Red Raiders move forward with goals still in mind
BY DON WILLIAMS
AVALANCHE-JOURNAL
With its dreams of playing in a national championship game dashed, Texas Tech started on Sunday to focus on the next-best outcomes: A rare 11-win regular season, the chance to at least share a division title and the likelihood of playing in a January bowl game.
The Red Raiders can accomplish each one just by beating Baylor this weekend, but first they have to get over Saturday’s 65-21 loss at Oklahoma that knocked them out of an inside track to the BCS title game. Tech (10-1, 6-1 in the Big 12 Conference) dropped from No. 2 to No. 7 in the BCS standings released Sunday.
The Raiders accomplished a Tech first by starting the season 10-0, then set another record in game 11 — for most points allowed.
Graham Harrell and Texas Tech hope to put the 65-21 loss at the hands of Oklahoma behind them
“The team has accomplished a lot this year,’’ Tech defensive coordinator Ruffin McNeill said Sunday. “One game doesn’t make the season. We have a great core of leadership. Our leadership will respond. They responded today.’’
Tech players lifted on Sunday and watched video of their nightmarish night in Norman. They also had a team dinner of traditional Thanksgiving fare. Tech coach Mike Leach, as he often does later in the season, scratched the weekly light workout on Sunday night.
In addition to turkey, still on the table for the Red Raiders is the chance to be only the third Tech team to win 11 games in a season. If they do that, they figure to play a January postseason game for the third time in the last four years — either as an at-large selection to a BCS game or in the Cotton Bowl.
Tech can earn a share of the Big 12 South Division title by winning Saturday, though to make the Big 12 championship game the Raiders need Oklahoma to lose at Oklahoma State.
“There’s a lot of things that we have accomplished as a team that the team can still be proud of, and there’s a lot of season left for this team to accomplish things,’’ McNeill said. “That was the mood of the team (Sunday). They were disappointed, as all of us were. But we have a 24-hour rule. That’s about up. The leaders were ready to move on to the next one.’’
Eric Morris and the Texas Tech offense struggle to a season low 21 points as OU breaks Tech's 12 game win streak
In a game reminiscent of the 60-15 debacle six years ago in Norman, when the Big 12 South title was on the line, the Raiders were mauled on Saturday night. Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford led the Sooners to seven touchdowns and a field goal on their first nine possessions to built a 52-7 lead.
It was 42-7 at the half, after OU tied a school record with a 35-point second quarter.
The Raiders were never in the game after halftime.
Given that his team had won 12 in a row dating to last season — and five straight against ranked teams — Tech coach Mike Leach didn’t take his team task.
“It sours today. It wrecks today. It’s disappointing today,’’ he said. “But it doesn’t wreck what they’ve done. It doesn’t wreck the quality of the things they’ve done and how they’ve overachieved througout the year and how I think they’ll continue to.’’
Both teams had an open date the previous Saturday, and Tech coaches didn’t necessarily second-guess how they’d used the extra week.
“Maybe our guys got body punched a little by our schedule,’’ Leach said, referring to three straight November games against top-10 teams. “We need to be able to prepare and work around it, get up one more time, and so we didn’t. I think we overreacted and over-tried and fell short, but this team’s got a tremendous amount to be proud of. I’m incredibly proud of our group.’’
OU hasn’t lost a Big 12 home game since 2001 and extended its overall home winning streak to 24. It also was senior night for OU seniors, and the Raiders got caught in the crossfire.
Baron Batch and the Red Raiders look to bounce back against Baylor this weekend (John A. Bowersmith/ Avalanche-Journal)
“We had great preparation,’’ McNeill said. “We had two weeks. I thought we had really good practices, especially the first group on defense. The film study for both weeks went great and the preparation into the game.
“I thought the players at the beginning of the game, we tried too hard to do too much. There was some panic. Against a team like Oklahoma, they can take advantage of any mistake you make.’’
OU broke 50 points for the seventh time this season, and Tech was the fourth straight opponent on which the Sooners rolled up at least 58. OU finished with 625 yards total offense, including 299 on the ground. Tech’s rushing defense, ranked 20th and having allowed only one 100-yard rusher before Saturday, let speedy DeMarco Murray go for 125 yards and Chris Brown add 108. Between them, they scored five touchdowns.
The Sooners ran the ball so effectively that Bradford didn’t need to pass a lot — only 19 times — but he completed 14 for 304 yards and four touchdowns.
“It’s sort of like when our offense gets on a roll, they’re hard to stop,’’ McNeill said. “We knew Oklahoma would have the most experienced offensive line we’d faced and the best one, and secondly they had the best corps, ahead of Oklahoma State, at the skill positions. Those two units were playing at the top of their game, and they were on a roll. It’s like our offense does, and they were hard to stop.’’
“There’s a lot of things that we have accomplished as a team that the team can still
be proud of, and there’s a lot
of season left for this team
to accomplish things.”
Ruffin McNeill- Texas Tech defensive coordinator
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• Who: No. 7 Texas Tech vs. Baylor
• When: 2:30 p.m. Saturday
• Where: Jones AT&T Stadium
• Records: Baylor 4-7, 2-5 in Big 12 Conference; Texas Tech 10-1, 6-1
• Last game: Baylor 41, Texas A&M 21; Oklahoma 65, Texas Tech 21
• Last meeting: Tech 38, Baylor 7 last year in Waco
• TV: Versus (Suddenlink Cable channel 45)
• Line: Tech by 20
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that was a huge loss but be proud of your team. We horns have had share of bad lucks. And TT’s win against us was and is a legit win regardless of home advantage. Yeah we are considered to be one of the big boys because of marketability and corporate wealth…but bare in mind tech that you have had a good year. And the disappointment you have with that loss was a bit too much. But this is something that you will learn growing up as a big program. The school and fans have to learn how to adjust to all the disappointments. Hence, it is nothing but part of growing up as a program. Look at our rival OU…they have had it. I mean you guys took ‘em out of national championship last year and they even lost that BCS game afterwards. And UT…talking about losing to A&M back to back. Are we making alot of complaints? Maybe some but not most of us. We have other programs like Track, Basketball, Volleyball, Soccer, Swimming, Rowing, Baseball(all nationally ranked)…and not to mention the other athletes that came back from the Olympics with medals.
I know football is our main money making machine but to be with the big boys, learn how to deal with your upsets in a positive way. That’s how some of us horns view it. Sorry for the loss. I still think you guys are one of the best this season. Keep your guns up…it’s worth it. Hey it’s basketball season guys!!!
Hook ‘em! Beat Sooners!
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JP, thanks for your sincere comments. As a TTU alum and Red Raider to the core, I deeply wanted our team to stay undefeated and bring Lubbock and Tech a National Championship. To be out of the shadow of football traditional powerhouses was a great thing to think about (and still is)…but before I became a Raider, I was born and bred a Texan. I am in agony about the thought of an out of state team representing the Big 12 South. Take care of business this weekend. If OU wins at OSU, I pray the BCS rankings continue to point to UT as the Big 12 South representative.
Hook ‘em Horns! Wreck ‘em Tech!! TEXAS PROUD!!!
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No, it’s not basketball season yet. We are in Texas, and in Texas football is #1. We could care less about other sports right now. They’re on the backburner for now.
We have a hell of a football team, and we don’t mope around feeling sorry for ourselves after a loss. We will salvage what we have left this season, which is quite a bit for this program. Coach Leach has this program on the rise. And Tech fans don’t need Horn fans to give us pep talks by the way. I know you mean well, but we have faith in our Red Raiders no matter if they are 0 and 10 or 10 and 0.
You have a great coach and outstanding players, and they are true ambassadors for what college football is all about…But, so do we
It’s Been An Historic Season…And We Have Many Things To Be Thankful For Here In West Texas…God’s Country!
Have A Most Wonderful Day
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Thanks jp for your classy words. You are indeed right about supporting all the programs both athletic and scholastic. Your trash talking UT friends could take a lesson from you on sportsmanship (see other Tech blogs). Tech will be back starting with the Baylor game. I am proud to be a Tech alumni and look forward to a successful conclusion to a great year no matter where we end up. “GUNS UP”.
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thanks guys…sorry about my other longhorn brothers…i think they need to chill out. but you know what, you have earned the respect from most of us horns and that they are now reacting as if you guys are going to be a threat. Infact you guys been haunting us and OU for quite sometime now. We are actually impressed that you guys stepped up to the plate instead of A&M. Regardless what happened this year…you have earned our respect and always remember that you have beaten us that not even OU can pull this year. Thrash talk is now becoming more common to our campus because not only having OU and A&M as rivals…we now consider you as one (welcome…i careless what other say). And in spirit of it all…it’s nothing to be really upset about because you now belong with the big brothers. Welcome to the club…and keep it goin’. You guys have won the public…it’s sad how fast they forget. I know next year you guys will do very well again. We made Big 12 south the best and we did it because of having you around. Ignore the media….they are all hypocrites. Now everybody love OU…man…what a bunch of you know what!
Keep your guns up raiders! You are one of the best.
Hook ‘em! Beat Sooners, Gators & BAMA!
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Still the weak link is the defense, that was so obvious on Sat.
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Yeah, the defense was baaaaaaaad, but the offense didn’t do anything to win the game either.
GO RAIDERS
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ou kicked our ass from start to finish…..no excuses!!!!!!
good luck boomer sooners
i do think the drop to 7 was wrong!!!!!!!
go red raiders!!!!!!!!!
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Same old Tech. Looks good at home, beats a top team at home every year but when it comes time to go on the road and make something happen – they look like crap. Just about the time all of the Tech fans are brave enough to start sporting their Tech shirts and hats the team shows nothing has really changed. Harrell was so intimidated Saturday night, he wanted to go home to Ennis.
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Thank you JP. It is nice to hear pleasant and thoughtful words from a Longhorn fan. We have had a great season, and it has not been a fluke. I usually don’t comment or even read blogs because of all the disgusting comments and language. I really don’t know what has happened to sportmanship these days. I understand about competition and the back and forth jabbing that goes on, but some of the stuff that is written and said about our team and players is ridiculous. Sometimes I feel like we have to beat everyone by 40 pts at their place to get any true credit, and even with that it would still be regarded as a fluke. I think Tech fans are just tired of that. Thank you again for your encouragement and support.
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Good words and thoughts from JP.
TTU has a lot to enjoy with this year’s football team. This team accomplished more than any team to date.
And it is a great time of the year as football hits its most exciting time and basketball starts. I am following three TTU teams currently and just yesterday recognized that today, the Women’s Cross Country team is competing in a meet for the National Championship. What fun for TTU !!!
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OU delivered a crushing defeat. Chant at end was “overrated” and the crowd was probably right. Tech was overrated at #2.
But this football team is still #1 in terms of over-achievement!
From 2004 – 2008, in the historical polls I could find, OU’s recruiting classes were 6, 4, 8, over 25 and 7. UT, who Tech beat, was 10, 16, 10, 3 and 3. Nebraska, who Tech beat, was over 25, 5, 22, 22 and over 25. A&M, who Tech beat, was 12, 11, 25, 16 and 22. Tech in most polls was never better than 25 (though I recall that one had it in the top 20 one year), and generally between 25-35.
Moreover, on what objective standard should Tech be able to stay in the top 25 every year for the last 7 – 8 years, while Notre Dame, Michigan, UCLA, Florida State, Miami, Nebraska, A&M, Colorado, Arkansas, Pittsburg, Iowa, Tennessee and other “traditional powers,” have not, and often have even had losing seasons.
What is truly amazing is not that Tech was totally dominated by OU, at OU, on a given night.
What is truly amazing is what this team, and Tech over the Leach era, has accomplished, given its geographical and monetary limitations. (Tech supposedly has less people within a 250 mile radius than all but a very few Division I schools and ranks much higher in terms of athletic success than it does in terms of athletic budget).
Wouldn’t you really rather support this group of over-achivers over almost anyone else you can think of?
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YOU can look at it this way! ou & ut have not had a big win on the road either! dallas does not count——-all of the big 12 south wins over ranked opponents have come at home except osu over mizz.
so tu fan you are wrong! whorns have not played anybody on the road and won!!!!!!!
go red raiders
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We ain’t done yet! Wouldn’t even the most critical of fans agree that a 12-1 team is a very good and successful team? I’m proud of Tech. Remember we did the same thing to OU last year!
Go Tech! The Cotton Bowl would be great, but would’t it be better if it were Alabama rather than Ole Miss!!
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Devin, come on dude, it would not have mattered where you played ou, Tech was just way outmatched, I could see if maybe it was a close game, but the raiders didn,t even show up. Wasn’t even the same team against Texas. We could say that yall would not have beaten Texas if the game was in Austin, and truth be known you probably wouldn,t have, unlike the tech/ou game, Texas and tech was a close game, where yall palyed saturday night had no impact on the game. Stoops prepared and prepared well for the game, he knew every play yall were running and what type of a defense to run to shut it down. Leach has been using the same hand signals for years, and Stoops knows what they are.
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Billy Brown, I believe Tech would have beaten Texas in Austin. OSU almost did it.
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Tech would not have been Texas in Austin. Everyone knows that Lubbock fans are the 12th man.
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We are lucky to have this team this year. Infact, we are only expecting 9 wins this season. The only one that runs our team is McCoy. No excuses…we are not all that…but, we have to play on and move on. Throw us anywhere we already exceeded the expectation. We think ahead and hopefully Tech’s loss is not a loss. Afterall, we really enjoyed your game and you played us fair.
We followed ur success here in our frat house. And this year is a success for all of us in big 12.
Good job JP on representing our fanbase. We needed people like you. And tech did an awesome job these year. You guys have more chances of going to the national. Us?…we are just waiting for blessings.
Texas Fight!
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You know Texas Born we can say Tech would have lost or won in Austin, It’s only an opnion. Fact is all teams have 1 loss and the bcs determines who is the big 12 south champion if there is a 3 way tie.
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JP is the one guy who gets it! At least the one that I’ve seen posted on any of these blogs or boards!
Thanks, JP! Best of luck to you! Yeah, that OU bunch is on a roll and anyone will be hard pressed to beat them if they play like that again!
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I do appreciate this team. It is something very special. I will say this, it is not over. Reading these comments, I must disagree the time for reflection is not at hand. I personally believe that OU will have trouble in Stillwater (from all of the comments about home field). I have been reading the national papers and I am amazed that Tech is completely eliminated from BCS contention.
I will admit that I was surprised at just how out of sync the team seemed on Saturday, but it will get fixed.
First OU vs OSU is a major rivalry game and anything can happen. An OSU victory Tech is playing in the Big 12 Title game. So right now we need to go and take care of Baylor and get ready for a crazy weekend of football.
Go Tech
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TEXAS TECH IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE #1 IN MY BOOK , ANYONE ELSE THAT IS NOT A TECH FAN CAN KISS MY …THIS TEAM HAS WORKED HARD ALL YEAR LONG AND I GIVE THEM ALL THE RESPECT!!!! GO TECH!!!! WRECK’EM
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2 comments that make no sense to a sane person
1)Stoops knows Leach’s hand signals…so how did we beat them last year? And two years earlier?…
2)The notion that we may back into the Big 12 Championship…a third(4 teams) of the Big 12 South are in the top 12 in the BCS Ranking
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I have been,and still am, very proud of Tech’s accomplishments this year. OU played a perfect game. However, something just was not right. Even the broadcasters spoke of it. They mentioned, and we all who were watching closely noticed it, that OU was able to line up correctly at the exact time TTU called the play. It was as if they knew what play was coming next. The broadcasters said someone must have gotten TTU play book. Or perhaps they DID know every one of Leach’s hand signals. If that is true, I give credit to OU for their prep work for the big game. And I fault Leach for using the same hand signals that his former co-staff would know. The players were unfortunately caught in the middle of it all.
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Hey! Red Raiders,
Why are you so blue? You don’t need to be. It was just not your day, but OU day. There is always up and down for the teams.
Definitely, you are still in the best position into the Big 12 Championship game among UT, OU, and TTU. OSU lost two games, but UT and TTU were #1 and #2 BSC ranking, and both games were away games for OSU. OU cannot win OSU in Stillwater this week unless they can play like last week against TTU. But, it is still impossible in Stillwater. So, you will be into 12 Championship game eventually after winning against Baylor.
Just be positive Red Raiders! You are in the best position now!
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I was in the stadium Saturday. Nobody could have won in that atmosphere. I could tell we were going to get smoked before kickoff!!!! Games over. WRECK EM TECH!!!!!!! BEAT BAYLOR!!!!!!!
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To Sleepless — your #2 comment makes no sense. Check the standings TTU, tu, ou all are 6-1, osu is 5-2. IF osu protects their house and “upsets” ou, and Tech and tu take care of the cellar dwellers, then the standings as of Saturday night will be TECH 7-1, ut 7-1, ou & osu 6-2 THEREFORE WE (the PRIDE OF LUBBOCK) RED RAIDERS would be in the Big 12 Championship game by virtue of our victory over tu … the tie breaker only goes to the BCS standings if 3 or more are tied.
So for this week — GO COWBOYS!!! Beat ou!!!!!!!!!
And for ALWAYS — GOOOOOO TECH!!!!! Beat the bears!!!
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Here is a perspective on the Big 12 south by an ESPN analyst.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/notebook?page=notebook/onthemark1124
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Tech fan in Austin,
Stay in Austin, cause you obviously fit in great there.
Sleepless gets it!
That was the dumbest excuse I’ve ever heard. If you are taking what the media says(“tongue in cheek “) as fact, then you really have no clue!! If Stoops knew the hand signals, he would have known them the last to times we beat them.
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GO TTU RED RAIDERS. Yes, 11-1 is a great year. It’s good to know that we did beat UT here and OU there last year. Now only if A&M can beat UT and OSU beat OU. Wow, what would be remarkable. Probably won’t happen. But we can wish.
GO RED RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!
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Text, I agree with everything you said!
But we have earned it, if we go to the big 12 championship game. We are not backing into anything. We didn’t get to be 10 and 1 by luck!
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Why don’t you get on the T-spper page and flap your gums…
we don’t need your pseudo sympathy…. so, just leave us to our selves….. good , bad, indifference, or proud… Whatever, it’s outs!
I am sure we will beat a creditable oppenent in Jan…
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Raider fans! Harrell, McCoy and Bradford are the three O’Brien finalists for college quarterback of the year. Go to voteobrien.org and vote for Harrell!!
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Still very proud of this team! We still have the opportunity to win 11, 12, or even 13 games this season! We’ve definitely made progress this year. Hang in there, Raiders! Just beat Baylor and everything else will take care of itself.
Wreck ‘em Tech!
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Although we did lose it has still been a great season. 10 -1 is still very good. I can think of other good teams that are 10 – 1. And we are a program on the rise. So expect the best for next year. We keep getting better and will continue to. Big ups to the longhorn fans that posted you are truly one in a million. Most UT fans are not like you. And to the tech players Hey it was a rough game and we did not play how we are capable of, and Stoops showed that he does not respect us by his comments. All that said We as fans are VERY PROUD of YOU young men. Keep your heads up and your GUNZ pointed high you have given us a season to remember.
Red Raider fan for Life and future Tech alum GunZ UP!
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Just very proud to be a Red Raider.
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Texas Tech: The Red Raiders had no margin for error because they played two FCS opponents, beating Eastern Washington 49-24 and Massachusetts 56-14. Texas Tech’s 11 opponents have a combined record of 71-52.
Massachusetts has a football team ???
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Well we did get our tails whipped in every way, BUT no one can argue that we have had one hell of season. Also if OU were to lose this saturday in Stillwater to a very capable opponent, we are BIG 12 south champs. This season has been so crazy that anything could happen, KEEP YOUR HEADS UP! Gerald Meyers better do everything in his power to try and keep Leach here, he has done more for the program than anyone else could every do. God Bless Coach Leach! Guns Up!
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JP:
I agree with a lot that you said, but please do not pitty us or try to be our football program mentor. It kind of comes across poor. Appreciate the rsponse but at the same time understand how it sounds.
By the way just as a pole when did you graduate UT.
It is ok if you did not most of their fans did not..
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Class of ‘07 and i doing grad for now .Thanks kev and it s not pity really. its just sad how some reacts. Whenever ur in the “city limits” let me know… I got ur beer!…lol
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The season is not over by any means. Lets not forget, OSU played UT closer than OU did and the game could have gone either way. Stillwater is a tough place to play, we Tech fans know that first hand. I hope everyone is ready for another exciting weekend of College Football. Happy Thanksgiving to all and Guns Up!
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Again why the UT people so bored? Anyway we know life is not fair but what a shame it will be to play a 7-4 Ole Miss or LSU in that dump the Cotton Bowl. That was a great bowl in 85 or 55 but now days it is second tier! Our team, fans, alums and University deserve better than what could happen. I know we have games left to shake this BCS mess up and still get what we deserve OU loss or not. Yet, there is a huge chance that we will be punished and not rewarded to what has been a great year and a rising program. We know every year that we will qualify for some bowl game and we must not take that for granted but at the same time we have earned and closed in the last few years on higher goals and we have done all we can do to reach those goals. Assuming a win over Baylor and all three teams are tied tell me what else do you have to do to get the BCS pay day? Move to the Pac 10 and get beat on the road to an unranked team and not win the conference outright? move to the Big 10 and not play in a championship game for your league because your league does not have one? Or better yet move to the Moutain West and go undeafted every year (except the one year TCU is loaded!)? It is just a shame and I hope the football gods will strike one last magic wand and put the Red where they deserve in the BCS bowl bonaza and not the ghetto bowl in fair park! Was it 1994 when Tech lost and everyone else lost and we still won the old SWC and the old school Cotton Bowl bid? We need some of that old school history to happen again to keep us out of that old school bowl! Go Tech!
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Since when do you have to go to college to be a fan. I guess if your not from Dallas your not a true Cowboy fan either. Do you hear how rediculous that sounds. I didn’t go to college and I am well in the six figure income owning my own repo business. Most college grads will never see that kind of money, so just cause you go to college doesn’t mean your special HOOK EM & GUNS UP
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OU is the best team in the country. They’d likely stomp Tx right now like they did us. The only thing that would be ridiculous would be UT playing for the NC! WE have every bit as much a right to be there as they. Well, except for huge $ and being ncaa darlings. OU, as much as I hate to say it, should be in the NC!
GO COWBOYS!!!
WRECK’EM!!!
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Billy, I don’t mind most t-shirt fans, its just the ones that act like a-holes that bother me. Ut and Tech both have some very loyal fans (season-ticket holders, donors, etc) that never attended the university. Whether people like them or not, t-shirt fans are a reality and here to stay.
Wreck ‘em Tech!
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Thats true, I don’t mind t-shirt fans either. The ones that start talking crap and downing the academics are the ones that have no business to talk.
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noel, yeah ou played lights out against us but the crowd was a huge factor. They had the crowd behind them the entire game. They truly looked like the best team in the country, but you could give the same arguement for tech against ok state who is a good team that we dominated on our home field. Don’t get me wrong ou is a great team, but it is a fact that home field advantage is in fact a BIG advantage. It seems like everyone has forgotten about osu, they are a very good team and will be tough on their home field just as any other team is.
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first thing people that spent money to get aneducation from one of these school paid for the right to be a fan. i treat a t-shirt fan as a second class to an alum.
a t-shirt fan with a stupid attitude and opinion is just another 10 percenter with nothing else to do………tech beats tu anywhere…….
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Those type will always be, they are at every college, they don’t really care about the game, they have other issues in their life that need to be dealt with, like growing up.
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Tech fans need to understand that losing late in the season is viewed worse than losing early. Right or wrong that is the method used by the
voters.
Anyone who watched the OU vs TTU game knows OU could have scored 100 if they wanted. Don’t forget the OU backup QB was in the game when OU attempted the 4th down run at the one yard line in an attempt to get over 70 points.
Maybe it was TTU being burned out, but either way you can not play every big game at home.
The TTU early non-conference schedule was horrible.
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Win vs. Baylor.
Win the next game (or 2!!!).
THEN
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THEN call it a good season.
It’s not over yet! We’ve still got games to play.
I agree with the earlier post that said the time for introspection (or reflection or whatever) has not yet come.
(Sorry about the double posting–must have hit ‘return’ while typing in the dark.)
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Still Proud RED RAIDER in Jacksonville!
Just hope the mighty sooners(:>) make it to the NC so the GATORS can bust their Boomer and rip their bloomers. Or maybe it will just be Choklahoma all over again and Big Game Bob looking for the pretzel before half time!
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No doubt the defense was not with it. They could not be as bad as they showed against OU. The offense was not with it either. OU disguised their coverage and jumped all the short stuff that Tech has relied on all year. The only time we scored is when we started throwing the ball down the field.
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No doubt the defense was not with it. They could not be as bad as they showed against OU. The offense was not with it either. OU disguised their coverage and jumped all the short stuff that Tech has relied on all year. The only time we scored is when we started throwing the ball down the field.
Look out for Baylor. Art Briles is a good coach.
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