Official: Ticket scam stings about 500 fans
By Don Williams
Lubbock Avalanche-Journal
Hundreds of people got the Adrenalin rush of scoring a ticket at the last minute to Saturday’s Texas Tech-Texas game only to find out they’d been scammed.
A Tech official said Sunday that an estimated 500 people bought counterfeit tickets around campus. They were denied entry to Jones AT&T Stadium, because the phony tickets showed seat locations that had already been sold.
Texas Tech fans cheer on the Red Raiders success throughout Saturday evening's win against Texas.
Tickets are scanned at the gate for admission, where invalid bar codes revealed the fraud.
“They got robbed is what it was,’’ said Dave Welsh, Tech assistant athletic director for ticket operations. “These (counterfeiters), I think they hit the big-time bowl games and the Super Bowl and so forth. They look just like our regular season-ticket stock, but the bar codes obviously aren’t going to match. It was heartbreaking seeing all these people get ripped off.’’
About 1,600 tickets remained for Saturday’s Texas Tech-Oklahoma State game as of early Sunday afternoon.
Tech officials expect the potential for more of the same problem with a battle of top-10 teams in Lubbock for the second straight week. Tech was No. 2 in The Associated Press Top 25 and No. 3 in the USA Today coaches’ poll released Sunday, and Oklahoma State is No. 8 in both.
Welsh said many of the victims indicated they’d bought tickets in areas just off campus, especially just east of the stadium. Tech became aware there was problem about four hours before game time. Welsh said when gates opened, he went to Gate 1 and personally handled about 200 cases of counterfeit tickets.
He said $200 was the most commonly heard amount for which the phony tickets had been sold.
“Despite the historic nature of the victory,’’ Welsh said, “for us in the ticket office, it was kind of demoralizing to see people get scammed like that, because there was not a thing we could do about it. There were no other tickets to sell to people who got ripped off. It was just a bad situation.’’
The Tech-UT game, which Tech won 39-33, was sold out early in the season.
Welsh said one of those victimized was a Tech football player trying to buy a ticket for a friend.
Tech began using the bar-coding system in 2005. Had a similar scam cropped up before then, Welsh said the logistical nightmare would’ve been worse because of the potential for friction between fans.
“If you keep them out of the stadium, that helps prevent people getting the same seat in the same section and having to determine which (ticket) is good, which one is the bad,’’ Welsh said. “It’s fortunate that we actually bar-code tickets, because it does prevent this thing actually getting into the stadium.’’
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Is there any way for a scanner to be placed in a kiosk on Tech campus or something similar so that people who buy tickets can go there automatically and scan it to see if it is valid? It sure would help.
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Next time the ticket buyers should use their camera phones to take a picture of the ticket seller. Just the idea of a scammer’s picture being out there might discourage some of the thieves and might even help the police since the big operation might involve enough money for law enforcement to get involved.
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Offering a kiosk for authenticating tickets would be a great help. I purchased 2 tickets for $500 at 12:30pm on gameday and tried to find someone at the stadium to validate them, but the ticket office didn’t open until 2pm. We were not able to go back until much later.
Is there any legal recourse and how would one go about it?
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A friend got scammed “twice”. Once when he bought the
counterfiet tickets and a second time by a female ticket
attendant who took $100.00 (under the table) to let him
pass through. I think the second one hurt the most
because Tech employees are taking advantages as well.
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Any nimrod dim enough to waste his time going to a game, let alone spend more than a dime on the event, deserves to lose his wad – he’d just spend it all on beer, cigarettes and dirtbikes anyway – the thieves did these losers a favor.
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Isn’t selling tickets outside of the arena against the law? It is at every event I’ve gone to. This is the reason.
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ok well just to get this out there if you guys would stop purchasing tickets from scalpers then that would put them out of business. secondly if you did stop purchasing from them you would not be out money you would actually have a valid ticket and be able to see the entertainment event you want to see. its as simple as that. no need for a verification kiosk. no need to waste money that can be better spent. plan in advance to purchase tickets to a event you want to see and stop purchasing from those scalpers. once they see we wont buy tickets from them they will stop scalping and you then will be able to get your tickets you want. so sorry to say but if you did lose your money to a scam artist scalper then its your fault not any of the entertainment venues fault for initiating security measures to stop scalping.
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Its just a stupid football game. As this country falls into a recession, perhaps we can find better things to spend our $200 on (like food, clothing, and shelter).
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I have an IDEA. when you buy tickets off the streets, take a picture with the seller, if the seller doesn’t want, don’t buy it, it does not guarantee a legit ticket, but if you get to the gate and is not legit at least you have a picture of the counterfeiters. Simple right????
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Joe- The nice thing about this country is…we can spend our hard earned money on whatever we damn well want. You go ahead and prepare for Armageddon, I’m going to a game!
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NEVER NEVER NEVER pay that kind of cash to someone you don’t know, especially on gameday when there isn’t much time to do something about it.
Always use a credit card (NOT a debit card) so there will be a record of the transaction and you will then have recourse against the seller.
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the kiosk is amazing when the machines actually work, but then there is the representative asking for a beamer and stuff…. if they dont want to forget you maybe you shold come back and show them your passion… Go Raiderettes
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Sorry to say, but theres always gunna be a Mike or Joe or Bob that couldent get off work to get tickets. Because of that there some broken hearted kid thats gunna miss the “BIG GAME”. So what does dad do, what choice does he have? PAY or face the conquences at home. It is for this reason I support Business buying “Block out tickets” for their employee’s. Just 1 section blocked off for that piticular business. It keeps Bob at work were he should be, and free’s up tickets for you and me. And Guarentees CO tickets for those people that wanna go.
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HA HA, Texas Tech fans. You were stupid enough to get scammed, and now you are all even stupider to come out and complain about it, so everyone knows what fools you all are.
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AH AH, Tecnología de Tejas ventila. Usted fue suficiente estúpido para ser chapuceado, y ahora usted es todo aún más estúpido salir y quejarse de ello, así que todos saben lo que los engaña son.
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How many languages are Texas Tech fans fluent in, in order to display their stupidity to the masses?
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¿Cuántas idiomas son los ventiladores de la tecnología de Tejas fluidos adentro, para exhibición su estupidez a las masas?
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Combien de langues les fans de Tech de Texas sont coulants dans, affichent afin de leur stupidité aux masses ?
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Purchasing tickets from scalpers, and then complaining that you got robbed? Isn’t that kind of like buying cocaine, and then complaining to the police department that it was baby powder?
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Joe, get a life man!!!
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ROBERT: I thought being the head coach of the number three football team in the country WAS a life. Damn. I guess I better quit this nickel and dime head coaching job at Penn state and start selling some car insurance. Thanks. I don’t know what the H ELL I was thinking.
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Y’all need to get a life. Any moron who spends more than $20 for a College Football ticket deserves to get ripped of.
Like… get a life.
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No, seriously. Isn’t buying a ticket from a scalper, and then complaining that you got scammed kind of like Jesse James calling the sheriff, and complaining that someone stole his wallet?
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These kids who “got robbed” by scalpers MUST BE the grandchildren of all of those moonshine customers during prohibition that complained to Eliot Ness that the bootleg prices were too high.
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Joe Paterno..The truley sad and pathetic thing about your remark is it just show your low intelligence and lack of human compassion. No I am not a big sports fan and I was at work during the big game, but glad Tech won. Scams are everywhere not just at these games. People are getting scammed on a variety of things because we as humans tend to believe and hope for the best. Joe, maybe you should look back at your life and see where you got done wrong and wanted to make sure it did not happen to the next person. In any language you want to use it all comes down to a simple thing. “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” Everything you do in this world comes back on you tenfold, be it blessing or curse.
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Paterno, Do us all a favor and shut up. Whose to say you weren’t the one who had a hand in scamming the TT fans that couldn’t get in? I know the REAL Joe Paterno wouldn’t be as immature you are & wouldn’t be out scamming people for his own means. He’s a lot classier than you could ever think of being.
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Denise and Jerry: Ah, two more “victims.” Hey, considering that you two were already stupid enough o try to buy tickets from scalpers, I know these beautiful women and great-looking men from Nigeria that would like to find a lifetime partner. All you have to do is Western Union them $800, and they will be on a plane, and coming to see you immediately.
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DENISE: Do unto others as I would have unto me? I’ll remember that the next time that a drug dealer tries to sell me some bad cocaine. You remember that the next time you get rooked by a ticket scalper.
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Actually, I’m a marathon runner, I don’t touch drugs or alcoholic beverages. But I think you get my point, right?
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Lemmings. $200 for a sporting event? Talk about either having waaay too much money, extraordinarily poor budgeting or being a total tool for the sports cartels. Bet you these people are ones that don’t finish college because they don’t know when to stop partying/drinking/screwing and spending money on ball games that would otherwise keep them Ramen noodles in the time it takes to earn a bachelors degree. Try taking care a couple of kids, used cars, a mortgage and dental work and then see how smart it is to hand that kind of money over to some shady creep in the street for a couple of hours of pretending you share something of value in common with a bunch of folks who would just as soon walk by while you get beat up and robbed when you get outside the stadium.
Get real.
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DENISE: You’re right, what goes around comes around. I guess this is just a SMALL measure of that coming back to Texans, considering that the Lone Star state citizenry lead the nation in executions. See that? You fry one too many innocent people in the electric chair, and it comes right back in your face when you get scammed by a ticket scalper. Ah, the scales of justice always seem to balance, don’t they?
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Most of these times the fake tickets will be printed up once the game is classified as BIG, and drawing enough interest to support the feeding frenzy, the tickets are printed up a few days before the game and sold…However, I bought my tickets,3, the very first week of the season from Stubhub…who guaranteed they were good. All in the same section , same row right next to each other…when we got to the game the first two scanned in good, mine scanned in bad. Now these were bought way in advance of someone making fakes all three looked exactly the same, the same as the people we were going with who had been going for years…I politely disagreed with the ticket taker and bolted into the stadium…I think there may have been a scanner issue as well as bad tickets……….
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How terrible.
This could happen to just about anyone. I was semi-worried the tickets I bought for the Bristol night race off eBay might do the same thing since they use the bar code shit
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Joe well thank you for proving what a fool you are and that you cant read. I did not buy tickets. I had to WORK, and second well I do not watch sports anyway. So while you sit here and try to come up with these very lame and childish things to say, well I have better things to do. As for your cocaine remark, the question I have is why are you around them to begin with? They do not just walk up to someone on the street and ask if they want some. You have to be in thier “neighborhood” So please show these poeple what an cretin you are with you very pathetic choice of words. But well I have to once again get ready for work. And while I dont “claim” to be anyone special, I know my job is important and I work hard for my money. So I can feel some sympathy for these people that got taken. Joe are you so rich that $200 is chump change? I know I am not and most people in Lubbock are not either.
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To be fair, I was scammed myself once. When I was 13 years old, a man sold me the Brooklyn Bridge for five dollars. To this day, the title deed to that bridge is NOT owned by me. DAMN!
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See Joe you continue to show you are not who you claim to be. As for our execution rate. Well it just proves we wont tolerate the crimes committed. The sad thing is how you keep going on and on like someone actually wants to hear what you have to say. Do you really want to debate Texas with me? The issue here was the scam on the tickets. Come back to reality and realize what a fool you sound like.
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DENISE: Do you actually think that I am reading more than one or two sentences of what you write? And you are telling me that you are actually stupid enough to read EVERYTHING that I write? You may not have been scammed by scalpers, but you sure are making up for it in wasting your time, responding to an A$$H0LE like me.
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DENISE: Spoken like a true Texan. You won’t tolerate crimes, so you’ll kill anyone that YOU EVEN THINK commits one, even if they are not guilty. You guys want to secede and be your own country??? PLEASE DO! And GOOD RIDDANCE! Your backwards, KKK-loving state is an embarrassment to ALL Americans…even morons like myself.
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LMAO..spoken like a yankee…how sad
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Dear “Joe Paterno”
wow you are dick. i hope that whatever is screwing up your life right now to make you vent so passionately on these people is taken care of soon. your comments harbor the kind of immature hatred i would expect to witness on a preppy middle school playground. do everyone a favor and brood over your life’s shortcomings in a private manner.
sincerely,
fu joe
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Ah, look what I have accomplishment. I have enticed yet another a$$H0LE Texan (that’s redundant, isn’t it? ALL TEXANS are a$$h0les) to talk about something that is not even minutely related to the original topic. Oh yeah. Those people that were scammed out of their money when they were trying to buy their tickets from scammers. Oh, my heart bleeds for you moronic teens that were cheated out of your money. You see that? TEXANS are sympathetic to some fools getting scammed out of $200 and demand justice, yet they have NO PROBLEM with executing innocent people. Imagine that? I WILL NOT TOLERATE ticket scalpers cheating drunken teens out of their money. But if we happen to fry some innocent people? Well, that’s just the way things go down, right?
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Correct. Spoken like a true Yankee. Yankees DO NOT condone the KKK, but Texans do. Fair enough, Texan. By the way, you LOST the Civil War. Give it up already, Klan lovers.
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Acutally, my friends and i use scalpers all the time in our town. It’s not a big problem. And they do have bar code scanners. I guess though that if we were a big top-10 school it would be a lot more of an issue.
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The Great Lone Star State. Yes, PLEASE. Do us all a favor, and secede already, and become simply “Lone.” You can even continue running with the KKK, and lynching anyone you want to. Just get the hell away from the rest of The United States. 49 states plus the District of Columbia suits us just fine.
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Dear “JP”
you are a waste of your father’s seman and your mothers incessant moaning.the attitude which compels you to submit this type of trash just for your own jollies is the embodient of all that is wrong with the human race in recent generations and those to come.
sincerely,
fu joe
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Imagine that? A TEXAN, of all people saying “Do unto others.” Quoting the Bible, and yet taking lives via executions, lynchings… DENISE, if you ever get that electric jolt, and your pretty hair stands on end, you know that you will indeed be getting “what comes around.”
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And “Joe” Texas has the highest execution rate because they have fewer small crimes and the big crimes get through with quickly and the criminals meet their fate sooner. It’s because places like New York and Virginia have a long waiting list for trials for so many small crimes on top of big crimes. Our death row is longer than some other states, so they execute their inmates quicker, giving them a bad reputation for doing what they need to do. Get over yourself
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The Ku Klux Klan may have been a secret society, but the KKK quickly achieved mainstream status in Texas. Many judges, sheriffs and police chiefs who wore black robes or badges by day donned white robes and hoods at night.
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I MUST SAY THAT THIS WORLD IS CRAZY!!! SCALPERS SHOULD BE PUT IN PRISON. THIS IS A TRUE CRIME AND TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THESE STUDENTS THIS WAY IS JUST WRONG. BUT THE STUDENTS SHOULD ALREADY KNOW BETTER, THEY ARENT IN KINDERGARTEN ANYMORE. I HOPE. AS WELL AS THIS, HOW CAN THE EMPLOYEES GET AWAY WITH THIS. THESE COLLEGES ARE NOT EDUCATIONAL ANYMORE, THEY ARE NOTHING BUT FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS NOW. THEIR SHOULD BE CONSEQUENCES TO THE PEOPLE THAT SOLD THE TICKETS AND TO THE STUDENTS AS WELL, AFTER ALL, THEY WERE BREAKING THE LAW TOO. BUT I AM SURE NOTHING!!!! WILL HAPPEN, BECAUSE THEN, THE PARENTS OF THOSE STUDENTS WOULD PROBABLY TAKE THEIR KIDS OUT OF THE SCHOOLS AND THEN THE COLLEGE WOULD LOSE ALL THAT MONEY!!! GOD FORBID A COLLEGE LOSE MONEY OVER A FOOTBALL GAME, WHERE THE NUMBER ONE FANS WERE TOTALLY RIPPED OFF. SORRY STUDENTS, NEXT TIME U SHOULD CALL THE RIGHT PEOPLE AND U SHOULD MAKE MORE ADULT DECISIONS AND NOT TRY AND SKIMP BECAUSE YOU DONT WORK AND SOMEONE ELSE IS BUYING YOUR TICKETS FOR YOU ANYWAYS/.
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Joe, being a “true Texan” as you put it, well the civil war…the south lost Joe, ask any southern and they will tell you Texas is not a southern state..imagine that. As for the KKK and all that..well now I have a news flash for you Joe. Im not white. More fool you.
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You get in bed with snakes, and you complain that you got bit. You buy a ticket from a scalper, and then you are up in arms because you got ripped off. Well, boo hoo. There are people that buy their cars at chop shops, and then find out that the transmission is faulty. Complaining that you got ripped off by doing business underhanded is about as stupid as……….. well, I can’t think of anything that stupid. there is nothing to compare it to.
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Good DENISE: Then you’ll have something to look forward to when the homeboys chain you to the back of their pickup trucks. I’ve heard of ignorant, racist whites defending Texas. But ignorant BLACKS defending their “beloved” state, the KKK??? If you live long enough, you see EVERYTHING!!! The KKK and Texas go together like love and marriage… on a much more brutal scale, of course.
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lmao Joe you jump to conclusions once again. I never said that I was black, just that I am not white. tell me something Joe did you ride the short bus to school??
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Oh, by the way, here is the “official handbook” of The KKK in Texas.
Go To WWW, then tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/KK/vek2_print.html
Please, read ALL of the fine print. you wouldn’t want to get SCAMMED, would you?
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DENISE: Honey, as long as you are NOT WHITE, the homeboys will chain to the back of their pickup, and drag your dark-skinned a$$ to your death. What part of White Supremacy do you NOT understand? Is the Klan now accepting Latins, Pacific Islanders, Jews, etc as new members?
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H ELL, EVEN IF YOU ARE WHITE, The Texas Klan will drag you to your death (and enjoying doing so, in their sick, demented minds). White Jews, White Catholics, they’re all fair game to the Klan.
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Wow i wanted to read about this scamming at a football game and instead I got joe prego over here bored out of his mind with no real social life trying to compensate on an online forum. HAHAHAHA wow Theres 15 minutes of my life I wont get back.
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In case you all think that the KKK in Texas is no longer representative of your great (backwards) state, dig into this. The Knights of the White Camellia, a Texas Klan group led by Charles Lee, along with the Texas chapter of Thom Robb’s Knights of the KKK, has been linked to a number of incidents of racial intimidation and harassment in Vidor, Texas. These incidents, which occurred in 1992 and 1993, involved efforts to prevent the desegregation of an all-white Federally assisted housing project in Vidor, Texas…….. 1993. Gee, that’s ancient.
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CLIFF: If you are not white, and you run into the KKK in Texas on a summer evening, you’ll lose a lot more than 15 minutes of your life.
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Oh yeah, those kids that got scammed. Terrible. There is no honesty in this world when these crooked scalpers make a bad name for the honest, well-to-do, self-respected scalpers.
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last post – haha thats ok i can see you wasted at least an hour of yours and all who are reading this – Joe is like some 15 maybe 16 year old kid trying to have fun on the internet, hes not a coach of anything and you should be like me and leave this post so he can play with himself because im sure hes used to it since he has no friends – bye
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The biggest problem? For every 10 honest ticket vendors (not scalpers) there is one employee that will skim tickets off the top and sell them to their scalper buddies. This employee makes more money working with scalpers than they will working the ticket booth. As for those that say, “Don’t buy from the scalpers and they will go away”, don’t bet on it. Rarely does a scalper go home with tickets in his pocket. If people won’t pay the current price, wait until closer to event time — the price will drop and the scalper will still make a profit. There is always buyer.
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thats what i thought enjoy your evening “Jo paterno” you lying ass fruitcake
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Cliff. I’m 13. Good guess, though. Close with 15 or 16
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My age has nothing to do with The KKK and their “relationship” with the state of Texas.
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BOB: Yes, this is always a buyer. That is the point. Scalpers will never go away, because you ALWAYS have people that are dumb enough to buy tickets from them. But you can control YOUR OWN behavior, and not be dumb enough to deal with them (the scalpers). If you never buy tickets from scalpers, then you can enjoy reading about the chumps who did.
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JP, do us all a favor and cut your fingers off.
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wow forum troll FTL!
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Sorry y’all, but I’m with Joe: the people that got scammed asked for it. Accept responsibility.
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I mean about the tickets… I’m still not sure how the KKK came into the conversation.
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Oh, and I just gotta send this to Denise: Denise, you have horrible spelling and grammar habits.
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Joe
KKK is in all states. And believe it or not, KKK was more popular in the north than the south at one point in history. Most of the southerns cannot stand KKK and will have nothing to do with them. Please quit spreading your hate on this board and insulting the fine people of Texas.
If you feel that your state is so great, please let us know where you are from. We may want to move there. Note the sarcasm. If you do not know what sarcasm is, please look it up at dictionary.com.
I feel for the folks who got scam. I know when I attend games, I only get them from people I know and trust. That should be the rule of thumb.
Joe from SC
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This fake JP guy sux! How much time is he going to waste acting stupid on here? It’s not even a chat. What a shame and a waste of perfectly viable human organs that could go to someone more worthy. Like a serial killer.
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I do not understand the hatred, s#it Joe Paterno, you picked a really good name by the way, scamming tickets didnt just happen in lubbock this past weekend it happenes at every big sports event. And to clear things up , dont say that the students of universities need to grow up and make grown up decisions. Texas and Texas Tech fans of all ages were scammed this past weekend. For all you people who hate sports, just to remind you, sports in america have united us as a country in the past and will in the future, O and dont hate texas to much JP, without Texas, your ass would probably be fighting in Iraq, instead of all the brave Volunteers from Texas doing it for you.
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Hey “JOE”… show some class and change your screen name.
Joe Pa is a legendary coach, and it belittles his name for you to be acting like an ass on here while using it.
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Y’all are missing the point, which is that those folks that lost their money on counterfeit tickets should quit crying and accept responsibility for their actions. They knew the risk purchasing tickets from an outside source at the last minute, and if they didn’t then now they know….
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Joe Pa left.. guess he had to go hang out with the Ommish, Minninites, or maybe he is just beating up on a Quaker.. whatever you do at night in that beat up, bad economy, bad weather, rust belt state of Pennsylvania
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Anyone who is not a football fan nor have a stake in Texas Tech, UT or ticket scalping should be the better person and quit being a scumbag loser, just DON’T POST (seek psychiatric help or call your mommy) , if it isn’t relevant to the thread.
Camera phone pics of the “scalpers” would definitely nail these scumbags, nail one of these prison bound vermin from a security cam and you will find the nest.
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wow yo all you fools are really arguing on the internet over some bullshit. you people need to do something with yall’s life yo this is ridiculous. These dumb ass people got ripped off quit bitching about it and read something else man FUCK yo!!!!!!!!!!
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yankee joe is pissed cause the yankees suck now and his momma stopped giving him sex.
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Joe- you are the man! Keep up the good work.! Go Penn State!
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How about everyone on this thread shut the hell up unless you have something nice to say?
Childish mother fuckers
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ya know…i probably did waste 15 minutes of my life, reading this whole thread, but hey, it was entertaining,
so for a quick touch on the topics.
fuck the kkk.
i dont care who from texas is in iraq, if i wanted to be there i would.
yes texas kills innocent people everyday, its called justice, now we see why the government is bullshit. texas just does it more.
i dont know where the fuck the drugs got into this.
if joe is 13, its pretty sad hes standing toe to toe with these grown adults….maybe he has a point about texans…but joe you shouldnt mess with them, its not nice to pick on retards.
anywayz, as far as the ticket scalping goes. (THE ACTUAL FUCKING TOPIC)
simply put, its there, it always will be, taking a picture and putting someone in jail for it, isnt gonna stop people, it might cut back a bit, but lets face it, drugs, murder, rape etc are illegal, but how many courtrooms do you see empty every weekday morning???? exactly.
as far as the teens getting ripped off
apparently they were ripped off by the teachers who were supposed to be educating them.
commonsense tells you thats a bad idea.
and $200 dollars a ticket?
who the fuck comes up with prices for shit, thats as bullshit as paying like $12.00 for a tank of gas.
FOOT BALL IS A FUCKING SPORT
it is for fun, it shouldnt be a way for fucking people to basically extort money for fucking everyone (AND DONT GIVE ME THAT ITS NOT BULLSHIT, IT IS, ALONG WITH EVERY OTHER THING IN THIS COUNTRY THAT WAS ONCE FUN)
Now stop wasting time trying to get rid of the problem, as i said, make it illegal, arresting a few people wont stop it.
and if its that big of a deal to you,
why dont you go out, and start campaigning around college (and high school and whatever other) campuses informing people of the dangers of buying tickets like such, since thats the only way your going to have any actual impact on this annoyance of a problem.
now before any runs there mouth, im not here to argue, im making my point, im not 13, i do have a job, and i know very much of what i speak. so please, dont bother trash talking me, however i will say its hilarious that you let joe lead your lives around for so long.
and one last note, whoever the guy was that said everyone was being too childish and ended his post with “Childish Mother Fuckers”…..your a moron…go play in traffic.
–ANTI
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lame thread…
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ANTI is right, Joe owned all you guys even though the topics that he dominated had no relivance to this article.
i once was scammed buy a scalper, i bought some tickets for a cubs/cards game in stl and when the tickets got scanned they were real but someone had already got into the stadium and then passed them back through the fence to the scalper. So the next day i went to the same scalper, i knew who he was but he had no idea who i was, i asked to see the tickets and when he handed my the 4 tickets i took off with them towards the gate…got into the game, got drunk and had a hell of a time. My theory is: what is the scalper going to do: A) shoot you, but not in the middle of thousands of people. B) chase you and get the tickets back, but if i yell at the top of my lungs that this dude is trying to mug me in front of those thousands of people…he will either stop of get arrested for something……who is the cop going to beleive and innocent fan trying to watch a ball game or a guy on the street trying to make a living by scamming the innocent fan. C) Not realize i was gone until it was to late, seriously i ran about 12 steps into a crowd and turned around to see if i was being chased and dude didnt realize i had ripped him off until it was to late.
P.S. the tickets i got scammed on were 10 dollar standing room only tickets that i paid 30 for. bought 4 tickets for $120. the next day the tickets i took from him were club seats( free beer and food) face value of 114, 4 tickets worth $456.
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Here’s the deal. if you buy tickets from someone that isnt licenced to sell tickets, you run the risk of buying duped tickets. it doesnt matter if you are aware of that or not; thats the case. you cant expect to drive a vehicle for 50 years and NOT get into an accident.
is it your fault the tickets were duped? no. However, you still bought duped tickets. Whenever you buy from a scalper, you pay a lot more and have a HUGE chance at getting duped. I’m not going to say that those people deserved it, but i will say that they walked into that situation of their own decision.
If everyone was honest, we wouldnt have scalpers in the first place; but alas, everyone isnt honest. It is most unfortunate that trusting people have to find that out the hard way.
i only have one very legitimate question: “Why would you give someone you didnt know 200$ USD for a ticket to a sporting event that will be yesterday’s news tomorrow while not knowing if said ticket was even valid in the first place?
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Hey, you either purchase a ticket from a legit place or this is part of the risks you take baby!
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exactly, harley.
this isnt a safe world, so plan accordingly in your decision-making process.
scalpers have no interest in being your friends.
as for the picture phone idea:
okay, so now you have a face. do you have a name? a location? an address? a phone number? no. a picture may say a thousand words, but it doesnt say any of those.
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id find the guy who sold me the ticket,get my monet back or beat his face in,bad
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The people who bought the duped tickets need to take responsibility for their actions. you can’t say, “Oh that bad man/woman sold me this bunk ticket!”
everyone knows NOT to buy a ticket from a scalper. you made the decision to give an unknown person your money, live with it.
if you wouldn’t have given him your money, you wouldnt be in this situation. Yes, be mad; but learn from your mistakes.
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the kiosk is amazing when the machines actually work, but then there is the representative asking for a beamer and stuff…. if they dont want to forget you maybe you shold come back and show them your passion… Go Raiderettes
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I AM NOT A CROOK!!!! I don’t really watch football, I like drag racing, but this was the most fun I’ve had reading this sh!t since the hogs ate my brother! I am neutral on the scalping issue, thats the chance you take dealing with strangers. But if I ever caught the person who stuck it to me….they would never be found in our louisiana bayous!
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Whoa! whoa! whoa! Scalpers don’t need to be put in prison. In fact, it’s the very idea of it being illegal that invites criminals to do the job, because they’re the only people willing to involve themselves in more illegal activity. This is what has created the whole scam! The people who counterfeit come from cities where ticket selling has been made illegal. It’s the perfect way to corner the market, because there will always be a demand, and if you take away honest, and law abiding businessmen, you eliminate competition for criminals thaqt are capable of other illegal things like counterfeiting!! The market becomes their oyster to handle any way they see fit. This is why the constitution is so important, and mindsets like those who are quick to suggest punishment don’t realize they’ve bought themselves a full time job. So unless you yourself are ready to go out and enforce the punishment of all criminal activity, you should look at how it became this way. Criminals sell tickets, because it was made a crime. Had it never been made a crime then honest brokers would replace and seek out justice for those responsible for this activity. Why do you think Al Capone was so successful? Because alcohol was made illegal!! It cornered the market for only someone who was willing to engage in crime, which in turn invites other illegal activity!! So then came guns, and then murder!! I’m glad many of you are not judges.. I would be highly concerned for us all. I know an awesome ticket guy who owns his own ticket company and has always put accountability first so that everybody can be at ease with their entertainment experience. He is not a crook. He barely makes enough money, and has a child he works hard for to give him a future. You can find him online for all concerts and sports @ http://www.ventureco-op.com (for anthing in the country. You should all consider one more thing. When buying a ticket from someone on the street, always look for one familiar or redeeming characteristic, in his attitude or expression that you can identify with someone you’ve trusted before with money, and you’ll find that your luck will change in your purchasing experiences. In other words, trust, but cut the cards people. But please remember, everytime you make something illegal, you’ve given the mob new opportunity to take advantage..
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It seems like this is starting to happen in a lot of places. This weekend 4 friends and i drove 7 hours from Tuscaloosa to Baton Rouge to see Alabama play LSU. After searching for a bit for 5 tickets together we found someone who sold to us 5 tickets at $135 each. $675 later we are at the gates getting rejected by the ushers and the ticket office tells us there is nothing they can do. I saw a friend a bit later and he showed me his stub, the 2 tickets were exactly alike it seemed. We searched for 15 minutes or so and didn’t see one difference. It’s such a shame that people can do that and get away with it so easy. Oh well, lesson learned I guess. At least we came away with a win. Roll Tide!
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in regards to ronnie pauls comments,
ok no offense, but thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard.
CRIMINALS DONT DO SOMETHING BECAUSE ITS MADE ILLEGAL
CRIMINALS DO SOMETHING WRONG WHICH IS WHY IT IS MADE ILLEGAL.
they didnt make ticket scalping illegal to hurt innocent people selling real tickets.
THEY MADE IT ILLEGAL CAUSE CRIMINALS WERE SELLING FAKE TICKETS FOR QUICK CASH.
not to seem like a dick, but obviously your not the smartest crayon in the box, if you even made it to the box.
just cause they make murder illegal doesnt drive someone to go kill someone,
no they made murder illegal cause someone went and killed someone over something stupid.
drugs arnt illegal for shits and giggles either genius,
they made drugs illegal cause they kill people.
that didnt make criminals say, “hey thats illegal, dude lets do it”
no, they were selling and using drugs before it was illegal and it was killing many people know had no clue they could die from doing the drugs, which is why it is now illegal.
speeding is illegal,
do you think they made that illegal for fun?
do you think people say hey, lets speed just cause its illegal???
NO YOU MORON.
they made speeding illegal because people were driving extremly fast, and causeing accidents and killing people.
and people speed cause they either wanna get somewhere faster or have a fun time going really fast which is extremly dangerous.
THEY DONT DO IT CAUSE ITS ILLEGAL GENIUS!!!
al capone didnt start handling alcohol JUST because it was illegal.
it becoming illegal made it a milestone of quick cash for him.
if it was LEGAL and still wouldve made him easy quick cash.
GUESS WHAT!!!! HE STILL WOULDVE HANDLED IT!!!!
altogether there might be 1000 criminals IN THE WORLD, mostly consisiting of teenagers or dumbasses, who actually go out and commit crimes JUST because its illegal,
now when you look at the millions of criminals out there,
statistically they damn sure didnt break the law just to be breaking the law.
ill be checking this page for the next week or so,
so if youd like to dispute anything i said, feel free.
and like i said not trying to be offensive and shit,
but thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard and i openly state my mind.
–ANTI
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oh yea and one more note ronnie,
it doesnt matter what the person you buy the tickets from looks like.
even an innocent old lady could be ripping you off
IVE SEEN IT.
DONT TRUST ANYONE WITH YOUR MONEY UNLESS THEY
ARE LICENSED IN THAT STATE TO SELL TICKETS.
–ANTI
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