Loss doesn’t take away from Tech’s achievements
NORMAN, Okla. – The final tally sheet told an ugly story Saturday night.
A Texas Tech team that had a chance to clinch the Big 12 South Division for the first time gave up 625 yards, with 299 coming on the ground. A defense known to rise up reliably at key times this season yielded seven touchdowns on Oklahoma’s eight red-zone visits. An offensive line that had been almost airtight, allowing only five sacks all season, gave up four. An offense averaging 48 points went 1-for-13 on third down.
There was nothing redeeming for the Red Raiders in a 65-21 loss against the Sooners that ended Tech’s hopes of playing for the BCS national championship. In fact, the game looked remarkably like the 60-15 mangling the Red Raiders endured here in 2002, when they came to Norman for a de-facto Big 12 South championship game.
That would suggest the Raiders haven’t made much progress in six years.
But that’s far from the truth.
Otherwise, Tech couldn’t have won 12 games in a row. If the Raiders are no better now than they were then, they wouldn’t have beaten three ranked teams in a row – including a No. 1 and another top-10 – to arrive at No. 2 in the rankings this deep into November. No, they’ve steadily improved the talent base and supplemented it with depth over the last decade. That’s part of the reason they’ve spent a month basking in the glow of a national spotlight.
Saturday night reinforced two truths in the Big 12: Home-field advantage is huge, something the Red Raiders already knew because it’s paid off for them in Lubbock. And Oklahoma employs it better than most. For two weeks, everyone heard that a Bob Stoops team almost never loses in Norman.
That holds true in September and October, and one of these years Tech might actually come here again in early fall. Last week, in asking a Tech coach why OU had handled Tech so easily several times this decade, besides the Sooners’ talent, he pointed to how late in the season the teams usually play. It was Tech’s regular-season finale six of the previous eight years and the next-to-last game another time.
The Sooners are usually playing for something more than just a W – to win the Big 12 South, to stay in the national title race, something substantial. On Saturday, it was senior night, all the more reason the Raiders would run into a buzzsaw.
The loss crushed Tech’s hopes of playing for a national championship, but there’s still a lot out there. Barring an upset this week, the Raiders are looking at an 11-1 season, which has happened only twice. They could do as Kansas did last year, possibly gain an at-large invitation to a BCS game without playing in the conference title game.
The worst that happened to the Raiders on Saturday is that they never did anything to stem the tide. It was 42-7 at halftime, and it didn’t get any better. That being the case, Tech stands to take a hard fall today in the polls – to somewhere between No. 7 and No. 9 – behind other one-loss teams such as Penn State and Southern Cal.
The Raiders would have given the voters a reason not to drop them so far had they mounted one of the comebacks that they’ve made so many times the last few years.
But they didn’t show something, not in the first two quarters or the last two, for the first time when it counted all season.
The fact that the Raiders finally came up empty in a game that counted, though, shouldn’t diminish the fact that they made their perfect season last as long as it did.
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Hey guys, Lets not forget the Texas Championship. We have already beaten A&M and UT’ next Baylor and we will have the bragging rights of the State of Texas. Lets win out the rest of the way and we’ll see what happens. “GUNS UP”
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Sorry TechSK, your season is basically over, no BCS bowl. Very unlikely that a&m will beat Texas, even on their best day and Texas having a bad day like they did against yall. Very unlikely that osu will beat ou, and a pretty good chance tech will lose to baylor. Texas headed for another national championship.
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HOOK EM HORNS!
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Tech fans should have been very suspicious after the Huskers took them to OT! The simple fact is OU is a much better team than Tech, end of story.
Still what should be a 11 win season is something to be proud of. A very good accomplishment in a the best college football conference in the country. I’d like to see a BCS bowl for Tech but I don’t think that’s going to happen with OU and Texas both getting them.
I can tell you Husker fans are looking forward to seeing Tech in Lincoln next season………… GBR
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OH PLEASE. SAME O SAME O TECH. HAD 2 WEEKS TO PREPARE AND CAME OUT FLAT AS APANCAKE. THERE WAS/IS NO EXCUSE FOR THIS LOSS. AS USUAL WE ARE A MEDIOCRE TEAM IN THE BIG 12. WE WILL ALWAYS SETTLE FOR THE TOLIET BOWLS…..
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Well…it is the morning after. The sun came up this morning, I am breathing (didn’t die from an alcoholic coma), but the memory of the Sooner raping here in Norman still lingers. The pounding in my head is an ever present reminder that the night was real and the dream is over.
However, I will have to say in all my years as a Tech fan, I had never been more excited than those moments before kickoff. Because in those moments there was the reality that Tech and a national title were within reach.
As we approached the stadium there was a buzz in the air by everyone. Stoops had called his fans out saying that they were fair weather fans and tonight was the night for THEM to come and play. As we walked inside the stadium and onto the field I knew then that we could be in serious trouble. The game hadn’t even started and it was so loud I couldn’t hear the person next to me.
The atmosphere was electric just like in the Texas game. But this time, it was not in our favor. Home field has played a HUGE role in the Big XII this season and tonight was no different. For those of you who have never been to Owen Field, the stands practically sit on the field as there is virtually no sideline it is so narrow. The players can hear ever insult hurled in their direction. Standing on the sidelines we saw fans throwing ice, tortillas, and other sorts of debris at our players as the player bench sits only about 4-5 feet from the wall that separates them from the fans. Ugly.
The Raiders did not look sharp. In fact, they just looked flat. The calmness and business-as-usual look that this team typically exhibits during the game, may have actually been that deer-caught-in-the-headlights look oft seen on a country road prior to being hit by a truck.
While Tech may have received a beating from OU, and their chances of a BCS at-large bid now gone, I am excited to have been a part of this season with Tech. It has been quite the ride. With a little help from OSU next week in Stillwater, Tech can work it’s way back into the BCS picture. But, I am not holding my breath. “Bedlam Week” next week in Oklahoma can get nasty, but after what I saw last night, OU is prepared to bring the hammer. They can taste it now.
As for me? I am going to take a couple of Tylenol, drink plenty of fluids, get some breakfast, and make the 6-hour trek back to good ole West Texas. Was it all worth it? Your damn skippy it was. Because for a moment the dream was still alive.
Wreck ‘Em Tech!!!
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Before I comment on the game i got to ask Sonny, shoudn’t UT be working on interception drills? Bhuaaa!!!!!
Geez men, If OSU beats OU and we take care of baylor we play for a title! Why the long faces?
Are tech fans surprised? OU came to play and when you have a challenged D and two weeks to get ready, this kind of stuff happens.
What will make my day is if OSU beats OU, Texas beats the aggies, and we beat Baylor and WE, yes we get to go to the big 12 championship.
And like it or not, you KNOW thats on the minds of sooner fans. In a week this game may not even matter!
We will be back, go tech!!
As
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We got a good ole butt stomping. We got beat everywhere but it would seem to me that the coaching preparation should have been a little different for this one. OU has stopped Techs offense in ,most of the previous games. They let us catch and then punish and tackle us. It would seem that going up field more from the outset would of loosen them up a bit. As far as our defense, they looked like the Dallas Cowboys defense. Using arm tackles and hit them but not wrap up. Our defense watched as one player hit and let the ball carrier go but were not prepared because they had given up on the play thinking the person was tackled. We saw players hit and lay on the grould watching them run up field. In all other games if we missed a tackle those players were scrambling to get up to make the tackle again. Ruffin, it’s time to get back to BASICS. Tackle, using basics and if they don’t , get someone who will. We may not be able to win with less talent but we can live with losing if that player or team gave 100% all the time.
Still behind ya after 25 years and still lovin Tech.
Wreck’ Em Tech Beat Baylor
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What can I say. Win the bully beats you up. Live to fight another day. In the mean time, there is school on Monday-Friday and a game on Saturday, until then live life to the fullest. Hope and Dream and thank the Good Lord for his Grace and Mercy. There are a boat load of things to be greatful of. 128 team or more and where we sit, the veiw is better. “I would if I could” “I could if I would” “I can’t so I an’t”. simply put. the past is the past the future is ahead and if you do not right the ship the the worst is yet to come. Arkansas Home Cookin. Guns UP#27
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By the way, Sonny above is TT all the way. The UT Jerk Sonny is not the the same person.
Wreck’Em Tech.
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Give credit where it is due.
One, Great job to Coach Stoops. Earned back his ‘Big Game Bob’ status and its no joke. Making the adjustments in the bye week paid off big time and he led his Sooners to an impressive victory.
Two, OU defense. Those guys are the ONLY ones who could hold our talented offense, rattle our QB, penetrate our line, and force big turnover plays. We are not used to having to punt.
Three, OU fans. I could not have been more wrong about home field advantage. They lived up to legend and made it very uncomfortable. You deserve the glory as well as the team.
FOUR, TEXAS TECH RED RAIDERS, I salute your sportsmanship. Look back at penalties. OU had alot of dirty and blatant personal fouls. (particularly the horse collar on Crabs’ first catch) They played well, but not with professionalism.
It was not a pretty first half that set the game in motion against us. We had penalties, but we took the game in stride. And though we did not actually show our true skills, we showed incredible humility and class in a devastating loss.
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I am embarrassed for you EMBARRASSED. Toilet Bowl?
2000 Galleryfurniture.com
2001 Alamo
2002 Tangerine
2003 Houston
2004 Holiday
2005 Cotton
2006 Insight
2007 Gator
It seems to me that Texas Tech’s bowl appearances have only been getting better over the years. It’s a shame that you cannot embrace the accomplishments of this program over these past years (and particularly this team this year). Instead, it would appear that you are nothing more than a poison to the program and the community–a shallow, fair weather fan who only wants to enjoy the benefits from the team’s successes, but does not want to bear the burden of its losses. It’s time to own up. Are you a fan, or just a parasite?
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If we take nothing more from this weekend lets take this:
The Raiders have given us a season unlike any that have been seen in Lubbock in any of our lifetimes. We have personally witnessed our beloved Raiders playing in the national spotlight week after week. We have seen the development of a program from a possible Alamo Bowl team in most good years to one that would be “disappointed” if it ends up in the Cotton or Holiday bowls, because despite this loss, it deserves better. We have witnessed perhaps one of the greatest football minds (Coach Mike Leach) in recent history develop a system that everyone else must duplicate. One so potent that make no mistake, will have several teams contacting our school for permission to speak with him at the conclusion of our season. We also witnessed what many many teams in college football already knew. Nobody wants to play in Norman, Oklahoma when a National Title is at stake. Most who go there, leave licking there wounds, make no mistake, their fans, as is the case with ours has been this season, are a powerful force to overcome at their home field. Nobody wants to give Bob Stoops two weeks to prepare for them. We got our tails kicked but we now have work to do. We still have a minimum of two games to play, Baylor and our bowl game. Plus we may still have a shot at the Big 12 Championship game if we beat Baylor and Oklahoma State beats Oklahoma. We could potentially finish our season 12-1 or 13-1. So, rathar than hang your head, lift it proudly, instead of being down on our Raiders, lets get behind them and support them as never before, and as for next year, lets support Tech in their efforts to keep Coach Leach at Texas Tech so we can have more of the success that he has spoiled us with since his arrival here. Thank you Red Raiders,
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We need OSU to Win and were in.
Tech is always near the goal but can’t punch it in.
1997 enter the game 3-0 in the south all we have to do is beat Texas we lose 38-32
1998 enter the 4-0 in the south all we have to do is beat OU we lose 32-21
2002 enter the game 4-0 in the south all we have to do is beat OU we lose 65-15
2008 enter the game 3-0 in the south all we have to do is beat OU we lose 65-21
The above games give us the South Championship if we win. The First two are Spike Dyke teams. The next two are MIke Leach teams. We ha ve a history of losing the big game to win the south.
Go Raiders Beat Baylor
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2000 Galleryfurniture.com
2001 Alamo
2002 Tangerine
2003 Houston
2004 Holiday
2005 Cotton
2006 Insight
2007 Gator
all are 2nd tier bowls……………redraiderz.
Better no, DO YOU SEE A PATTERN HERE???????
1997 enter the game 3-0 in the south all we have to do is beat Texas we lose 38-32
1998 enter the 4-0 in the south all we have to do is beat OU we lose 32-21
2002 enter the game 4-0 in the south all we have to do is beat OU we lose 65-15
2008 enter the game 3-0 in the south all we have to do is beat OU we lose 65-21.
WE HAVE ALWAYS CHOKED ON THE BIG GAME……………
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I find it funny that Tech fans and Texas fans will be rooting for OKie state next weekend.
Tech will be rooting for Okie state so that Tech can represent the big 12 south and get into the big 12 championship game and Texas will be rooting for Okie state so that they can have a clear shot to play in the National champioinship game against Alabama or Florida
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Hello? Any techsters out there? Not that it will ever happen again but it’s best to keep your mouth shut until you win something.
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OUCH We got smacked! I think Tech believed their own press. Three weeks ago before the UT game I said we were over rated. We made the case for thatr argument last night. I would rather a Texas team go to BIG 12 championship than OU. No sour grapes. That was ugly and we couldn’t walk that talk.
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I guess a bunch of screaming rednecks can impact the outcome of a game. Really, Texas should be the outright Big 12 champ if there was such a thing. They’ve already beaten the two best teams (Mizzou and Ou) convincingly
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To the adminstration at Texas Tech.
From 1970-1974 Coach Carlen built a dynasty in West Texas only to see him leave for South Carolina. Sloan won with his recruits in 1975 and 1976.
Do not let history repeat itself. If we had kept Carlen we would have been a National Power right now. Please do not let Leach leave. With the attention we are receiving we will get the recruits.
We need Linebackers and Big Safties on Defense make sure Leach goes after them because next year we will be better than this year and we have the press Highschool athletes want.
SIgn Leach and lets recruit like crazy. Everything is in place for a great recruiting class!
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I am so angry right now. Why does Tech always fall short?
Dammit, I just want to hit something.
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Tech was in National Spotlight for many weeks and put a Dream in all of us from West Texas. Even this ugly game can not take the Dream away. We played a # 19, a # 1, a # 8 and a # 5 in a row. ( W 3 – L 1 ) We were an under dog in each game except for being a 3 pt favorite over OK St which we beat by 36. Two pt under dog to Kansas ( 19 ) on the road which we beat by 44. Beating # 1 TX by an unbelievable 1 minute 29 second drive for a TD. OK came out fighting mad. The 4 personal fouls by OK showed it. We are 10-1 and tied with OK, and TX ( tie breaker over TX ) with the best record in Big 12 which is the best conference this year. TECH played their hearts out and we still have a chance to win Big 12. OK has to beat OK St on the road. We already beat OK State. OK State is fast like OK, so we will see if OK can get up again. OK is a very Big Program. They usually get many of the best TX players. We have a some walkons like the Kicker Matt Williams who won a kicking contest ( rent free ) at half time by kicking a 30 yard field goal. His mom called him as he was walking off the field to congratulate him. He told her he would have to call her back because the TECH coach wanted to talk with him. He is now perfect in extra pts and 2 of 3 on field goals. Wes Welker, now playing for the Patriots, from OK but just to small ( like Eric) to play for the OK Sooners. He set many records for Tech, Big 12 and set National record for punt run backs for TD. TECH will take these guys. Humbled but The Dream is still alive ! Proud of the Raiders and TECH. We have a great group of Alumni here in DC and have enjoyed watching on prime time TV.
WRECK EM TECH
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Amy – you didnt beat OU convincingly. We led that game until late in the fourth quarter – we lost our middle linebacker – but no excuses – we lost. However, if anybody had to choose between who the best team was OU or Texas – who would most people choose? Thats right – The Sooners. Tech – you have a good team – go kick Baylor’s butt and when the Texas fans get on here – keep reminding them who won the game. They keep saying that they dropped an interception – fact of the matter was Tech dominated that game – many more yards – and in the end we all need breaks and Tech delivered – last night’s game was just MEN vs boys – when OU comes to play – they are the best team in the country. Now we need to take care of business next week in Stillwater.
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HAHA. You suck!
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Yeah Tom, your right, the whole country wants to see Oklahoma choke in another bowl game. LMAO
Bottom line is we beat you, no tricks, no fake punts, no gimicks, just good ole plain smash mouth football.
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Poor Amy. It hurts doesn’t it?
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this loss couldn’t have happened to a “nicer” bunch–how much property destruction did the uncivilized Tech fans cause this time?
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Amy you did beat us. No excuses. Tech beat you – no excuses. We absolutely destroyed Tech last night – no excuses. So who goes on to play? Lot of football left – but if we beat OSU at Stillwater – I think we will get in. Is that fair to Texas or Tech? No. As much as I hate Texas – you did beat us. As Stoops said – you can make an argument for and against all one loss teams. If you put Texas ahead of OU – you have to put Tech in front of Texas. If you go bythe eyeball test and who is the best team – and who has the best loss – you have to put OU up there. Two words – play “off”!
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No Patrick it doesn’t hurt because as you saw last night, there is justice in the football world. Tech was overrated and talked a lot of trash in doing so in the last month.
OU is talking trash now, and I believe that the more trash you talk, eventually it will come back and bite you in the ass. Just ask Tech.
OU can go play in the National championship game or a BCS game , and guess what? OU will lose to whomever it plays.
Texas will play in the National championship game or a BCS game and God willing it will win.
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We did, Texas Queen. WE BEAT YOU!!!!!
Good Job TT. I’m proud of the great season you have had!
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If we play like we did last night – there wont be anybody beating us.
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Amy, what a dumb assumption. You are dumb. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
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So we’re to assume that OU will win a bowl game, as it has done so in the last 4 years?
LMAO
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Patrick it is dumb to assume that OU will win it’s next bowl game.
The best bowl game I personally enjoyed was the Fiesta Bowl a couple of years back. Boise State?
LOL
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Ou plays OSU in Stillwater. OSU has two weeks to prepare for OU and will have this game film as well. If OSU plays like they did against UT. OSU wins! OSU must do what Tech did not. GO LONG ON OU like TEXAS did. Every pass we threw down fileld we scored. OU shut everything underneath down. Leach was out coached again.
OU if you win out sorry, but Texas should represent the South with their win over you, OSU, MIzz, Kansas, they have had a tougher schedule than you.
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No surprise here. Sure, Tech won the Texas game but anyone who doubts the Jones (home) field advantage just does not get it. Tech fans are the proverbial twelth man.
Go Horns…..
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This year forget the North South Playoffs and put the two best Big 12 teams, Texas and Oklahoma to settle who’s best
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if OU loses, an irrelevant Tech team plays an irrelevant Missouri team in the Big 12 Champ game.
This will move Texas up in the polls into the number 2 slot.
Prior to last night, we would not have expected Tech to be irrelevant with 1 loss. However, the Sooners made them completely and totally irrelevant. The “human” polls are going to drop them like an aggie head football coach.
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Nice beatdown Tech! Home field advantage is everything in the Big 12. You can’t beat Texas or OU in Austin or Norman. Texas played its worst game in years and still almost beat you in Lubbock. OU did everything but steal your women and slash the tires on the team bus.
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It’s this simple:
Texas beats A&M.
OSU beats Oklahoma.
Tech beats Baylor.
OSU 10 – 2 / Oklahoma 10 – 2.
OSU 3rd in South via head to head win vs. Oklahoma.
Tech 11 – 1 / Texas 11 – 1.
Tech 1st in south via head to head win vs. Texas.
Tech plays Missouri in BIG 12 Championship.
Tech beats Missouri and is in a BCS bowl.
Oklahoma is left out of the party.
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We Shall Prevail……. This was a good wake up call and go’s to show that the best of the best will eventually lose a fight but its about getting over it like right now and moving on and going on to punch baylor in the teeth and except what ever comes our way………Never Die Keep Fighting….. Tech all tha Way……
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Can you believe this OU fans already have beaten OSU and they haven’t even played the game yet. Talk about cocky!
OSU is a very good team and have home field adavantage. As Stoops gave crap to his fans to come alive so will the chant be from Gundy to the OSU fans.
OU could be going to the Cotton Bowl with a 10-2 record. Texas went 3-1 against the gaunlet, Tech went 3-1, OSU is 1-2 against it and OU is 2-1 so far. GO OSU beat OU
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You guys are so hilarious. OU can’t get beat by OSU. And when OU wins i’ll be back to rub it in ya’lls faces about how we’re at the Big 12 Championship that you COULD’VE been in. Tech just shows how bad they’ll sluff when it comes to the end of the season.
If baylor beats you guys, you’ll never hear the end of it from me. Watch out though, b/c you play at Baylor, and Baylor for once is pumped.
To be honest I actually like Tech more than the other texas teams. I was rooting for ya against Texas, but now i’m against ya hahaha. Better luck next year huh? Ahh maybe not..
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Isn’t it interesting how the Orange Cows like to talk about Tech losing in Norman? When is the last time the Orange Cows shoed any guts and went to Norman and played a game? I think it was during the Eisenhower years. Don’t give me any of that “politcal” stuff for why you play in Dallas. Get some courage and go play in Norman and let us know how you like it.
Yep. We got beat. Not much else can be said. OU was better in every aspect of the game last night.
Since some of the fans of the Orange Cow like to talk about bowls and their tiers, at least Tech has a longer streak of consecutive trips to Bowl games than both TU and OU.
How funny will it be if Okie State beats OU and Tech goes to the BIG 12 championship? I guess the Orange Cows will have to watch us on television and then watch us go to a BCS game.
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Hey Arkansas Raider, I sure do hope that Okie State does beat OU so Tech can go to the big 12 championship game and Texas can go to the National Championship Game.
Tech is dropping way low in the BCS standings after the ass kicking it got last night, and I do mean good old ass kicking.
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Clint,
You might want to get your facts right before you go spewing off at the mouth. TTU plays Baylor at home and after all the conversations above about home field advantage…draw your own conclusions on how that one might turn out. It also applies to OSU/OU…..
We got beat last night – BAD – but I am totally with Pete above…OU played dirty ball and don’t forget, they have a penchant for choking in big games. It seems to me that ALL they have is home field advantage. It will be satisfying to watch them come up short for the third time against someone in the Fiesta Bowl as Texas will be a much better choice for a National Title game, (although it pains me to say that…… at least they will have a chance to win)
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AND WIN WE WILL.
TEXAS LONGHORNS NATIONAL CHAMPIONS 2008
Put that in your book.
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hook Didn’t you take loss in Lubbock well? C’mon or does your big sister always fight your fights, she’s just gotta be tougher than you and your thin skinned narrow mindedness. Goin bowlin has it’s benefits, no matter where it is. We will just keep pluggin away, just keep your eyes west. We don’t want to surprise you. By the way your sister called and it’s time for your changing wah wah
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Hook Em Horns –
Very Gentlemanly of you….Don’t hear much but Trash Talkin coming from you right now…probably why you guys came in and overlooked us – guess you won’t be able to do that again, will you? We won against you, fair and square – even your refs couldn’t help you out this year. Try playing in Norman for once and we will see how you feel….
Seems to me that we will probably end the season with the EXACT same record as you, so how – really – does that make us garbage?
You might get there, but I am not sure you can win. Unlike you, though, us TECH fans will be glad a team from Texas instead of Oklahoma will be representing our conference.
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Another thing to think about, if OU does get the chance to play in a national title game, they should be thanking us Raiders for doing what they couldn’t seem to do – beat the #1 ranked Longhorns.
It is impossible for me to understand TTU can be so discounted when all 3 of us will potentially end the seasons with the EXACT same records – each having beaten one of the others???? Has no one any respect?
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by the way, hook em horns, kings should always be wary of assasination….
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Yes we all know how hard it is to win in Norman Okla. But we have had the best season in a very long time and only one loss. God Bless the Red Raiders Football for all there hard work and bringing us so much joy in watching it. God Bless Coach Leach Go Tech Guns Up
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“DEFEFENSE IS THE KEY”
OU played a tough defense game and my hats off to them. NO excuses…it wasn’t dirty play…it wasn’t the refs. What some people say is dirty is good hard nose football.
It is a good defense that wins championships. Tech doesn’t have a defense! I know everyone says look at the last two game. Tech gets up for UT and OSU. They probably played a bit over their heads. I am not saying Tech doesn’t have the talent. They don’t have a good enough defensive coordinator. Not one single blitz the whole game. No pressure on Bradford. They knew how good of a QB he was and still let him pick apart the Tech defense. After the half…did Tech make any adjustments? None! All the Tech coaches say is tackle better and execute better. That is not making adjustments.
I have been saying for years as well as most sports writers…until Tech gets a defense…they will never compete for a title. This year may have seemed like competing…but a UT’s dropped interception and a possible loss at Nebraska…this easily could have been a 7-4 team. Defense is the key and I guess we shall just sit back and see how many more years before Tech gets a quality defensive staff in Lubbock to support one of the top offenses in the nation.
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Hey Hook,
Shut your piehole you A-hole! You are why most people hate UT. The only reason the school you root for won the title was VY. They aren’t winning crap this year. They wont beat missou in Kansas if ut is lucky enough to make it because it will be a home game for them. Theres no way texas will beat them 2 times. Tech, Ou & UT all have 1 loss. We beat texas this year, texas beat ou, ou beat tech. Get over it you idiot. Why dont you worry about beating aggy because you cant seem to do that you moron!
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WAH! WAH! WAH! texas tech trash talkers got put in their place, the toilet bowl LMAO. People hate Texas cause we kick everbody’s ass most of the time and go to a bcs bowl almost every year something you scrub raiders no nothing about. Now your excuse is cause you played in Norman, yea tech beat Texas cause we played in Lubbock. Raiders are a bunch of pussies and your fans are a bunch of trash talikin idiots that really thought they were somebody. Yall are a joke to the big 12 and Carter wears mascara and looks like a fag. Yall just suck.
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Those who choose to use foul language and jump on others when they are down are not only showing their IQ and their lack of decency , but are also of all people the most to be pitied. We do not care what Texas does at A&M. If OSU beats OU and we beat Baylor, we are in the Big 12 Championship game. I doubt that will happen. We will probably end up in the Cotton Bowl, a very nice reward for our great team. Not what we were wishing for the last few weeks. But really, if you had been told in August that we would be 11-1 at the end of the regular season, would you have taken it? YES! Ending the season in a tie with OU and UT is nothing to be ashamed of and will be a major help in recruiting in the future. GO RAIDERS! WRECK ‘EM, TECH! GUNS UP!!
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No wonder UT anf OU players don’t associate themselves with their fans.
The players are much more respectful, and much more successful than their fan posters on this site.
I have a tremendous ammount of respect for the OU program after their solid effort against Tech.
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Finally, someone (Karl) makes a sensible comment after all the OU & UT trash talk. I agree completely, Karl. Go, Cowboys! I would love to see this Red Raider team in a bowl game!
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Hey dumbass Hook,
If your going to make an argument why dont you get your facts straight you fool.Texas has gone to 2 bcs games 2005 & 2006 and like i said it was with VY. If you havent noticed he is gone and failing miserably in the NFL., 50 million $$$$ bust. You probably didnt go to school there, just a typical bandwagoning obnoxious fan.
So to reply to your idiotic statement that “ut goes to a bcs almost every year”…you would be foolish again. Let me help you count this high 1….2. The bcs started 10 years ago in the 98-99 season. You have been there 2 times and that is not ALMOST every year! My 2 year old is smarter than you.
And let me help you out with this. The leaders in the big-12 south all have 10-1 records.Ut barely beat osu, we destroyed them and beat your ass too.
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Hurts don’t it Bill? Yall should be used to it be now, bunch of pethetic losers. Come Monday when the polls are out will tell all. I expect will be like 8 or 10 LMAO. Raiders suck. always have always will end of story. Yall are old news now. I’d much rather be dumbass hook going to a BCS bowl game then a lame ass faggot raider. Buck Fill, your the idiot.
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You had to figure the longhor cockroaches would come out after this. After all, Ou did what their team could not…beat Tech! Go ahead get your licks in now while we’re down, it won’t be for long. This season is far from over! Last time I checked we’re still tied for 1st place! Beat Baylor!
Wreck ‘em Tech!
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My what a sad life you must live, hookemhors. It takes quite a man to talk such trash from the safety of your computer keyboard!
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Hey hookemhors, don’t forget…. 39-33!!! hehehehehheheee
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Forgot that last night watching a bunch of fags getting their asses handed to them on national television, and laughing my ass off, hehehehehehe, now that was funny,I was hurtin so bad from laughing last night, my stomach is sore today. tech will never be in a BCS bowl, face it losers, you just can’t touch the kings of the big 12 Texas and ou. I bet Baylor will whip your scrub asses
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Aww, poor hookemhors, I would argue with you. It was more fun watching Ut lose on national television! And don’t count your chickens just yet mr. internet tough guy. Still a 3-way tie for first place. Go Aggies, make it 3 years in a row!! hehehehheh
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HOOK EM HORNS, Be careful what you ask for. OU will leapfrog the shorthorns this week in the BCS rankings. Don’t believe ne just wait till 7:30 tonight. By an even bigger margin next week should they beat OSU. It won’t matter if you beat A & M 99-0. Now should OSU win next week, the pecking order moves Tech to the front of the line and maybe you get the 2nd BCS invite.
National championship? Maybe national champions of flunkies, DWI’S, assualts, thefts, and I forgot , who was that player that played for UT that used another identity? Keep Austin weird.
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What do you call 3 longhors in the back of a police car? A huddle!
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Hookem whores you have to pitty this fella…….. Hands down ut should be in a National Championship every year but, there not thats all there is to it they might as will be 0-12 every yr just as well……..ohh yea i guess if leach offered scholorships to guys who have Suicidal tendencies and to pot head smokers that can run a 4.3 in a 40 all around wed compete for a national championship too…..Its about being Class act on and off the field…..its shallow place for peeps in austin……….
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How do you spell Choked Mike 1 ?
R E D R A I D E R S
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Hey Joe, weren’t you counting your Chickens the last two weeks.
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Hook em , Next time you write something please use spellcheck.. Your spelling is PATHETIC. Then again you probably didn’t even go to ACC.
Gig em Aggies!
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Tech is 7th in AP poll, good enough for BCS bowl. And, Okie State is going to beat Oklahoma. Tech just needs to take care of Baylor.
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Hook,
Doesn’t look like even your own clones like you on here. Zero support, zero facts that are correct, just bs…….. Loser! Go back to your trailer and put on your pumpkin orange t-shirt and do us all a favor…….go away.
By the way, in college you are taught to support statements with facts, not lies and bs. Maybe one day when you learn how to use your brain you might figure that out.
In most colleges there are usually 2-5% of their supporters that make other fans hate their schools……..you are definately in that category.
Hook might be in jr high possibly high school
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Love ya’ Tech, but when you get beat down like that you find out what kind of real stuff you’re made of going forward… you’re good enough to play with anyone but came out scared, talking classless trash, and your fears showed up like the “little brother” in a backyard pickup game. Stop the trash talk and get work done on the field… and coach Leach, what are you thinking? Sorry, but plenty of offers are probably off the table for such mistaken coaching calls…. 4th and going on your own end of the field? Sorry to say it, but it showed you had no confidence in your D stopping anyone. It’s a shame to have given fuel to the speach of fools thinking TTU is a mediocre team, but to the victor goes the spoils… Texas, you might just back into another BCS bid like you dd the year Tech beat #4 Cal down for you in the Holiday bowl… you still have to beat A&M which TTU hasn’t lost to in 4 years now… and OU let’s see how you do on the road in Stillwater before you get your one loss championship bid… Florida awaits one of you, you’d better be representing the Big 12 in style. OU your bowl record is less than stellar lately, so you’d best be preparing for something besides a Norman night game. With this message I close out a disappointing weekend, but… time to get back to work in the REAL world where college football doesn’t pay the bills.
out!
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Another post another wrong fact from redneck hookem. Tech is #7 in the bcs as well.
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The initial news from the BCS standings looked good for Texas. The long-range forecast, however, favors Oklahoma.
The Longhorns stayed ahead of the Sooners on Sunday — but not by much — and moved into the coveted second spot in the standings, thanks to a better computer rating.
Alabama remained on top of the standings, a comfortable No. 1 in both the USA Today coaches’ poll and Harris poll, and tops according to the computers.
Texas is close behind Oklahoma in both polls, but has the second-best computer rating. The Longhorns’ BCS average is .9209.
Oklahoma is at .9125. But the Sooners are at Oklahoma State (9-2) on Saturday and should get a boost if they emerge with a win.
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Shut up silly faggot Bill
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Wreck ‘Em Tech!!!!!!!
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DUDE…..Someone needs to check out OU’s facilities for wire taping or radio communication interceptors…..OU knew our plays better than we did!!!!!!! I am igniting the conspiracy theorist fire…….OK on a serious note we got our butts handed to us. I think the team had too much time to think about how good they are and it blew up in their faces as soon as they stepped on the field. No Tech team has ever been ranked number 2 in the country and it showed. Tech didn’t know how to “act like they have been there before.” BUT it is priceless experience for a team to have National Title hopes ripped out of there hands. I think when this happens to a team it makes them hungrier than ever. The next golden opportunity Tech has, the outcome should be different because “We HAVE been their before.” The guys were nervous and when something negative happened it simply snow balled. .All we can do now is learn from it and move on…..lets beat Baylor and hope OKIE STATE can pull it out against OU. If OK ST can’t do it, the worst we can do is Cotton Bowl or Holiday Bowl (not bad bowl games). As much as I loved the Dykes era, this beats the hell out of the bowls Tech went to then. We are on the right track…..Tech Fans keep your heads up……We are 10-1…..Soon to be 11-1………And there are many more great things to come.
RAIDER POWER
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As much as I love those Raiders… and am saddened for a poor showing last night, there is a larger looming point here…. it’s Big12 South vs the SEC to me, we have to bring the glass football home to THIS conference. I pray the strongest and fittest team will be there against Florida, who I feel will beat Alabama down in the SEC champ game… then we have to beat Alabama in the #3 vs. #4 game and give this conference some respect back… we could even have a #5 vs #6 matchup for 3 Big 12 spot wins in bowls…. so in the name of all that is pure for the Big 12, let’s all get our work done here and prove out some conference superiority this year! Great year Tech…. git er dun now!
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Why don’t you UT &ou fans find your own blogs. All you do is talk trash. It doen’t make sense. Tech has the same record as you now and are tied for first. Your teams haven’t achieved anything different. The BCS is so screwed up.
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Is anyone other than me offended by the posts from hookemhorns? If you can’t use any better language or make any better sense, post on your own site.
The truth is – no matter how bad TTU got beat – is that we are ALL tied for 1st place in this conference.
To the team – hold your heads high and come in with guns blazin’ this weekend against Baylor. We can make it 11-1 and we aren’t out of it yet! I have faith….
Hit ‘em, Wreck ‘em Tech! Winning in any bowl is better than getting smacked down in the Fiesta Bowl 2 years running….
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Oh and by the way, hook em – being the big football fan you are and all, one should know the polls come out on Sunday – not Monday. Even this GIRL knows that!
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thats right…we are STILL tied for FIRST PLACE!! not a bad place to be Red Raider Nation. Shake off the Norman dust and get back to work.
We were at the game and we knew we were gonna be in for it when the cheerleaders ran out with our flags misspelling TECH (TCEH)!
On the way up to OK, we got many guns up from OSU fans. Let’s hope they put one on ‘em in Stillwater.
I do have to say that all of the OU fans that we encountered were very gracious and welcomed us to Norman. Unlike the trolls on this blog who need to crawl back underneath the rock they came from.
GUNS UP BOYS – Beat them Bears!!!!
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Hookem horns get on your own blog you t-shirt fan
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Shut up James, your team finally got a dose of reality.
Tech, same ole team.
Not even a one year wonder, more like a three week sorry ass team.
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Texas Queen, i’m sure you are a Drag Queen. Scram off our sites and go get a life.
WRECK ‘EM TECH!!!!!!!!!!
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Yes, we did get a dose of reality, but who delivered yours? Oh that’s right – TTU! Why is it that everyone from “those other teams” are so up in arms about little ole us? The sellout crowd in Norman was helped along by Tech fans – I am disappointed it didn’t turn out better but I think I must say it again – WE ARE ALL TIED! It’s obvious the “kings” don’t like to share – just like royalty to be petulant and spoiled instead of welcoming some healthy competition.
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tx queen is hookem with different name. Hookem and queen make no sense @ all. Lay down the whiskey bottle and call it a weekend. Your team that you didn’t go to school @ did not play this weekend so shut up. We beat you! Scoreboard !!!!!
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Oh how sad, bunch of sore losers, too bad their going to a second tier bowl game that no one is going to watch.
Oh well, that’s what happens when your a second rate/class school.
LMAO
What an ass whoopin, wow.
Couldn’t of happened to a better team.
LMAO
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For all the OU, TEXAS and A&M fans that talk trash and put TECH down, I’d like for you to consider something. Every year, those three schools get better recruits than Tech (and with Texas and Oklahoma, the difference in recruiting classes is dramatic). So, for Tech to accomplish what they already have this season, I think it’s spectacular. Because of this, I’m not disappointed at all with what has happened so far. Yes, the landslide loss to Oklahoma hurts, but consider the talent difference. I hope Mike Leach stays at Tech for a long time and he is starting to get better recruits. GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!
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We Red Raiders flat out got it handed to us in Norman. There’s simply no other way to put it. Congrats to the Sooners.
Now let’s look at the current situation. Whether you think Tech deserved the number 2 ranking it had or not, they had it. OU dismantled the #2 team in the country (#1 according to the computers). I don’t see how anyone can put Texas above OU in the rankings after that game. Sure, the ‘Horns beat the Sooners, but more recently, Tech beat the ‘Horns. If OU beats OSU (a team Texas barely survived against in Austin) in Stillwater, it would be an absolute crime if they are cheated out of a chance to play in the Big 12 title game and ultimately the BCS championship. As a Raider fan, I certainly hope the Cowboys can pull off the upset, but I just don’t see it happening.
Say what you want all you UT fans, but OU clearly has the better team, no matter what happened in Dallas in early October. You can consider yourselves extremely lucky if the Sooners win Saturday and you somehow stay ahead of them in the BCS standings and get to play in Kansas City.
Keep your heads up, Raider fans. It’s been a fun ride, and there’s still a glimmer of hope. Remember, we thought it was over when we missed the extra point in OT against Nebraska. Then we thought it was over when the UT safety had the ball tipped right to him on the final drive. The OU-OSU game still has to be played, and it’s usually not a cakewalk for the Sooners in that game.
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horn fans…take it easy guys…i’m a horn fan myself.
regardless, you guys played very very very good this year. Avoid the media for now because they tend to love you when you win and forget you when you lose. We know how that feels.
Anyways, keep your guns up. You have established a good i mean a very good team -better than LSU, Florida, even bama…and texas -ouch…lol. I hope you will continue the trend. We don’t mind to add Tech as one of our regular rivals. You gave my team a whole lot of headaches and its funny. Tech really stepped it up leaving our our other rival out of contention. However, we will have exchanged trash talks because you guys are now playing legitimately with the big guys. The nation loves you. I hope they will never forget.
To all horns…take it easy guys. Stay cool. Represent.
Keep ur guns up raiders and let that black blood flow.
Hook ‘em horns. Wreck ‘em tech and boom that sooner wagon outta here!
jp-
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Texas Tech on my mind and in my heart for more than 55 years and I have never lost my love and intensity for the RR’s. Recalling a 49-7 loss to UT way back in the mid 60’s, Darrel Royal said, “They are not that bad.” Texas was always good in those days and TT, well, they were not that good, either.
Sat. nite’s beating by OU is very similar EXCEPT TT is far better than that score. No excuses, we simply were badly beaten. Tech will be back next year IN LUBBOCK. Will that make a difference? Most likely.
TT has UT’s number now and I am thinking that whether or not we play in Ausitn will no longer matter. The Raiders will be their thorn in their side from now on. The Raiders belong in the upper tier of the Big 12 and UT cannot handle that.
TT will have many more one-loss records and fewer 3 or 4 loss records from now on. Tech has arrived……Guns Up!!!
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I give credit to OU, they deserve their glory despite the penalties and rowdy relentless manners, those don’t show on the scoreboard.
As for BCS, I think OU and UT are rightfully above Tech.
OU lost in a close game and won big in another.
UT played two close games and lost one of them.
Tech won a close game and lost big.
So OU deserves a shot at NC
However, BCS isn’t fair.
If OU loses, UT wins.
If UT loses, OU wins.
Both have to lose for Tech to win, unless OU loses and polls pick Tech.
GUNS UP, HEADS UP RAIDERS
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Texas Queen, Tech still be Texas so you have no room to talk you t-shirt fan.
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Texas Queen, Tech still beat Texas so you have no room to talk
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All you Long Horn & OU fans can kiss it! One off game and you dorks go on & on about such stupid stuff. Well, Lets look at reality; OU lost to Texas, and Texas lost to Tech… hmmm and just because of this game everybody thinks OU is better than Tech… The Red Raider players have been built, not bought!!!! THAT ALONE SAYS IT ALL!!!! Tech is by no means done…AND… the season isnt over yet!
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Texas Queen yes OU did rip us a new one but, you need to stop being a sore loser about the texas loss to tech. If you indeed are a longghorn fan. All 3 teams are now tied for first place and Tech got caught off guard at the end of this diffcult schedule.
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Hello, have you tech fans seen the BCS ratings? It’s pretty much over for you guys, the best you will do under the right circumstances is move up to the # 5 spot (maybe)
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Yeah I have seen them and I am not surprised at what they are. The only ranking in the BCS I do not agree with is Utah being ranked ahead of us.
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Hmm. Yeah Billy, we watch the news
We don’t give up and abandon our team, just like you wouldn’t
I hope Tech has a chance to bounce back, but I doubt it. The polls never favored Tech, not even vs Kansas in October.
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James, I would have to agree with you on that one. I personally would like to see tech win the big 12 which would allow Texas to go to the NC, and win there. I would love to see ou completely out of the picture and two Texas teams at the top. HOOK EM
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Tech just didnt show up to Norman to play. But the y shouldnt leave their heads down, cuz they still can be in the big 12 ship game by the loss of ou which could happen since theyre not in Norman. And loss of Texas because A&M always give them a good match no matter how bad their season is. They still got a chance. I have faith in them.
WRECK ‘EM TECH
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Hey, this year was a huge success and if the Big 12 south wasn’t all so good among the 4 teams ranked things may be different for Tech. But lets not forget OU was much better and should go on to the NC. Ut has no bragging rights. Tech beat them and OU’s loss was fluke. Tech has had a great season and look where the program is headed. All the national attention was on Tech this year. Recruiting and facilities will only get better. Just be happy your not Texas A&M.
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Paul, We could also say that tech beatin Texas was a fluke. We beat ou fair and square. tech beat Texas fair and square. ou is not that good, home field advantage, and more importantly, tech just didn’t show up, ou got the jump on tech and tech just layed down.
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It is funny that living in Austin that most of my Orange-blood friends have been very honest. Tech dominated Texas in every aspect of the game. As an observer I will say that Texas definitively BEAT OU, As a Red Raider Tech was pummelled by OU. For me the NC was never a goal for this team. I am thrilled there is still the posibility, but winning the Big 12 South and a BCS bowl game. These are still possbile. This is a very strong Tech team, and these guys will continue to impress the football world. I think what speaks most about this season is the number of non-Raiders posting comments. That means we have gotten under their skin and now let this just continue.
Wreck ‘em Tech
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Well said Adam.
HOOK EM
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Here is a perspective on the Big 12 south by an ESPN analyst.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/notebook?page=notebook/onthemark1124
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Well as a career military guy from Amarillo living in Chicago, I have not been this excited in a long time to watch my boys try the impossilbe. And yes they did take a butt kickin. Who hasn’t. There is only one team setting at #1 who is undefeated and it won’t last long when Florida gets a hold of them. Tech has made a great jump to get national recogntion this year which will only improve Tech’s recruiting. And that can only mean better players for Tech and better seasons for years to come. It has been fun and I look forward to this Saturday as well when Tech puts a little hurtin on Baylor. Go Tech!
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osu beat ou are u kiddin me? after what i saw saturday night aint nobody going to beat ou. by the wat i think tech had as many personal fouls as ou did.
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Why are UT people on here I never understand? I do not waste my time on UT sites trying to push Tech I have better things to do but whatever. The orange bloods can cry about a missed int and how they lost in the last second but while we are on the subject of what happened and the ifs and buts of that night, that game never ever comes down to any late heroics or lack there of if not for that punt return earlier in the game.
If you watched the damn game not 1 but 2 clear blocks in the back and another possible one on the Horns punt return for a TD. One official who was actually watching but had a bad view had the guts to make the call but they pulled the flag as his angle was bad. With all the TV cameras it was clear as day that those two illegal blocks happened. That TD saved their tails as without it they were dead in the water as Tech was burying them on Defense. The point is the Raiders won the game even despite that if and but and for every if and but you always can drag up another if and but. Yes, it was an exciting finish and yes UT blew an int, but that game is a 4 touchdown game that UT never comes back from if not for that int. If memory serves it made it 22-6 and if all holds to form then at 22-0 in third and Tech’s offense doing what it wants this conversation is not happening!
UT beat OU in Dallas Tech had no such luck in Norman and that if and but should put the Raiders on equal if not ahead of UT instead Tech will be punished for loosing late and the reward is the same neutral stadium that UT beat OU Dallas. If and but Texas is not better than Tech in 08 no matter which if and but you take! Tech gets punished because we are the last to post a L that is a shame. Remind me how USC and Florida get beat to unranked teams and are not punished as bad? The system is bad but fact remains OU deserves to be #2 and Tech deserves a better fate. If and buts be damned!
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What I am trying to figure out is this… 10-1 (Texas, OU, Tech) or possibly 11-1 (same folk) … Did I fall asleep and some how Tech has only one season of this? I read the blogs and they read like an Obit… Seriously, this should be a Birth announcement or at least an anniversary! Our recruitment roster reads like a 4 star restaurant of players, our “Backup” QB plays like Farve and we morn our perfect season as if it would be our last. Our team has consistently improved in play and consistency. What other college has enjoyed bowl games every year? Heck, we say it as an after thought now, “We will play Baylor and then our bowl game”. I MAY be a bit blind in my understanding, but age acquires wisdom, knowledge, and in the cases of Universities – ALUM. So, TECH (long may she reign) is a glorious 85 years old, OU – 33 years OLDER, A&M 47, and the grand old lady UT 84 years our Senior. Lubbock has changed just in the last decade from when I was there, she has had a face lift and has seen growth within the Academic world – Education, Architecture, Engineering, Law and Medicine are all highly classed in Lubbock. SO, Tech Alum, and all you who really don’t have a vote listen to our battle cry – FROM HERE IT’S POSSIBLE! We will learn from our elders mistakes, and we will grow and become better. Clear a place at the Big Boy table, Tech is taking a seat. – GUNS UP BABY!!!
(Currently an OSU and A&M Fan until after this weekend)
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Wins for OU and UT are just more numbers in a column. The Tech victory over Texas was a game for the ages. Long after OU has forgotten its win over TT folks in Lubbock (and beyond) will still say things like “I was there!” and “Remember back in ‘08?” Savor this, you guys were on the right side in one of the best college games ever played. Thank you, thank you thank you.
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ou 22pts less away from home………you discount how high ou was for tech and the fact tech was playing it’s 4th straight ranked team. we beat 1, 9 and 23. losted to 5
ut beat 1 12 and losted to us and also beat mizz…..ou losted to texas and beat 2 and who else?
your arch rival is no joke and is laying for you!!!! better hope you do not get a dose of what we got last saturday–the ut fans would love it. tech would love it because it would put us in the title game.
i do have a big problem if that happened and ut went to the ncs while they did not win their conference and losted head to head…nobody can convince me that is right.
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billy, i disagree that we could only move to 5, there will not be any 2 loss teams in the top 7. if bama gets hammered they could fall as far as we did……this tech team would beat bama, pennstate utah easy, next ut ou usc would be good games on neutral sites and florida is tough…………..lots of football left, but i really see osu beating ou, ut finally handling the ags, florida handling bama badly and damn usc and their national media machine jumping ut….florida/ usc or ut close for ncs if ou loses……….
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Devin, I don’t know how this will all play out, I just hope it doesn’t play out in ou’s favor, I’m just glad thatthere are two teams from Texas in the top 10. The best players in the nation come from Texas, just ask Stoopid, I mean Stoops, a large number of his recruits are from Texas. I am a proud Texan and am proud of what the Raiders have accomplished and look forward to more good games in the future. The best game I have seen all year was between Texas and Tech, that was a damn good game, and that my friend is what the fans want. HOOK EM HORNS……GUNS UP RAIDERS…………..ou SUCKS…………………
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