nebraska 23
’04 Cotton Bowl Ole Miss 31 Oklahoma State 28
’09 Cotton Bowl Ole Miss 47 Texas Tech 34
So for anyone that said Ole Miss didn’t belong on the same field
with a big 12 team…think again. Ole Miss plays against some
high class programs such as Aabama, LSU, Florida, Auburn,
Georgia, Mississippi State and others. The ones I mentioned have won Divisional titles, SEC titles and National titles in recent years.
Oh, and I forgot to mention Tennessee. They’ll be back and it seems to me they won a national title not so long ago.
I am really glad to see TT, OSU and others beginning to
challenge what could have easily been a 3 team conference –
(UT, OU, and Nebraska), and as a college football fan I am
real excited about Bill Snyder coming back to KSU.
Ya’lls team played a great game and you have nothing to be upset
about. Best of luck to TT players, coaches and fans going forward.
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Lew, you don’t mind if I call you Lew, do you? Well, Lew, yes TT lost the game, but your state and your institutions of “higher learning”(?) still suck. I don’t care if you beat NB. Tech has beaten them four times, which means absolutely nothing. Go ahead and gloat, but when you wake up in the a.m., you’ll still be in Mississippi. Guess the jokes on you. I’m not a TT fan, but I do respect them for trying. By coming on this web-site and spewing the garbage you Ole’ Miss folks have done proves you, your university(?), and your state have absolutely ZERO CLASS. None, nada…. Have a good time at Ole’ Miss.
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Oh, yes your QB is a TU reject. Where did he place in the Heisman Trophy balloting? Colt finished second, Tie-man, the guy you beat, finished third. Where was your guy? See, that doesn’t matter either. You people are pathetic, just like Miss.
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Ruff does a great job and Tech would have been 9-4 at best with out hiis leadership and bringing the team closer together. Even Harrell said there had been a lot of locker room division in the past due to the perception of a great offense playing with a poor defense.
It’s fun to talk trash, 39-33 ring a bell for anyone here? Take the ribbing good natured or bad.
For all of you US News and World Report experts out there quality education has a lot to more to do with socio-econmomic factors than geography. If you don’t believe that take a look at South Lake Carrol and what they have accomplished that no other 5A HS in Texas has. By the way, once you get outside of Texas their are these things called private schools and a lot of people go to them. Anyone want to compare Texas public with the Mississippi private schools? Mississippi is beautiful the same way southeast Texas is. Trees, running water, gulf coast, and folks with more common sense than actual cents.
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I blame the fans. The Cotton Bowl should have been a home game for us instead it was more like an away game. I was told to sit down twice and to stop yelling I don’t know how many times. My entire section sat practically the entire game and didn’t say a word.
Sitting down and wearing a red shirt doesn’t mean you’re supporting your team. You probably would have been more livid sitting on your couch. Don’t get a ticket and not show up for your team, let somebody else who is going to be vocal and, God forbid, raise a little Hell for your team. Any advantage of Dallas was unapparent. We want to play Ok State there every year? Mark down another loss, and don’t look for many students there.
Completely ashamed to sit next to “fans”
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1) What does “Hotty Toddy” (or however you say/spell it) mean??
2) We sat by some Ole Miss fans and they were gracious, spirited, polite and respectful. We (a group of 12) Tech fans were disappointed in the loss, but we enjoyed the game. Sportsmanship (good or bad) happens on and off the field.
3) We lost the Cotton Bowl, but what a great season it was! Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t this the most successful season Tech has ever had?
4) Congratulations to ALL the TTU players, coaches and staff. You all provided us LOYAL (i.e. win or lose) fans a ‘fan’tastic season full of excitement, promise, and FUN!!!!
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I sat next to some Ole Miss fans that kept telling me to look at the scoreboard.
Then they would tell me to look at the game.
I just got SO sick of it! I started to do raider power and guns up, but I just started crying.
Now I think: Shouldn’t the games themselves should MAKE us want to stand and shout, instead of my fellow raider fans forcing me to?
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Why are all of these Mississippi people still here? The game is over. Archie has left the building. Go home.
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By the way, Colorado guy (I know you’re still here, you just can’t help reading the Texas Tech message boards for some reason), you may not want to pick on TTU football for graduate rate, which to my recollection was something like 85%. I doubt y’all even have an 85% attendance rate, let alone graduation rate.
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FYI: A “Hotty Toddy” is an alcoholic beverage (usually scotch, but can also be whiskey or rum) served hot. It’s usually mixed with cider, cocoa, coffee, or tea. It was popular at Ole Miss football games way back in the 40′s and 50′s, but has lost its place as the a common beverage of choice at games. Coca cola and whiskey is easier to smuggle into games these days…
You Tech fans have a great team. Just get some pass rushers and some defensive tackles and you’ll get to the BCS. I’m just as sick of hearing about Texas and Oklahoma always getting to the BCS as I am about Alabama, LSU and Florida. Maybe one day we’ll meet each other in one of the big ones. Good luck.
P.S. Geaux to Hell LSU!!
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FORBES MAGAZINE TOP 25 PUBLIC UNIVERSITIES FOR OLE MISS IDIOT!OLE MISS!!!!!!!!
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